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my point was just that you can't not stay on the lookout for plot clues for future films because at a certain point you'll have no chance of keeping up even if you're not into comics |
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05-24-2015, 07:59 PM | #512 |
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I've never read comics beyond like Watchmen and (terrible) Buffy Season 8, but I'm all about all those Marvel movies. Though I do see them as Fun rather than Good Movies. Maybe I should read them, but I wouldn't know where to start.
It does bother me that back stories on all these characters keep changing, or how there are alternative universes for the same characters. But I guess there isn't really an alternative to that. Also glad that Joss is out, I prefer him writing his own characters. |
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05-24-2015, 08:51 PM | #513 |
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do they do that? mess with the backstories? i had assumed they were at least making somewhat of an attempt at cohesion
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05-24-2015, 08:56 PM | #514 |
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They adapt. I don't think Hawkeye was ever presented as a former criminal for one. And technically he should be getting extensive training from cap.he was kinda his protege for a long time.
banner and black widow were never a thing and make no sense together anyway. |
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05-24-2015, 08:57 PM | #515 |
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i meant internal cohesion, i don't care about what happens in the comics
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05-24-2015, 08:59 PM | #516 |
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oh i see
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05-24-2015, 10:18 PM | #517 | |
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Marvel at least makes an attempt to connect their tv shows and movies. they all play in the same 'universe'. DC doesn't Their TV shows and films aren't connected. There are characters on their TV series that are also in their movies and they're very different. |
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05-24-2015, 10:34 PM | #518 |
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Watched The Imitation Game and Wid on the fight back this weekend.
Both were well done. I'm also slow at seeing popular movies. |
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05-24-2015, 11:01 PM | #519 |
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I watched Maggie last night.. it was slow and kind of meh...
I watched Sunshine (2007) this morning.. loved it. |
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05-24-2015, 11:03 PM | #520 |
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Has anyone seen Slow West yet?
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05-25-2015, 12:13 AM | #521 | |
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05-25-2015, 12:27 AM | #522 |
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05-25-2015, 01:41 AM | #523 | ||
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I mean, yeah, two of my favorite superhero films are Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. But then my others are the Richard Donner Superman films and Spider-Man 2. But yeah, the first two Nolan Batman films, I would consider good films. I just think that they explored their themes with a bit more depth than what I've seen from Marvel Studios, and had more dimensional characters. I wouldn't say the Marvel Studios films are bad, they just seem a little bit too typical "summer blockbuster," what with half of Avengers being punching aliens and the other half being one-liners. I know that it's en vogue for movies to "not take themselves too seriously" or else be chastised for being too full of themselves or something, but I generally think it's much more painfully self-conscious for a film to be like "oh don't worry, we're not actually taking this seriously, we know it's silly! We're cool, too! You're laughing with us, not at us!" than it is for a film to genuinely try to treat its subject matter as something worthy of a thoughtful narrative. That doesn't mean that being serious = good. I mean, the shitty film that effectively killed my interest in the genre and made me feel like getting off of the rollercoaster was the mirthless Man of Steel, which tried to superficially ape Nolan's Batman films (they even marketed it with his name more prominently than they did with Snyder's name, despite the fact that Nolan essentially had nothing to do with the project aside from getting his buddy Goyer the screenwriting job and maybe a very early vague pitch). The film is pretty dumb and about on the same level as Green Lantern quality-wise, but dresses it up with muted colors, faux-angst, and destruction to try to convince people it's doing something profound when it doesn't deliver on it's proposed themes or even bother to follow its own internal logic. |
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05-25-2015, 06:03 AM | #524 |
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i think marvel's tone is about right. like i feel the avengers films are about as serious as they need to be when they have to be. It's not like there's never any humor or one liners in modern comics. besides everyone loves a hero with an occasional one liner. personally i miss cheesy one liners James Bond for example.
as for Guardians which was more comedy through and through, you cant sell that type of films with those type of characters to the average movie going audience by taking yourself seriously. Anyway..i did almost cry when groot ''died'' |
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05-25-2015, 09:20 AM | #525 |
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05-25-2015, 10:45 AM | #526 |
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Mad Max: Fury Road: 9/10
Wolf Of Wall Street: 9/10 |
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05-25-2015, 10:48 AM | #527 |
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05-25-2015, 10:52 AM | #528 |
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I'm definitely more of a Dark Knight / Winter Soldier type of guy than a Avengers / Avengers 2 type of guy. I have no time for the more light-hearted fantastical comic book films aimed at teenagers. I hated Iron Man 2 and I hated the original Spider-man films for the most part. I want to see Man of Steel. I just haven't gotten around to it yet.
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05-25-2015, 11:14 AM | #529 |
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wolf of wall street would have been good if it was an hour shorter. as is it's a 4/10 imo. the only really great thing about it was those scenes you see from dicaprio's point of view and then from reality and they're all fucked up. and i like him as an actor, so thats not why i didnt like it
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05-25-2015, 11:31 AM | #530 |
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i didn't like this film much at all. like i get that it's over the top woohoo on drugs nonsense but i don't know. then again i hate diciprio.
i'm really not sold on post 90's scorsese. i don't think i really cared for anything he's done since. |
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05-25-2015, 11:32 AM | #531 |
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but then again..it all fucking has dicrapio in it. why dont these two fuck already.
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05-25-2015, 12:02 PM | #532 | |
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different strokes though. i just love scorsese's work so much. he's still totally got it |
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05-25-2015, 05:12 PM | #533 |
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Fury Road: A-
Really good but the hype made my expectations way too high. |
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05-25-2015, 05:54 PM | #534 |
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i downloaded a cam rip of fury road which is the equivalent of streaming music on spotify
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05-25-2015, 06:05 PM | #535 |
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Tom Hardy is also insanely attractive. Gooooood lord. Unf.
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05-25-2015, 06:10 PM | #536 |
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05-25-2015, 07:14 PM | #537 |
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wolf of wall street only feels too long when it makes an abrupt tone change
it's celebrating the unrepentant debauchery as comedy (successfully to me) and then all of a sudden he's punching his wife and crashing his car with his kid in it and it's like they realized oh we should make this dramatic here to make sure we get an oscar nom which actually worked for them, so whatever |
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05-25-2015, 07:16 PM | #538 |
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The Dark Knight Rises
Captain America: The Winter Soldier The Avengers Batman Begins The Avengers: Age of Ultron The Dark Knight Iron Man 1 everything else is basically hot piss i am not currently prepared to defend my stance on TDKR because I've done it so many times that I'm exhausted so please don't bother to argue or i mean do so because what else is there to do what am i gonna go read another cracked list |
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