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07-19-2005, 05:14 PM | #31 | |
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07-19-2005, 05:16 PM | #32 | |
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Of course he is gojng to say that in public. He doesn't want to make him look bad. C'mon now! Is he supposed to say he sucks? |
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07-19-2005, 05:17 PM | #33 | |
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07-19-2005, 05:18 PM | #34 | |
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07-19-2005, 05:21 PM | #35 | ||
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Billy has said a lot of negative shit about James in public over the past couple of years as it is, so i don't think he would have ever hesitated to say his playing in the band sucked if he ever thought so. Read the article and see for yourself... He pretty much says that Him and James were the center of that group. Jimmy was either in or out, but the magic in the band centered around the two guitar players. As far as shame goes, you're getting into an argument over opinion. It's my opinion that Shame is the best song, so dont ridicule me because of it. What are your top 5 favorite adore songs btw???
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07-19-2005, 05:21 PM | #36 | |
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07-19-2005, 05:25 PM | #37 | |
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Well, read how Shame was recorded in the blogs and you can see that James wasn't ordered to play that part.. it was all improved, and according to Corgan a very chilling and beautiful experience. Sure, technically any guitarist could have done what james did, but as far as creativity goes, that is out of the question.
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07-19-2005, 05:25 PM | #38 | |
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Ok. I have to go get that magazine then. You are not wrong for liking that song the best on that album. I was just shocked. My top 5 in no particular order (besides #1) 1. For Martha 2. Ava Adore 3. Behold the nightmare 4. Tear 5. Once upon a time I love the entire album. The only song I don't really dig isn Annie dog. I also love to sheila, pug, and daphane descends. |
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07-19-2005, 05:26 PM | #39 | |
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07-19-2005, 05:28 PM | #40 | |
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C'mon now! Billy is very loyal towards the band and it's members. His take was that they all got there together and it will stay that way. You should know that. |
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07-19-2005, 05:29 PM | #41 | |
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07-19-2005, 05:35 PM | #42 | ||
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2. Ava Adore- I am not sure but i think James play's the solo in this song, if not he did play it at all of the live shows. 3. Behold is the only song on Adore that James co wrote with Billy... it is not credited in the liner notes but in '98 this was pointed out in an interview. (I honestly don't remeber which one, and i am not about to search it out). He also plays the weird feedback guitar solo in the middle. 4. Tear- I don't think he had a lot to do with this song. 5. Once Upon A Time- Wrote the high part that is played through this song, played it as an ebow part during the live shows. 6. Daphne Descends- wrote the ebow guitar melody in this song, which in my opinion makes this song. 7. Pug- I believe he wrote or was part of writing the distorted guitar melody that starts before the second verse. I am only basing this on the fact that it doesn't sound like billy's melodic style to me however. So i guess my basis for this is weak.
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07-19-2005, 05:35 PM | #43 | |
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07-19-2005, 05:36 PM | #44 | ||
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07-19-2005, 05:40 PM | #45 |
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So I take it people have heard this new before. Sorry that I brought up such a sore subject. The dj had me convinced it was real.
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07-19-2005, 05:45 PM | #46 | |
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You are just dumb! Did you watch the full circle. They kept saying how he is very loyal. What choice did he have if he still wanted the pumpkins to continue? He didn't! He said that the plan was to bring Jimmy back and you know what HE DID. He took him back once Jimmy got over his addiction. He wanted Jimmy to get better as opposed to having him continue with the band and eventually kill himself. He would have welcomed Darcy back if she wanted to come back. Once again, he didn't have a choice in the matter. He had to continue that rock machine and it was best to get another person. If it would have stopped then, he would have been telling everyone that Darcy was the band. She definitely wasn't! WTF? Do you not understand this? It makes perfect sense to me. |
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07-19-2005, 05:46 PM | #47 | |
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If darcy and james want to come back, you know that Billy will allow them to. We all know that. |
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07-19-2005, 05:47 PM | #48 | |
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07-19-2005, 05:52 PM | #49 | ||
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The basic fact here is that everyone had an intergral part of the band, maybe not evened out perfectly but everyone had a role that was important. Billy was solely not Smashig Pumpkins.. if he was, he'd just continue on as a solo artist. To continue the band without James and D'arcy may still be the Smashing Pumpkins, but it would not be the same for many reasons.
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07-19-2005, 05:56 PM | #50 | |
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Of course it wouldn't be the same, but we don't have any clue if his solo years would be better than the pumpkins or not. It is way too early to tell. After all, it has only been 1 album and he went in a completley new direction. Oh by the way, Quiet is a wuss. Everything I say, he always adds that I am wrong which is BS. I have my own opinions and I don't hide them in fear just because the majority disagrees with me. He just can't think for himself and I hate people like that. Last edited by Corgan Rules : 07-19-2005 at 06:04 PM. |
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07-19-2005, 06:11 PM | #51 | |
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07-19-2005, 06:22 PM | #52 | |
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07-19-2005, 06:51 PM | #53 | ||
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Billy has admitted himself that he is not to keen on being a solo artist, he likes being in a band situation, and the Pumpkins are his home. I think he put his best foot forward in being solo, but the passion is very different. Not necessarily lacking, but you can tell his heart is absolutely in the context of the smashing pumpkins.
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07-19-2005, 07:11 PM | #54 |
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Corgan Rules, you are seriously one of the biggest retards i've ever had the displeasure of meeting on the internets. Seriously.
There's no way you could ever be subjective about anything billy corgan will ever make. You're just as fucking deranged as those teeny boppers that worship britney spears and the likes, except worse, because you degrade a good musician to an everyday pop idol with the consistent rantings and ravings about various inane subject matters. I hope your mind expires. |
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07-19-2005, 07:16 PM | #55 | |
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Also, uh, mega-loles at everyone trying to argue with Corgan Rules. Water off a duck's back, my friends. |
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07-19-2005, 07:27 PM | #56 | |
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07-19-2005, 09:53 PM | #57 | |
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"Go see the wizard of Oz and get a new brains." Is not. sorry |
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07-19-2005, 09:58 PM | #58 | |
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07-19-2005, 10:15 PM | #59 |
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This is like noob fight at the OK corral. YEEHAW!
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07-19-2005, 10:17 PM | #60 | |
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