long-standing bands who still nailed your balls during their later years

[Elphenor]

I'm not a huge Swans fan because I'm not big into post-rock and there is an element of that in there, but I absolutely understand why people like them.

Swans are SMART, what you mean by hipsters is SMART people and what you mean by hipster music is SMART music

[I'm Hardcore]

funny how the mention of ONE band just renders a person's opinion worthless.

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by I'm Hardcore

yeah because Swans = knows nothing about music

I'm talking about the context of the conversation that I was eavesdropping on

[Trotskilicious]

what made these fictitious teenagers so ignorant to the great and knowledgeable fuzzyroses? did they mention bands you never heard of?

[Trotskilicious]

you heard it here first folks, fuzzy creeps on teenage girls at bus stops and listens to their conversations

[I'm Hardcore]

i bet John Coltrane had no passion for his music either right? no melody, art school wankery....yeah, fuck off.

[Trotskilicious]

what if, god forbid, art culture embraces NOFX at some point in the future? I mean a Jackass sequel was shown at the MOMA so stranger things have happened

what would you then? when the hip kids you resent so much start namechecking nofx and monkeydicks or whatever band you like

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by I'm Hardcore

funny how the mention of ONE band just renders a person's opinion worthless.

Well you know, it's like when you meet someone and they're like "OMG I love Smashing Pumpkins"!!! And I'll be "oh yeah!? Cool! what are some of your favorite songs of theirs"? and then they're like uhhh I love 1979! and uhh.... what was that other one... that one that was on guitar hero!?"... And then it becomes clear to me that they don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

[I'm Hardcore]

pop punk was hipster circa the first Vans Warped Tour. exactly the same thing.

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

you heard it here first folks, fuzzy creeps on teenage girls at bus stops and listens to their conversations

lol. I always find it very amusing to overhear other people talking about what kind of music they're into.

[Elphenor]

Skate Punk

[Sonic Johnny]

Is this a good time to bring up how he thinks Katy Perryis a great singer but that Lorde is shit because it's generic pop music?

[Elphenor]

It's pretty related

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by I'm Hardcore

pop punk was hipster circa the first Vans Warped Tour. exactly the same thing.

Exactly. And there was a ton of people who just followed that culture because it was popular and dressed all "punk" yet really had no interest in any of the music... they just went to the shows cause it was the cool, trendy thing to do.

It's the same thing now with the Hipster culture... Just because I call out the majority of the idiots who are just along for the trend doesn't take away from the people who are legitimately into the music.

Jimmy Kimmell did a brilliant job at exposing this very type of music fan that I'm describing on one of the segments on his show.



There they are, a bunch of self proclaimed music fans, supporting the bands, going to the shows, but really not having the slightest clue about any of it. Just in it for the fad... Brilliant piece.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Sonic Johnny

Is this a good time to bring up how he thinks Katy Perryis a great singer but that Lorde is shit because it's generic pop music?

i know right?

[I'm Hardcore]

oh goddamnit

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

lol. I always find it very amusing to overhear other people talking about what kind of music they're into.

extraordinarily creepy

especially since you're only interested in telling everyone about what you like and trying to get them to like it also

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by Sonic Johnny

Is this a good time to bring up how he thinks Katy Perryis a great singer but that Lorde is shit because it's generic pop music?

Katy Perrys songs absolutely trounce Lordes material. Lordes minimalist bullshit is an obvious trend that is already dying and wont stand the test of time.

[Elphenor]

Is "hipster" just a synonym for poser then?

I thought Hipster meant the beard and glasses but now Fuzzy is telling me there were Skate Punk Hipsters

[fuzzyroes]

I think we're all going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

I know my opinions are unpopular, so theres really no point of me going any further explaining my opinion because it'll just be ridiculed and have people troll me even more than they already have been.

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

Is "hipster" just a synonym for poser then?

I thought Hipster meant the beard and glasses but now Fuzzy is telling me there were Skate Punk Hipsters

Yeah, poser and hipster are definitely very close relatives... One and the same many might say.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

Is "hipster" just a synonym for poser then?

I thought Hipster meant the beard and glasses but now Fuzzy is telling me there were Skate Punk Hipsters

these days it's an epithet for young, modern, urban, arty people in their 20s and 30s

basically it's mods vs rockers just with different names

mostly it's about class, and if i was a real marxist i wouldn't berate fuzzy's proletarian taste

[Elphenor]

It just sounds like average joe who doesn't understand things putting all counter-culture into a neat little box

[Elphenor]

Anyone who tries to stand out at all is a hipster

Get in line

[Shallowed]

Fuzzy is there a single thing that you've ever said that you've later felt might be wrong? Or despite all of your hypocritical views, which you have to backpedal like an Olympic athlete to hold, are you right about everything?

[Trotskilicious]

i always just kind of feel like the underground is the hipster culture even if they didn't necessarily call it that but keep in mind bill uses the word on siamese dream

andy warhol/velvet underground i feel is the fucking blueprint

i'm pretty sure it's been around forever but only lately it's come to be this cultural epithet that's synonymous with dogshit

and in some ways they're right, a lot of the values are hypocritical, superficial, daft, consumerist, gentrifying, gluten free...almost exclusively white and middle to upper class

but there's unappealing values about all culture groups and individuals

[Sonic Johnny]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

Katy Perrys songs absolutely trounce Lordes material. Lordes minimalist bullshit is an obvious trend that is already dying and wont stand the test of time.

See now this is what we would call an instance of not treating music as being subjective

[Elphenor]

I just think there are people who don't fit in to regular society and are about to fucking off themselves and then they discover Punk or indie or whatever and it's like wow there are others like me.

[Trotskilicious]

no there's a lot of people maintaining an image, you know that already. you've said so.

[Trotskilicious]

a lot of people just like bands because their friends like it and they can go to the band's show with their friends

those people are called "popular" and some of them may be nice to you and some of them are not and are kind of douchey and then you get butthurt and start calling them HIPSTERS