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Old 04-14-2012, 12:56 PM   #1
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James & D'Arcy sex tape, plz

 
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Old 04-14-2012, 01:03 PM   #2
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i told them on FB i wanted 1. double door shows 2. metro show 3. pastichio medley songs 4. live compilation of adore tunes with JC playing drums

 
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Old 04-14-2012, 03:05 PM   #3
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i told them on FB i wanted 1. double door shows 2. metro show 3. pastichio medley songs 4. live compilation of adore tunes with JC playing drums
Yes.

I'm also fine with them releasing samples and then having a poll before full release.

 
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:16 PM   #4
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i told them on FB i wanted 1. double door shows 2. metro show 3. pastichio medley songs 4. live compilation of adore tunes with JC playing drums
quick question do people want a "best of Double Doors" or is their a certain date?

metro is a given

PM from my conversation is likely going to happen

Not sure how easy it will be to do the adore tunes with JC


All good suggestions

 
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Old 04-15-2012, 07:02 AM   #5
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quick question do people want a "best of Double Doors" or is their a certain date?

metro is a given

PM from my conversation is likely going to happen

Not sure how easy it will be to do the adore tunes with JC


All good suggestions
Wait, are we talking about just a compilation of Jimmy playing Adore songs live throughout the years, or the rumoured re-recording of Adore with Jimmy in a studio which I never really believed existed?

If it's the former, why would anyone be clamouring for this? Tons of boots already out there.

 
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Old 04-15-2012, 10:02 AM   #6
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Wait, are we talking about just a compilation of Jimmy playing Adore songs live throughout the years, or the rumoured re-recording of Adore with Jimmy in a studio which I never really believed existed?

If it's the former, why would anyone be clamouring for this? Tons of boots already out there.
I meant the first one, and I guess it's a pretty personal thing, I'd like to see pro-shot stuff of just going through the album from machina on. Someone could make that on here I suppose.

It would be cool if there are re-recordings but like you, I doubt it.

 
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Old 04-14-2012, 01:39 PM   #7
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Fucking Arising already.

 
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Old 04-14-2012, 02:49 PM   #8
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Metro show.
That's all I want.

 
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Old 04-14-2012, 02:52 PM   #9
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http://themachinesomehow.blogspot.de/

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The "Lucky" 13 - SMASHING PUMPKINS ARCHIVE UPDATE

"Billy Corgan of The Smashing Pumpkins has commissioned an intermediary team for the purpose of recommending upcoming Smashing Pumpkins Record Club (SPRC) releases. In conjunction with fan input, “The Lucky 13” team will review archival material, identify possible pricing models, and propose methods and formats of distribution for selected audio and video releases.

The scope of archival material currently under consideration includes professionally taped or filmed live shows, soundboard recordings, unreleased songs, demos and alternate takes.
Fan input is essential to this project. Here are three ways fans can contribute:

Email recommendations to [email protected]
Share suggestions on your preferred Smashing Pumpkins messageboard. Members of the team will be monitoring designated “The Lucky 13” threads to gather fan input
“Like” the “The Lucky 13” Facebook page and leave comments"

__________________________________________________ _______________________


Well, despite not believing this will make a shred of difference, here's my two penneths worth

1) Rename 'The Lucky 13' immediately. It already feels non-inclusive
2) Be transparent; reveal who this team are. If people get even the faintest whiff of a rat, this isn't going to work
3) Score an early win - release the damn Metro Show
4) [a] Consult the fans who know, who really know, the history and availability of current bootlegs/material
4) [b] DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE EXCLUDE Netphoria or any other long standing message board; speak to at least CoolAsIceCream, 34, Redbull, Spaldz and PistolPete
5) [a] Do not, DO NOT, bandy about pricing, release models, packaging or anything else for a product which does not exist. Seriously, I repeat, do not do this again
5) [b] If a real archivist has been at work, seriously, if you had a real archivist on this project - listen carefully and; release the catalogue for the fans to understand what the base library actually is. Make it easy for them to understand; apportion said library into sections by era and media. Then rate, with examples, quality of said media in it's raw format.
5 [c] Define your objectives (is this about releasing quality or quantity). This will help inform said fans what sort of pricing structure they may wish to consider for said material
6 Stop being vague. Stop it. Seriously
7) [a]Thus, again, create Samples
7) [b] and create direct feedback model against said samples ie; polls
8) Do not release anything post 2008
9) Do not listen to ANYONE who touts GM Palace 1997 as there favourite boot
10) Do not listen to ANYONE who touts post 2008 material as superior, in any shape or form, to any previous work. Even Blinking with Fists
11) Know your demographic: Listen very carefully, to this; your fans are not, in the main, idiots. Please stop treating us as such with running such an amateur outfit. You have already, once again, opened the flood gates for people to be disappointed that you haven't considered their own absolutely ground-breaking idea; there is no way on this planet that you are going to be able to aggregate the multitude of vague recommendations / demands / ideas which will inevitably pop-up. I have previously sat in positions overseeing quality, governance and experience and the way in which you have re-booted this venture is, in my humble professional opinion, a disaster. Start again. Make clear you vision and your values for the project, explain how and what you want to deliver and then and then open it up to consultation
13) GET. IT. DONE.


Anyway what say you JC fans? I'm sure I've missed a point or ten...

 
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Old 04-14-2012, 07:12 PM   #10
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I agree with most of that. If anything it does illustrate the pitfalls of this plan right off. The fanbase by and large really only has the faintest idea of what's even in the archives, so any recommendations we make are either going to be completely redundant (everybody wants the Double Door, Arising, and Metro 2000 shows and everyone knows it) or completely useless (e.g., people requesting things that don't exist). They really do need to lay out what they have, and what it sounds like. Then we can actually gauge what's worth getting excited about.

I disagree about the "no post-2008" material stuff though. I want to hear the pre-TG demos Billy always talks about that he did with Mike Byrne and Mark Tulin.

 
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Old 04-14-2012, 04:04 PM   #11
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Its very obvious what the fans want. In no particular order:

- Final metro show
- Chicago Songs
- Djali Zwan

Personally, I would pay a million euro's for the Chicago Songs.

 
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Old 04-14-2012, 07:15 PM   #12
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Its very obvious what the fans want. In no particular order:

- Final metro show
- Chicago Songs
- Djali Zwan

Personally, I would pay a million euro's for the Chicago Songs.
Chicago Songs are supposedly already in the works too. Billy's mentioned a couple times that they were going to put them out this year or next.

I don't think he can put out the Zwan stuff for another couple years when he gets the rights back. I hope he lets it fall under the SP archive stuff when the time comes.

 
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:18 PM   #13
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Its very obvious what the fans want. In no particular order:

- Final metro show
- Chicago Songs
- Djali Zwan

Personally, I would pay a million euro's for the Chicago Songs.
other than Metro
this will need to wait till 2014 because they are held under the WB contract

 
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Old 04-15-2012, 06:11 PM   #14
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other than Metro
this will need to wait till 2014 because they are held under the WB contract
I wonder when the Machina reissue is going to be released...

 
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Old 04-15-2012, 07:01 PM   #15
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I wonder when the Machina reissue is going to be released...
Next year, I believe.

PI and MCIS this year, Adore & Machina next year.

 
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Old 04-14-2012, 07:05 PM   #16
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http://www.crestfallen.com/2012/04/1...the-metro-dvd/

“Everyone is going to say they want [The “Last” Metro Show]. But, no Shit. Okay, I know that and there is already plans to put that out. Now I’ve said that before, but we actually have concrete plans to put that out.”

Billy goes on the say that this will be part of an EMI reissue package and not part of The Lucky 13 project.

 
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Old 04-15-2012, 07:47 AM   #17
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Billy goes on the say that this will be part of an EMI reissue package and not part of The Lucky 13 project.
That sucks.

 
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Old 04-14-2012, 08:56 PM   #18
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Pre-Jimmy Demos! this is the most interesting thing to me b/c it's much different than what came after, and it would be nice to hear that whole transition phase betw. the marked and what sp turned into in 89.

 
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Old 04-14-2012, 10:12 PM   #19
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I'd love to hear any Starchildren stuff. Of course video would rock too.

 
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Old 04-14-2012, 10:20 PM   #20
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is there any "Starchildren" stuff? wasn't it just a name b0lly invented to fuck around with Flood in the studio when the other members were too sick of his shit to come to work?

 
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Old 04-15-2012, 10:47 AM   #21
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is there any "Starchildren" stuff? wasn't it just a name b0lly invented to fuck around with Flood in the studio when the other members were too sick of his shit to come to work?
A soundboard recording of the show we have would be awesome. Plus, The Frogs set was taped by the band that night so its very possible there is atleast one angle of footage.

Probably not much of any studio recordings, but I would love to hear a better, complete version of the gig we have. Hell, maybe there are more Starchildren gigs too!

 
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Old 04-14-2012, 10:24 PM   #22
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starchildren was pre-mcis

 
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:41 PM   #23
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I don't care what he puts out, im gonna download the ones I want and not give him a fucking penny.

 
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Old 04-15-2012, 12:44 AM   #24
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on their fb i said it was just another future broken promise from billy and someone told me to quit bitching or something i don;t remember because it was like a few days ago and my memory is shite

 
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Old 04-15-2012, 03:20 AM   #25
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Billy's taken the metro show and shoved it up his ass like a piece of coal and just prays if he holds on to it long enough it will come out a diamond.

 
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Old 04-15-2012, 05:50 AM   #26
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It's one hell of a hot coal.

 
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Old 04-15-2012, 05:58 PM   #27
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Hipsters United said in one of their podcasts that their is video footage of the very first SP show with Billy on bass and James on guitar. I'd like to see at least some footage from this.

 
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Holy LOL, I wasn't expecting that.

 
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Old 04-16-2012, 02:33 AM   #30
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I want as many demos and live stuff from the 1990 - 2000 period as I can get

 
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