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07-19-2018, 07:09 PM | #1 |
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Dear Netphoria...you are TERRIBLE
Just kidding.
Last edited by solaraflame : 07-30-2018 at 10:43 AM. Reason: peace makin' |
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07-19-2018, 07:20 PM | #2 |
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a lot of netphoria like his last record and this tour.
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07-19-2018, 07:22 PM | #3 |
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07-19-2018, 07:28 PM | #4 |
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07-19-2018, 07:29 PM | #5 |
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07-19-2018, 07:32 PM | #6 |
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Billy has threatened physical violence against a transgendered person. Way to set the bar high, buttmunch
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07-19-2018, 07:33 PM | #7 |
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hi billy
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07-19-2018, 07:37 PM | #8 |
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Ok Linda
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07-19-2018, 07:37 PM | #9 |
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fan: short for fa·nat·ic \ fə-ˈna-tik \ a person exhibiting excessive enthusiasm and intense uncritical devotion
I love the pumpkins music, past and a good bit of the present, but I wouldn't say I'm a fanatic. If you're asking for people to completely turn a critical eye away from everything the pumpkins release, I think you should lower your expectations. I think this is what Billy expects most of the time, and what he's referring to when he says people aren't "true fans". Aside from that, yes there is an excessive amount personal attacks within these walls that have nothing to do with the band or the music. Why do I come here then, as opposed to sticking with the more positive reddit or facebook pages? I guess because most people here seem to have higher standards for music, and the actual conversations about the band and music tend to have more depth to them. Plus I'd rather disagree with someone and have a discussion about it, than be in a room full of fans saying "everything is wonderful!" There you go. My 2 cents. Last edited by jparker800 : 07-19-2018 at 07:43 PM. |
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07-19-2018, 07:38 PM | #10 |
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There are way too many posters these days.
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07-19-2018, 08:35 PM | #11 |
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There are things I disagree with that are posted on here, and things I disagree with that are posted on Sad Machines/The Smashing Pumpkins Billy fan group on Facebook/The Smashing Pumpkins Reddit. There's also things I agree with posted on Netphoria and those places. I don't agree with any personal attacks on Billy and D'arcy. My criticism of Billy especially this year has been solely based on business negotiations/decisions.
One thing I give Netphoria credit for is that I am not censored on here. A post like the one you made wouldn't be allowed on other boards. I am not allowed to post on Smashing Pumpkins fan groups on Facebook. Regarding the Shiny and Oh So Bright tour, I've seen a lot of differing opinions on here since it started. |
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07-19-2018, 08:35 PM | #12 |
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ok
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07-19-2018, 08:41 PM | #13 | |
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07-19-2018, 08:49 PM | #14 |
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Jesus christ Linda or Clay, some of us are still into this tour despite the cowardly leaking of the D'arcy photo. Would you please ask BC if audio recording is still OK? Thank you.
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07-19-2018, 08:58 PM | #15 |
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Ha you shoulda seen the board 10-15 years ago
But yeah like reprise said, plenty of people here, including old timers like me, dig the current tour |
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07-19-2018, 09:00 PM | #16 |
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But Monuments To An Elegy does suck, sorry to make you cry.
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07-19-2018, 09:31 PM | #17 | |
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07-19-2018, 09:35 PM | #18 |
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lots of posters her have been fans for 20+ years and watched billy turn from a hero into someone they don't like. it's a weird place to be in, being so intimately involved with a person's art and yet disliking them at the same time.
we are allowed to have our feelings about the man. i agree making fun of how he looks isn't nice. and going after his family personally is not ok, but just talking about how his baby mama could easily be his daughter is just stating facts. it IS creepy. man we haven't had a real anti-netphoria crusader in a while around here |
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07-19-2018, 09:36 PM | #19 |
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Monuments is a fucking abomination
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07-19-2018, 09:38 PM | #20 |
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I like Being Beige, Run2Me, and Tiberius. Drum + Fife and One and All are decent. I don't like the rest of the record. I think I'm the only person on Netphoria who likes Run2Me.
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07-19-2018, 09:39 PM | #21 |
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i like run2me, kinda. compared to the rest of the record, sure. but i'm a death from above fan girl and everyone hates that song too. same with pomp and circumstances
drum and fife is the only good monuments song imo |
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07-19-2018, 09:46 PM | #22 |
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07-19-2018, 09:54 PM | #23 |
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Just to add nuance, I hate Run2Me but adore Death from Above.
I have to say, despite some nitpicks, the Houston and Dallas shows were great! |
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07-19-2018, 10:00 PM | #24 | |
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07-19-2018, 10:06 PM | #25 |
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I actually have a lot of the same bizarre hobbies Billy does.
The thing that Billy did that pissed me off the most and made me not see him live for a few years was when he fired Jimmy in 2009. |
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07-19-2018, 10:07 PM | #26 |
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He fired Jimmy in 2009? I thought Jimmy left voluntarily because his heart wasn’t in it?
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07-19-2018, 10:15 PM | #27 |
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I thought the implication was that Jimmy left because he didn't like what Billy was doing with the band, not because his heart actually wasn't in playing with SP anymore
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07-19-2018, 10:17 PM | #28 |
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07-19-2018, 10:17 PM | #29 | |
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When Chamberlin and Corgan hit the road on a so-called 20th-anniversary tour in late 2008, fans started asking the same question. Dressed in long, shiny robes, Corgan played sets that were nearly four hours long, padded by a 25-minute cover of Pink Floyd’s “Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun,” spiced with electronic bird calls. Fans walked out as Corgan berated them from the stage. “It was like burning a bridge, and I’m really good at burning bridges,” Corgan says, smiling. “It was crazy — violent like I haven’t seen in a long time. The dialogues with fans, they got contentious.” Afterward, Corgan fired Chamberlin — though the drummer halfheartedly suggests that he might have quit. Until he had his first child seven years ago, Chamberlin was a heroin addict — Corgan first fired him in 1996 after touring keyboardist Jonathan Melvoin died while partying with him on tour one night. Chamberlin is sober now, but Corgan is convinced that his character hasn’t changed, that he is fundamentally “unhealthy.” “Jimmy is a destructive human being, and people who are destructive break things,” Corgan says. “I don’t see me reaching the highest levels of my creativity if I’m unhealthy and if I have unhealthy people around me. Every time Jimmy didn’t show up for a week in the studio, I made it about me. Any time James Iha was off in a corner somewhere not paying any fucking attention, I made it about me.” After Corgan told Chamberlin he was out, the drummer “unloaded” on Corgan, unleashing 20 years worth of pent-up insults. “So I was like, ‘Fuck you,’ ” Corgan recalls. “ ’Go ride around in a white van for the rest of your life.’ ” |
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07-19-2018, 10:19 PM | #30 |
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