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11-21-2014, 05:43 PM | #91 |
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it's not the peoples fault - he gets criticized for essentially becoming dr huxtable during and even after the cosby show. he stayed with the role. essentially by default he became the elder statesman of african american comedy.
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11-21-2014, 05:46 PM | #92 |
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I have a friend that owns a café and bakery. In the late 90s she got a catering job supplying hors d'oeuvres and drinks backstage before and after a Cosby gig. According to her and several of my other friends that worked the gig for her Cosby was a total asshole. He freaked out about one or more of the food items tasting like "shit" and at some point grabbed my friend by the arm and said "are you the bitch responsible for this crap?"
When I heard about this soon after I remember thinking that of course he's an asshole, all he does in public is lecture people. Even before his 80s sitcom the guy made a lot of money getting paid to make appearances to spew his moralism. |
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11-21-2014, 05:51 PM | #93 |
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It isn't blaming the victim to give women good advice
However we shouldn't require anyone to be perfect or to take good advice in order to see them as a victim |
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11-21-2014, 05:53 PM | #94 | |
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The sitcom did essentially typecast him, but I don't think that the public saw him much differently than that before The Cosby show, anyway. He'd done other TV, like Fat Albert (for more than a decade), as well as a couple of other "Cosby" TV series, not to mention all those Jello commercials. Dr Huxtable seemed at the time to be just another version of what he'd been playing on screen over and over before. Not unlike the way that people see Seinfeld or Larry David. |
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11-21-2014, 05:56 PM | #95 |
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Terrance Makes Reservations for Bill Cosby
"drop off phony doctorate at frame shop" http://www.cc.com/video-clips/dxve9v...for-bill-cosby Last edited by butthurt : 11-22-2014 at 02:40 AM. Reason: no autoplay |
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11-21-2014, 06:03 PM | #96 | |
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The hair splitting isn't doing it for me |
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11-21-2014, 06:19 PM | #97 |
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I will grant you that walking alone can be a bad idea in some places but other than that
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11-21-2014, 06:21 PM | #98 | |
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11-21-2014, 07:05 PM | #99 |
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11-21-2014, 07:06 PM | #100 |
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i mean tbh black comedians today, like hannibal burress, seem to think the guy's a bit of a fuddy duddy white-safe fraud
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11-21-2014, 07:06 PM | #101 |
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i wonder if we'll ever find out that morgan freeman is a child molestor or something
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11-21-2014, 07:10 PM | #102 |
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i think this is lost in the hysteria to jump to victim blaming accusations. i see this stuff on liberal news outlets about the "Monstrous" college education classes that teach people to take precautions and be aware.
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11-21-2014, 08:29 PM | #103 |
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If taking precautions means don't drink and don't wear short skirts, which it often is, then yes, that is a problem.
Teach men not to treat women like inanimate objects. That's more important. |
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11-21-2014, 08:31 PM | #104 |
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what would you know about treating women like inanimate objects BRO
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11-21-2014, 08:31 PM | #105 |
ILL KILL UR DOG
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IM THE EXPERT ON THAT RECOGNIZE
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11-21-2014, 08:38 PM | #106 | ||
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11-22-2014, 09:51 AM | #107 |
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Jesus Christ.
So if women are going to drink around strangers I guess they'll get what's coming to them?? Holy shit you people are insane. |
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11-22-2014, 10:05 AM | #108 |
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I was doing no victim blaming at all and if people had got to the end they'd have seen i specifically clarified that.
It's not RIGHT that women should have to worry about being drunk alone among strangers, but they VERY MUCH DO. And again saying men should be the ones changing their behavior is true, but won't make it happen. that's still not the victim fault, ever, if she gets drunk among strangers or whatever, it's never the victims fault. I'm just against this sort of movement now that tells women they don't need to do anything differently, just men. Because it's utopian and magical thinking and will only mean more victims. |
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11-22-2014, 10:09 AM | #109 |
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I think my head is going to explode
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11-22-2014, 10:10 AM | #110 |
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"It's not the victim's fault, they should just act differently so they don't get raped or assaulted."
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11-22-2014, 10:10 AM | #111 |
Minion of Satan
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oh fuck off.
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11-22-2014, 10:11 AM | #112 |
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You saying you're not victim blaming does not absolve you of your victim blaming
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11-22-2014, 10:11 AM | #113 |
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11-22-2014, 10:15 AM | #114 |
Minion of Satan
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I'm not getting into it further because you are in fact being fucking dense.
How does suggesting women need to UNFORTUNATELY always be thinking about potential rapists equals me saying if they get raped because they fiund themselves in a riskier situation, it's their fault? If YOU think i'm saying that makes it their fault ever even if they weren't taking precautions, then you're being the fucking moron. |
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11-22-2014, 10:18 AM | #115 |
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Do you not see the problem with the following statement:
"It's not your fault but you really should have been more careful." If that is a problem, then "you should be more careful" is also a problem. |
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11-22-2014, 10:19 AM | #116 |
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Like. Goddamn it. No wonder we are so fucked.
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11-22-2014, 10:23 AM | #117 |
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Nobody said they're ok with the reality.
The alternative to this, eulogy, is that no one takes precautions against anything ever. Do you advocate that? |
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11-22-2014, 10:23 AM | #118 |
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You make it seem like we're saying, it's ok for rapists to exist because people should be careful enough to not get raped.
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11-22-2014, 10:24 AM | #119 |
Minion of Satan
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I mena you're ok with the idea that women should just not worry about it ever and just live their lives trusting that men will not try to take advantage of them or of certain situations and rape them?
Because see to me, that seems to be what you're implying now. Just cross your fingers and hope for no rape. |
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11-22-2014, 10:26 AM | #120 |
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And you guys are saying that women can and should do more to prevent their own rapes.
I'm ok being on the opposite side of the two of you here. |
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