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03-16-2010, 11:41 AM | #31 |
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That's kinda bullshit. How do you know any or all of the other songs aren't riffs that Billy has just been sitting on since the 90s. Just because there aren't recordings of them doesn't mean they didn't exist in some form. Just how he keeps note cards with lyric ideas as well.
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03-16-2010, 11:56 AM | #32 | |
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just sayin' |
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03-16-2010, 12:28 PM | #33 |
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Lost in the Woods
Glorious To Wonder, To Suffer Gossamer |
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03-16-2010, 12:29 PM | #34 | |
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03-16-2010, 12:32 PM | #35 |
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When you look at the definition of "since" as a conjunction, I don't think it includes its object in the time frame. But it's unclear. I.e. "Billy was great in 2000, but what has he done since then?"
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03-16-2010, 12:49 PM | #36 |
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yes yes the thread title needs more clarification.
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03-16-2010, 01:34 PM | #37 |
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Chrysanthemum, Of A Broken Heart, Mary Star of the Sea, Walking Shade, Lost in the Woods, As Rome Burns...
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03-16-2010, 03:05 PM | #38 |
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The Rose March
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03-16-2010, 03:38 PM | #39 |
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Riverview as played on during the BBC session closely followed by El-A-Noy.
TBH he was on form with a lot of Djali Zwan songs. Just a shame we'll never hear them again. |
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03-16-2010, 03:40 PM | #40 |
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03-16-2010, 03:49 PM | #41 |
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Cast a stone
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03-16-2010, 04:01 PM | #42 |
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The Empty Sea (just about SP1 quality, in my opinion) and A New Poetry are fighting for the top spot for me.
Mary Star of the Sea for best rocker And who can listen to My Life and Times without smiling |
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03-16-2010, 05:12 PM | #43 |
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I forgot about that one. That song retains that kind of intimate magic his acoustic pieces used to have, in the vein of Medellia, Soothe, Purr Snickety... warm, lonely, beautiful sound.
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03-16-2010, 05:29 PM | #44 |
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03-16-2010, 05:55 PM | #45 |
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the world's fair
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03-16-2010, 06:05 PM | #46 |
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Prairie Song.
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03-16-2010, 06:40 PM | #47 |
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Riverview, Desire, MSOTS, Gossamer, A100
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03-16-2010, 06:45 PM | #48 |
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The songs he wrote after Zeitgeist were really good I believe (No Surrender, If All Goes Wrong, Peace + Love, etc...). TBK is really the wrost thing Billy done in his career.
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03-16-2010, 06:59 PM | #49 |
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Friends as Lovers
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03-16-2010, 07:02 PM | #50 |
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I don'y know Friends as Lovers, is there someone who have a link please ?
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03-16-2010, 08:32 PM | #51 |
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I'd have to dig through the old Zwan stuff but as others have said Empty Sea and New poetry are up there. Nothing after Zwan though, there have been brief glimmers of hope but nothing coming close to that stuff.
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03-16-2010, 10:03 PM | #52 |
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I still can't fathom how any of you think that Chrysanthemum is something good. It's one of the worst song's he's ever fucking written. The lyrics are atrocious, and it sounds like some terrible cross between immature skater rock and shallow garbage. And I don't mean Garbage, but like, trash. If he released that song for Teargarden, you'd all be tearing him apart for it. The only reason anyone ever clapped for it back in 2001 was because it was Billy on stage for the first time after the Pumpkins broke up.
That aside, I'd say some of his best song-writing since 2000 is: -Mary Star of the Sea(without the Jesus, I half) -Now and Then -Walking Shade -Tilt -TheCameraEye -7 Shades of Black(some of the best, most creative lyrics he's ever written) -Pomp + Circumstances(for its lyrics, mostly) |
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03-17-2010, 04:29 AM | #53 |
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From what I've heard...Stellar.
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03-17-2010, 08:17 AM | #54 |
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03-17-2010, 11:13 AM | #55 |
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03-17-2010, 11:41 AM | #56 | |
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that said - i think chrysanthemum is a really exciting song to listen to. it seems like billy was actually into it for once in the past 10 years. i feel like this, along with stuff like a new poetry and other early zwan, would have been a great sound for billy to build the pumpkins "rebirth" on, instead of fake-me-out goth metal or whatever the fuck zeitgeist was. |
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03-17-2010, 12:25 PM | #57 |
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of a broken heart or empty sea
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03-17-2010, 02:08 PM | #58 |
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Permanence
Never Give Up Tilt Glorious A100 Mina Loy Bit 5 No Surrender Cast a Stone Lost in the Woods Peace + Love The Empty Sea My Life + Times If those songs were recorded and produced properly, it could be an album like Gish 2 or something like that. Last edited by russian iha : 03-17-2010 at 04:58 PM. |
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03-17-2010, 03:32 PM | #59 |
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I like:
Endless Summer (Piano) Death from above (Residencies) |
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03-17-2010, 03:33 PM | #60 |
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Someone should make one of those polls where you drag the songs you like to the top that we can all vote on. I think we had one for the epic Zeitgeist 15 week poll.
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