does anyone else not give a shit about new releases?

[Mals Marola]

the mid-00s was when Corgan started reading shit people said about him on the internet aka the shelving of Chicago Kid aka beginning of the end (of the beginning)

[redbreegull]

it is amazing how he lost so much gentleness and nuance in his voice between those videos and Zeitgeist just 3-4 years later

[Alice]

Yeah I remember seeing these songs performed and thinking there were great things coming

[Alice]

Forgot about the WOO's in El-A-Noy

[Alice]

Man I miss Chicago

[Mals Marola]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

it is amazing how he lost so much gentleness and nuance in his voice between those videos and Zeitgeist just 3-4 years later

i'd say even from just those early Zwan songs (like the "bluegrass" one posted earlier) to Mary Star

[Alice]

Here's the audio of the rest of that show:

https://archive.org/details/bc2004-04-19.flac16

[Mals Marola]

[coolstorybro]

He's not releasing any of that stuff he's talking about. He's just talking shit.

[NovaFritz]

all Chicago songs is is bill fingering diminished and augmented chords while murmur-singing

[sjpaterra]

Originally Posted by NovaFritz

all Chicago songs is is bill fingering diminished and augmented chords while murmur-singing

i'll need a solid example if i'm going to believe this half-baked analysis... because i've never even bothered to find recordings of the shitcago kid project

[NovaFritz]

Originally Posted by sjpaterra

i'll need a solid example if i'm going to believe this half-baked analysis... because i've never even bothered to find recordings of the shitcago kid project

I refuse to stand by my half baked assertion. But this thread has videos. He has played a number of these songs live. Seems to me that he just adds a little bit of chord complexity while droning and whining on. My memory at the time was that he was really concentrating hard on his sophisticated picking, which was why he raged against the cougher.

[redbreegull]

His picking is better on Chicago Songs than on anything else he's ever done.

A bunch of really good songs btw, I would highly recommend checking them out if it's been awhile

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

He has shelved shit tons of songs over the years which have sounded great live. Have you ever even listened to Zwan?

A lot of that Zwan stuff is incredibly overrated. There is a couple of unreleased songs that sounded kinda cool live, but we all know Corgan likely butchered them in the studio anyhow.

[Cal Chuchesta]

I'm quite a big fan of the songs Yeah! and Baby Let's Rock!

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

A lot of that Zwan stuff is incredibly overrated. There is a couple of unreleased songs that sounded kinda cool live, but we all know Corgan likely butchered them in the studio anyhow.

You know what's not overrated? Your opinions, cause everyone knows they suck

[Zer0 Hour]

Originally Posted by Cal Chuchesta

I'm quite a big fan of the songs Yeah! and Baby Let's Rock!

Same here. Yeah! (despite being perhaps the most poorly titled song in Billy’s entire song catalogue) has an amazing groove and just makes me feel all kindsa happy. MSOTS is really good album overall; only songs I don’t like are Endless Summer and Of a Broken Heart.

[run2pee]

Yeah! is like happy bill with a dash of summerwistful bill, and you’re right, the groove is shakin my mind was achin and we were makin, etc.

[reprise85]

i like endless summer in and of itself, but i also love how it turns the endless/awesome summer theme on its head, like when will this fucking summer ever end

[redbreegull]

EVERYBODTY DIES!!! IN AND ENDLESSS SUMMERRE!!

[redbreegull]

Endless Summer
Autumn Nocturne
Winterlong
????

[redbreegull]

The Rite Of Spring

I have literally never ever heard of this song

[reprise85]

haha

[reprise85]

it is ok, it has some good melodies going on under a ton of words and uninspired strumming. old bill might have made something out of it

[New Art Rioter]

I quite like that one, it's a pleasant acoustic number

[redbreegull]

Hey fuzzy you cowardly little shit, maybe you shouldn't leave me rep as someone who is such a homophobic snowflake dickcheese that you had to turn your fucking rep off because you couldn't deal with receiving it from me.

[fuzzyroes]

I respect the moderators at this fine community and I WILL NOT begin to derail this thread due to your childishness. If you have a bone to pick with me, I'd encourage you to take advantage of the Netphoria direct messaging service to address me there.

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

I respect the moderators at this fine community and I WILL NOT begin to derail this thread due to your childishness. If you have a bone to pick with me, I'd encourage you to take advantage of the Netphoria direct messaging service to address me there.

where the fuck is your rap you cowardly snowflake trump loving man toddler?

I made my original comment cause I am pretty sure you recently said you had never even listened to the unreleased Zwan stuff. just another thing you know nothing about but feel driven to have an opinion on

[fuzzyroes]

PavementTune personally addressed me and told me that I would not be allowed to post the rap here, so I decided not to bother. I've got a library of drum loops so it wouldn't have taken me long.

Regarding Zwan, I never said anything of the sort. I've listened to all of the unreleased Zwan stuff long ago. I'm not saying there isn't some potential, but it's not this trove of gold like some fans make it out to be... And as was mentioned, Corgan likely would have butchered the material in the studio anyhow.

[redbreegull]

remember how Jeff was going to ruin the reunion tour because it's impossible to make 3 guitars sound ok on stage at once?

that was a funny one too