KNIGHTS OF MALTA = Third single of "Shiny And So Bright Vol. 1" - Page 7

Corgan's Bluff · 11-07-2018, 07:51 PM

The flying strings of the seventies:

Modern90's · 11-07-2018, 08:46 PM

I cant stand the wooo-wooo-wooo.

overall i think its ok at best , doesnt sound like a other SP stuff, but im fine with differen

lemonscure · 11-07-2018, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

lemonscure let's do push ups together. i want to get ripped like you.

But You are!

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Originally Posted by Mals Marola

this is the second verve-related reference i've heard regarding this song

don't really get it

That's okay, dude.

Funbags · 11-07-2018, 08:51 PM

Holy fuck Rick Rubin ruined this song.

I can see what they're going for, but ugh

Mals Marola · 11-07-2018, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by lemonscure

But You are!

That's okay, dude.

really? that's it, not gonna elaborate on why you made such a post?

Typical...

FoolofaTook · 11-07-2018, 09:14 PM

yeah i know cos i'm most def not ripped

enthusaroo · 11-07-2018, 09:14 PM

I think this song sounds like a total mess.

like billy is trying so hard to copy some generic "meant to be inspirational" pop song,

but it falls short on every level.

lemonscure · 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mals Marola

really? that's it, not gonna elaborate on why you made such a post?

Typical...

What can I say, I'm a typical guy. Either way, I'm watching Survivor now. Bye.

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Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

yeah i know cos i'm most def not ripped

The fatso in Your avatar certainly isn't.

Disco King · 11-07-2018, 09:21 PM

Even though I can't say I'm a fan of this song, I still appreciate Corgan stuff that tries to explore new territory and push past the boundaries of accepted Pumpkins canon (even if it doesn't do it very well) more than I do the shit that just tries to pump from the well of popular past Pumpkins hits while sounding entirely phoned in and imaginationless.

For that reason alone, this song is much better than "Solara," but I still prefer "Silvery Sometimes."

The idea of having an electronic-gospel-choir-prog-rock Pumpkins song would have been really awesome were this a better song.

Disco King · 11-07-2018, 09:23 PM

This band is in a dark place when my greatest praise of a song is "at least there was an attempt."

Disco King · 11-07-2018, 09:27 PM

Also, why the fuck did the band buy an entirely new URL with a .live domain for the third single off of an upcoming album? Instead of just releasing this on their official site? Or a site for the album? Is this supposed to be some clever viral Radiohead shit?

fuzzyroes · 11-07-2018, 10:00 PM

Good god, this song is bloody terrible.

They're obviously trying to go for that new "alternative" sound that is all over the charts. It actually reminds me of the new Fall Out Boy type of sound.

I'm entirely surprised that so many people like Knights of malta. It's not catchy at all, the songwriting is daft and the mix is boring as can be. Worst of the 3 new songs.

This new music is turning out to be a massive disappointment.

Also, why is JC's sound always so neutered now?!? You know it's bad when I'm longing for the days of the Zeitgeist era... Rick Rubin blows.

Mals Marola · 11-07-2018, 10:10 PM

bloody... daft... what are you british now, guy?

fuzzyroes · 11-07-2018, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mals Marola

bloody... daft... what are you british now, guy?

Been listening to a lot of Karl Pilkington podcasts and have been kicking it with a British dude lately, maybe it's just rubbing off on me haha

Corgan's Bluff · 11-07-2018, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Disco King

Also, why the fuck did the band buy an entirely new URL with a .live domain for the third single off of an upcoming album? Instead of just releasing this on their official site? Or a site for the album? Is this supposed to be some clever viral Radiohead shit?

The video on that site is an unlisted YouTube video that might appear to public at the release date of the album:

https://youtu.be/O80Kwt4zcxs

Reyngel · 11-07-2018, 10:27 PM

1. His vibrato. Fuck. He is so stubborn about insisting on doing it. It just completely destroys what otherwise might be good/interesting music.

2. Why is Jimmy even in the band anymore? I can’t even tell it’s him. Even in his most subtle takes, you could just “tell” a Jimmy take, particularly his fills. But now... is it Byrne? I can barely tell the difference. And it’s not because he’s older. I’ve watched plenty of clinics of him slaying it with all sorts of styles and dynamics and subtle brilliance.... none of which I’m finding with the Pumpkins these days. He seems bored and uninspired. Not hard to see why.

3. I’m not opposed to Pumpkins music sounding radically different from the past. Pomp + Circumstances is one of my all-time favorites. It’s really just his awful, overly-complicated, contrived singing style lately, mixed with lyrics that NO one can emotionally connect with thematically.

Disco King · 11-07-2018, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Corgan's Bluff

The video on that site is an unlisted YouTube video that might appear to public at the release date of the album:

https://youtu.be/O80Kwt4zcxs

I mean, obviously they wanted people to hear the song today, or else they wouldn't have published a YouTube video at all, unlisted or not. And they wouldn't have had the song go live on a website today.

I feel like the whole "private video" thing is meant to make this a viral thing that spreads through link-sharing and word-of-mouth, but the band just doesn't have the popularity or following to make that a sensible choice.

Nobody is going to be excitedly sharing this mediocre song in their Twitter statuses. Sorry, guys, but you're not Radiohead. Maybe it'd work if Corgan hadn't spend the last decade watering down the brand with boring music. If this were, like, the first new Pumpkins shit in 20 years, and the quality were actually near the old stuff, maybe they would still have enough of a cult following for this to work, and for there to be mbv-like excitement about this. But, it's cheesy electronic song from a band that has taught people to stop paying attention.

fuzzyroes · 11-07-2018, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reyngel

1. His vibrato. Fuck. He is so stubborn about insisting on doing it. It just completely destroys what otherwise might be good/interesting music.

2. Why is Jimmy even in the band anymore? I can’t even tell it’s him. Even in his most subtle takes, you could just “tell” a Jimmy take, particularly his fills. But now... is it Byrne? I can barely tell the difference. And it’s not because he’s older. I’ve watched plenty of clinics of him slaying it with all sorts of styles and dynamics and subtle brilliance.... none of which I’m finding with the Pumpkins these days. He seems bored and uninspired. Not hard to see why.

3. I’m not opposed to Pumpkins music sounding radically different from the past. Pomp + Circumstances is one of my all-time favorites. It’s really just his awful, overly-complicated, contrived singing style lately, mixed with lyrics that NO one can emotionally connect with thematically.

Couldn't agree with you more.

Being radically different is fine, but the melodies are just wholly uninteresting and the lyrics aren't exhibiting any passion or emotion. There's just no energy in this music.

The teargarden comparison made by someone is this thread is rather apt. I would compare this track to a combination of Song For A Son meets Spangled.

It's sad, I thought the return of Jimmy and James might lead to something special, but I don't even hear their influence or sound in these 3 tracks aside from a few small moments (I.E. JC fills on Solara, Iha's lead lick on the verse of Sivery... and that's essentially it)

WeilandFan · 11-07-2018, 10:51 PM

Billy said on Instagram that James plays the guitar solo on Knights of Malta.

paranoid · 11-07-2018, 10:56 PM

This is good I’m not joking. Lots of ya wrong about it.

Also, yes this is clearly jimmy and not Byrne because he can fucking play in time.

paranoid · 11-07-2018, 10:56 PM

Also fuzzyroes just fucking go away already. Literally everything you say is dumb and wrong.

fuzzyroes · 11-07-2018, 10:57 PM

Also, what's the deal with that lead guitar at the 1:47 mark? It sounds like an opportunity to really let loose and shred but it sounds like a 10 year old plucking away. I know it's a stylistic choice, but ehhhh... Misses the mark IMO.

paranoid · 11-07-2018, 10:57 PM

Also yes James does solo here.

paranoid · 11-07-2018, 10:58 PM

I said shut up fuzzy you fucking colossal moron.

fuzzyroes · 11-07-2018, 10:58 PM

oh god, that's Iha?

weakkkkkkkk

fuzzyroes · 11-07-2018, 10:59 PM

I've got paranoid on ignore, does he happen to me ripping on me?

If so, dude, I can't care less about your Billy Corgan fanaticism. This song sucks and it's not me being a dickhead about it.

paranoid · 11-07-2018, 11:03 PM

no you're trying to fit in but secretly you love it. everyone on netphoria has called you an idiot numerous times and you are desperately trying to fit in.

but this song is above your intellect, obviously.

reprise85 · 11-07-2018, 11:05 PM

i mean, i like it but it's kinda a nothing song you know? it doesn't make me feel anything. but it's nice i suppose.

paranoid · 11-07-2018, 11:08 PM

gospel rock mixed with pink floyd i mean it's a bunch of 50 something dads playing what they want to play. nothing wrong with that. it's what SP's become.

fuzzyroes · 11-07-2018, 11:09 PM

Alright, I "unignored" you for a second to see what all the fuss was about.

I dunno man, if you like it, that's cool. It's certainly not my cup of tea.

I've always liked Smashing Pumpkins for the frenetic, unhinged energy and the raw explosive passion and sensitivity... This song, like almost everything on Teargarden, has none of it.

There's simply nothing that excites me about the composition... Nothing that gets me stoked about wanting to revisit it. It's just bland... Blander than Imagine Dragons. Again, it seems more like they're trying to feel out the charts and make something that would fit in as opposed to just making something authentic and natural.

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11-07-2018, 07:51 PM	#181
Corgan's Bluff Minion of Satan Location: Travelling between Ukraine and Russia Posts: 5,357	The flying strings of the seventies:

11-07-2018, 08:46 PM	#182
Modern90's Demi-God Location: The Past, Future, and Present Posts: 388	I cant stand the wooo-wooo-wooo. overall i think its ok at best , doesnt sound like a other SP stuff, but im fine with differen

11-07-2018, 08:51 PM	#184
Funbags Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,425	Holy fuck Rick Rubin ruined this song. I can see what they're going for, but ugh

11-07-2018, 09:14 PM	#186
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218	yeah i know cos i'm most def not ripped

11-07-2018, 09:14 PM	#187
enthusaroo Apocalyptic Poster Location: ameriKKKa Posts: 2,749	I think this song sounds like a total mess. like billy is trying so hard to copy some generic "meant to be inspirational" pop song, but it falls short on every level.

11-07-2018, 09:21 PM	#189
Disco King Minion of Satan Location: Banned Posts: 8,875	Even though I can't say I'm a fan of this song, I still appreciate Corgan stuff that tries to explore new territory and push past the boundaries of accepted Pumpkins canon (even if it doesn't do it very well) more than I do the shit that just tries to pump from the well of popular past Pumpkins hits while sounding entirely phoned in and imaginationless. For that reason alone, this song is much better than "Solara," but I still prefer "Silvery Sometimes." The idea of having an electronic-gospel-choir-prog-rock Pumpkins song would have been really awesome were this a better song.

11-07-2018, 09:23 PM	#190
Disco King Minion of Satan Location: Banned Posts: 8,875	This band is in a dark place when my greatest praise of a song is "at least there was an attempt."

11-07-2018, 09:27 PM	#191
Disco King Minion of Satan Location: Banned Posts: 8,875	Also, why the fuck did the band buy an entirely new URL with a .live domain for the third single off of an upcoming album? Instead of just releasing this on their official site? Or a site for the album? Is this supposed to be some clever viral Radiohead shit?

11-07-2018, 10:00 PM	#192
fuzzyroes Banned Posts: 21,169	Good god, this song is bloody terrible. They're obviously trying to go for that new "alternative" sound that is all over the charts. It actually reminds me of the new Fall Out Boy type of sound. I'm entirely surprised that so many people like Knights of malta. It's not catchy at all, the songwriting is daft and the mix is boring as can be. Worst of the 3 new songs. This new music is turning out to be a massive disappointment. Also, why is JC's sound always so neutered now?!? You know it's bad when I'm longing for the days of the Zeitgeist era... Rick Rubin blows.

11-07-2018, 10:10 PM	#193
Mals Marola Socialphobic Location: Your god damn living room Posts: 10,000	bloody... daft... what are you british now, guy?

11-07-2018, 10:27 PM	#196
Reyngel Apocalyptic Poster Location: Seattle Posts: 3,682	1. His vibrato. Fuck. He is so stubborn about insisting on doing it. It just completely destroys what otherwise might be good/interesting music. 2. Why is Jimmy even in the band anymore? I can’t even tell it’s him. Even in his most subtle takes, you could just “tell” a Jimmy take, particularly his fills. But now... is it Byrne? I can barely tell the difference. And it’s not because he’s older. I’ve watched plenty of clinics of him slaying it with all sorts of styles and dynamics and subtle brilliance.... none of which I’m finding with the Pumpkins these days. He seems bored and uninspired. Not hard to see why. 3. I’m not opposed to Pumpkins music sounding radically different from the past. Pomp + Circumstances is one of my all-time favorites. It’s really just his awful, overly-complicated, contrived singing style lately, mixed with lyrics that NO one can emotionally connect with thematically.

11-07-2018, 10:51 PM	#199
WeilandFan Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,270	Billy said on Instagram that James plays the guitar solo on Knights of Malta.

11-07-2018, 10:56 PM	#200
paranoid Minion of Satan Location: up a tree Posts: 7,521	This is good I’m not joking. Lots of ya wrong about it. Also, yes this is clearly jimmy and not Byrne because he can fucking play in time.

11-07-2018, 10:56 PM	#201
paranoid Minion of Satan Location: up a tree Posts: 7,521	Also fuzzyroes just fucking go away already. Literally everything you say is dumb and wrong.

11-07-2018, 10:57 PM	#202
fuzzyroes Banned Posts: 21,169	Also, what's the deal with that lead guitar at the 1:47 mark? It sounds like an opportunity to really let loose and shred but it sounds like a 10 year old plucking away. I know it's a stylistic choice, but ehhhh... Misses the mark IMO.

11-07-2018, 10:57 PM	#203
paranoid Minion of Satan Location: up a tree Posts: 7,521	Also yes James does solo here.

11-07-2018, 10:58 PM	#204
paranoid Minion of Satan Location: up a tree Posts: 7,521	I said shut up fuzzy you fucking colossal moron.

11-07-2018, 10:58 PM	#205
fuzzyroes Banned Posts: 21,169	oh god, that's Iha? weakkkkkkkk

11-07-2018, 10:59 PM	#206
fuzzyroes Banned Posts: 21,169	I've got paranoid on ignore, does he happen to me ripping on me? If so, dude, I can't care less about your Billy Corgan fanaticism. This song sucks and it's not me being a dickhead about it.

11-07-2018, 11:03 PM	#207
paranoid Minion of Satan Location: up a tree Posts: 7,521	no you're trying to fit in but secretly you love it. everyone on netphoria has called you an idiot numerous times and you are desperately trying to fit in. but this song is above your intellect, obviously.

11-07-2018, 11:05 PM	#208
reprise85 BOTTLEG ILLEGAL Location: I'm faced with so many changes that I just might change my face Posts: 32,800	i mean, i like it but it's kinda a nothing song you know? it doesn't make me feel anything. but it's nice i suppose.

11-07-2018, 11:08 PM	#209
paranoid Minion of Satan Location: up a tree Posts: 7,521	gospel rock mixed with pink floyd i mean it's a bunch of 50 something dads playing what they want to play. nothing wrong with that. it's what SP's become.

11-07-2018, 11:09 PM	#210
fuzzyroes Banned Posts: 21,169	Alright, I "unignored" you for a second to see what all the fuss was about. I dunno man, if you like it, that's cool. It's certainly not my cup of tea. I've always liked Smashing Pumpkins for the frenetic, unhinged energy and the raw explosive passion and sensitivity... This song, like almost everything on Teargarden, has none of it. There's simply nothing that excites me about the composition... Nothing that gets me stoked about wanting to revisit it. It's just bland... Blander than Imagine Dragons. Again, it seems more like they're trying to feel out the charts and make something that would fit in as opposed to just making something authentic and natural.