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09-27-2021, 04:20 PM | #1 |
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R Kelly being a rapist child molester in prison for 10 to life
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09-27-2021, 04:29 PM | #2 |
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Trapped in the Cell: Chapters 10-Life
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09-27-2021, 04:44 PM | #3 |
Shut the fuck up!
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Jim has been writing about this for 20 years. I've heard him say that this went on for nearly 30 years because Society views women of color as worthless and not deserving of justice.
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09-27-2021, 09:26 PM | #4 |
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he's being a rapist and child molester in prison?
will nothing stop him? |
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09-28-2021, 04:47 AM | #5 | ||
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Remember when Derogatis wrote a negative review about SP in the 90s, and Corgan faxed him that poem? Just found it again: Quote:
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09-28-2021, 04:48 AM | #6 |
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Also, are there any celebs left who aren't mega rapists or abusers? I think Jeff "Whammy Bar" Shredder may be the only one left
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09-28-2021, 01:06 PM | #7 | |
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I was at a live interview about 10 years ago when Greg Kot interviewed Corgan, and he mentions Jim DeRogatis's review.... He's still angry about it. And the blathering from bill about how "bands are overrated" and "they're not what the public thinks they" are. John Bonham "didn't write Stariway to Heaven!". "In 1990... it said in the contract that THEY DIDN'T MATTER!" He says that right after saying that the record companies don't care about "the music" Just found it again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs_ccjUDNXQ Last edited by MyOneAndOnly : 09-28-2021 at 01:46 PM. |
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09-28-2021, 01:27 PM | #8 |
Shut the fuck up!
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"I'm real..I'm a real person" - Billy Corgan
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09-28-2021, 01:32 PM | #9 |
Shut the fuck up!
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"My best friend in the world, Kerry Brown..."
Who bill hasn't spoken to in 9 years |
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09-28-2021, 01:36 PM | #10 |
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"Billy Corgan was a character" - Willis Patrice
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09-28-2021, 01:37 PM | #11 |
Minion of Satan
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"Willis Patrice ate my sandwich" - Bruce Willis
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09-28-2021, 05:07 PM | #12 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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09-28-2021, 09:42 PM | #13 |
Braindead
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Billy's rhetoric has always been largely incomprehensible
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09-29-2021, 01:55 PM | #14 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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ur dad's rectum has always been largely impenetrable
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09-29-2021, 02:55 PM | #15 |
THIS IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!
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on the topic of prison terms for convicted sexual predators, is there a cliff's notes-like, fact-based explainer that someone can point me to of why bill "guilty as fuck" cosby was released from prison?
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09-29-2021, 02:58 PM | #16 |
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He had a verbal agreement that if he testified in a civil trial against him it couldn't be used against him in criminal court. The DA agreed to this because he didn't think there was enough evidence to win in criminal court and at least the victims could get something from the ordeal this way. He could have refused to testify otherwise, although in civil court (unlike criminal) juries can use refusal to testify to assess guilt, so he maybe would have been found responsible anyway.
The DA that made that deal left and the new one decided to go back on the promise. On appeal they ruled that he shouldn't have been able to be charged and dismissed it in a way where he can't be charged for the same charges again. When he was convicted his charges were almost at the statute of limitations and it's unlikely there are recent enough charges to file. |
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09-29-2021, 03:10 PM | #17 |
THIS IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!
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so the court ruled that the replacement DA should have honored the deal the original DA made with him, and because that didn't happen, they overturned the conviction basically?
holy crap do we think his legal team are master strategists, and they had him testify a civil trial on the assumption it'd be too juicy for a future DA, who would be unlikely to honor the deal in light of that testimony, etc.? or do we think it's just a whacky combination of circumstances in a chaotic universe that randomly resulted in this? either way, it seems totally bonkers and i feel like it should have been a much larger part of the national conversation |
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09-29-2021, 05:50 PM | #18 |
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I've never been clear on why you're allowed to make deals within the justice system (although I've also never actually looked into it)
Like you intentionally murdered someone and the prosecution is like, "We'll let you plead down to second-degree manslaughter and three years instead of 20" -- like as long as we can actually put you behind bars for something, for some amount of time, it doesn't really matter what it is or for how long Or Epstein's deal to plead guilty locally to soliciting an underage prostitute in Florida in exchange for never ever being prosecuted federally for what he actually did -- like, we all know a lot of money changed hands, but I've never heard the Florida DAs offer any kind of, like, legitimate-sounding justification I'm conflicted about prison abolition but it's obvious to everyone that the current system is unfixably fucked for many, many more reasons than this plea deal bullshit |
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09-29-2021, 07:48 PM | #19 |
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You know who else was a horrible fuckin molester released over a technicality, and also possessed an unreasonable passion for ugly sweaters? Freddy Kruger.
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09-29-2021, 08:54 PM | #20 |
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09-29-2021, 08:55 PM | #21 |
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lol
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09-29-2021, 11:22 PM | #22 | |
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09-29-2021, 11:25 PM | #23 | |
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One is to save money. Some huge trials can cost a lot of money, not to mention when people plea they generally give up their right to appeal. Another is when it's unclear that a conviction could be achieved otherwise. Another is to spare the victims the need to testify and relive the trauma. Another is to get information on other crimes there would otherwise not be proof for. A serial killer admits to other murders, for examples one where bodies have never been found, to give closure to the families, etc. Lots of times it's a combination of things. A youthful offender with mental issues (but not legal incompetence) shoots someone who they thought was threatening them but there's video that shows they overreacted. So we show leniency to them by giving them involuntary manslaughter, save a boatload by avoiding a trial, and spare the victim's family from a having to watch the video of the murder in court. And the big D Democratic DA gets to show they are sensitive to mental issues w/r/t crime. I'm not trying to justify just trying to answer the question. |
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09-29-2021, 11:29 PM | #24 |
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But generally it is to save money, which is a terrible reason.
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09-29-2021, 11:30 PM | #25 | |
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09-30-2021, 12:02 PM | #26 |
Janis Jopleybird
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09-30-2021, 12:28 PM | #27 | |
Janis Jopleybird
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This is why Fat Albert and A Nightmare on Elm Street: The Series are often packaged together in box sets |
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09-30-2021, 02:37 PM | #28 |
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