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12-06-2015, 12:30 PM | #91 | |
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guess he just got a second kit |
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12-06-2015, 02:00 PM | #92 | |||
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Ranking Zeitgeist: Tier 1: That's the Way (My Love Is), Tarantula, Stellar Tier 2: Doomsday Clock, Bleeding the Orchid, United States, Death From Above, Bring the Light, Ma Belle Tier 3: 7 Shades of Black, (Come On) Let's Go!, Neverlost Tier 4: Starz, For God and Country, Pomp and Circumstances Everything except Tier 4 is listenable to me, but really only Tier 1 is worth listening to. Tier 2 is close. So many wrong choices in the studio... Last edited by DemonUnicorns : 12-06-2015 at 02:06 PM. |
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12-06-2015, 02:06 PM | #93 | |
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I do remember reading he urged billy to put Ruby on MCIS Last edited by Ram27 : 12-06-2015 at 02:16 PM. |
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12-06-2015, 02:07 PM | #94 |
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12-07-2015, 04:36 AM | #95 | |
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probably Jimmy had very little to do with anything other than just playing the drums, and even then, billy has said he would come to him with ideas and explain them and then Jimmy would play what he thought Billy wanted. But his prowess behind the kit is staggering. The relationship between his drums and Billy's guitar/voice was the essence of SP |
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12-07-2015, 04:46 AM | #96 | |
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Butch Vig (2012): "He [Jimmy Chamberlin] and Billy Corgan really have a special dynamic...how they play. It's very hypnotic and I think that was the secret to the Pumpkins sound...it had this kind of sexy swagger in a way...very hypnotic...and...the only way I can describe it is they had this push pull thing and they were locked into each other..." |
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12-07-2015, 12:30 PM | #97 |
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Yeah guitar/production/arrangements would be where D'arcy/James come in. And yes, of course Zeigeist would have been awful w/o Jimmy, there is no doubt.
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12-07-2015, 12:33 PM | #98 |
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Let's hope that D4N never gets released. JC or not, it will be cringe-worthy. There will be no 'redeeming' album. No return to form. It's over. When the best you can do is "my love is strange" then the party is over. Thanks for the good times, now give us the Machina reissue so we can stop paying attention.
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12-07-2015, 12:56 PM | #99 |
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give us the D4N so we can stop paying attention.
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12-07-2015, 01:02 PM | #100 |
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Bully touted D4N as sounding completely different than anything he's done before. I'd like to hear it.
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12-07-2015, 03:06 PM | #101 |
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12-07-2015, 06:00 PM | #102 |
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12-07-2015, 06:07 PM | #103 |
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a different kind of tea
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12-07-2015, 06:11 PM | #104 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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god is EMTEA just like me
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12-07-2015, 06:56 PM | #105 | |
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Neverlost Tier1 |
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12-07-2015, 07:07 PM | #106 |
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12-07-2015, 07:21 PM | #107 |
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shut the fuck up Run2Me
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12-07-2015, 10:15 PM | #108 |
Minion of Satan
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Get pegged AT&T
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12-08-2015, 12:51 AM | #109 |
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Regardless, I don't think Billy really hyped MTAE up as having a completely different sound. D4N he has...
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12-08-2015, 01:30 AM | #110 |
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My guess is that D4N is being held up by the label. Either they are holding onto it b/c they know a back-to-back album release will be bad for sales (Corgan fatigue), or b/c they are not interested. The whole back-to-back thing was thought up before MTAE bombed.
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12-08-2015, 11:55 AM | #111 |
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It's no longer called Day for Night...
fast-forward to @ 0:45 (edit) but just now realized most of you probably already knew that. oh well, interesting video either way Last edited by jparker800 : 12-08-2015 at 12:13 PM. |
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12-08-2015, 12:15 PM | #112 |
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Why does he keep worrying about hits?
goddammit the hits are the most forgettable part of the SP catalog i mean I understand trying to write a couple singles per album but don't produce every fucking song like it's meant to be topping the charts in 2015. you're not justin beiber motherfucker. rock isn't mainstream cool anymore but you're in a rock band so write good rock music and stop trying to placate the kids or people going to clubs or whatever _________ so the new album is gonna suck. the stuff he said was going to be dark, heavy, and different is what he said thought sucked when he listened back. so he locked himself in isolation and rewrote the album. this is gonna suck. and it won't even have Jimmy, probably. the guy writing that album in seclusion isn't this guy anymore. it's this guy Hell even if it had Jimmy he'd probably just be playing fucking 8 notes per song accenting the synths or whatever Last edited by Ram27 : 12-08-2015 at 12:23 PM. |
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12-08-2015, 12:22 PM | #113 |
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... having listened to this interview and plenty others, hearing BC constantly refer to The Smashing Pumpkins as a "franchise", or a "business", or a "product" kinda irks me.
Why go so overboard in trying to minimize something that is art, something personal and intimate, sometimes transcendent, by constantly referring to it as and reducing it to a consumable product? I wonder if constantly viewing his music from this disconnected business perspective is a sort of defense mechanism to protect him from all the negativity toward his art. ...or maybe his art isn't even personal anymore... and it truly is just a product. So then, is his love actually strange or not? Or does he think playing a character who is obsessed with declaring his love is strange every other song is a solid business decision? Last edited by jparker800 : 12-08-2015 at 12:37 PM. |
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12-08-2015, 01:00 PM | #114 |
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integrity
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12-09-2015, 03:21 AM | #115 | |
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Even the better songs on that album are pretty fucking weak, and "Drum + Fife" was saved by Tommy Lee's input/rewriting so idk where Billy gets off on thinking the album is so strong. |
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12-09-2015, 10:35 AM | #116 | |
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The funniest part about this video is that the people there paid $300 to listen to this fucker whine about politics/clickbait/the music industry. |
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12-09-2015, 11:45 AM | #117 | |
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12-09-2015, 12:42 PM | #118 |
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Surprisingly, this is actually true. Lyrics are the biggest flaw on MTAE, and they completely ruin EVERY song. Underneath Billy's shit lyrics are a few good tunes. AH sounds very Zwanish except for the lyrics being total shit instead of just shit.
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12-09-2015, 12:51 PM | #119 | |
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The guy's pushing 50, claims that he's a musical genius, and yet is consciously releasing songs with horrible lyrics such as "Never been kissed by a girl like you/All I wanna, I wanna do/Love me baby, love me true" and "I don't mind what you're running/Cause you and me we're just something/Don't just hang what you're running".... and yes, he rhymes the word "running" with the word "running" there. True genius. As I've grown as an individual I've realized that artists like Billy haven't grown (either as a person or an artist) and I find that irritating and fucking disturbing for some reason. He's so content with releasing mediocre work (or work by his admission is just 'ok') and then he wonders why people don't think he's great and aren't worshiping him unconditionally. The fact that he has cognitive dissonance with that is fucking amazing. |
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12-09-2015, 01:06 PM | #120 |
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I THINK THIS PROVES THAT DENNIS FLEMION WAS BILLY'S GHOST WRITER!
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