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Old 12-29-2014, 06:42 PM   #181
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I totally missed you talking more about Happy Mondays. Basically I agree with you.

The first album is the best because of that Mancunian working class thug, ecstasy on the weekend energy. I feel like a boss listening to it, and it's rare I dig something like that.

PillsNthrills is also really fantastic but only the singles reach the heights of the first. It feels more drenched in MDMA as the title would suggest and you really understand where they get their reputation.

God's Cop is my favorite track on it. That riff is too good. And Kinky Afro is not only catchy as fuck but also probably has Shaun's best lyrics.

 
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Old 12-29-2014, 06:49 PM   #182
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You're twisting my melon, man

CCCCAAALLLL THE CCCOOOOPPPSSS

 
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Old 12-29-2014, 06:51 PM   #183
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I totally missed you talking more about Happy Mondays. Basically I agree with you.

The first album is the best because of that Mancunian working class thug, ecstasy on the weekend energy. I feel like a boss listening to it, and it's rare I dig something like that.

PillsNthrills is also really fantastic but only the singles reach the heights of the first. It feels more drenched in MDMA as the title would suggest and you really understand where they get their reputation.

God's Cop is my favorite track on it. That riff is too good. And Kinky Afro is not only catchy as fuck but also probably has Shaun's best lyrics.
Bummed is their masterpiece

 
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Old 12-29-2014, 06:52 PM   #184
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I don't see it. Production doesn't mesh well at all with their style

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Old 12-29-2014, 06:53 PM   #185
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Happy Monday's didn't need a dark album, they just aren't that type of band

You get dooowwwwnnn to Happy Mondays

 
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Old 12-29-2014, 07:02 PM   #186
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I can never get enough of the different Hallelujah mixes. Especially the Club one.

I'd be in a club every night if this was what they were blasting

 
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Old 12-29-2014, 07:42 PM   #187
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Mark E. Smith likes Shaun Ryder okay, but he says the people he knew who were into them entirely burned themselves out with E

Reading his autobiography and I had to stop and laugh for like thirty minutes when he talked about the origin of the cover for "Fall in a Hole" (something I always wondered about) their first live EP away from the UK that was taken from their first tour in Australia



Apparently when trying to make a first impression on the Aussies who kind of thought they were a joke Marc Riley went around acting like big shit even though they only had two LP's under their belt at the time and Riley is by far the goofiest member The Fall have ever had.

Mark says he had to pull the guy off a dance floor and tell him to wait in the hotel room so he would stop embarrassing him.

As a result of the experience Mark picked that picture of goofy Marc Riley "parading himself like a swan to imaginary fans"

 
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Old 12-29-2014, 07:49 PM   #188
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THAT ALBUM WAS RECORDED IN NEW ZEALAND

 
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Old 12-29-2014, 07:51 PM   #189
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You're right actually

Well I mean the events that inspired Marky choosing that picture occurred on the Australia tour but they went on a subsequent New Zealand tour where they were much more receptive of them and I think that's where it was recorded.

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Old 12-29-2014, 07:59 PM   #190
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Yeah, it's the last show of the tour which would have been in New Zealand

I had to google it, Marky doesn't make it clear which show it was taken from.

 
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Old 12-29-2014, 08:03 PM   #191
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OF COURSE I'M RIGHT BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT

 
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Old 12-29-2014, 08:13 PM   #192
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it is a great record. a buddy of mine (well i say that loosely, he's an old guy who i've drank beers with a few times, he's pretty derelict and lives in a warehouse) was at that show, and apparently a lot of the vocal banter wasn't even captured.

 
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Old 12-29-2014, 08:16 PM   #193
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So jealous. The version of Container Drivers from that album is great

 
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Old 12-29-2014, 08:48 PM   #194
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what's a computa?

 
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Old 12-29-2014, 09:11 PM   #195
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The powers that be
Will have to meet
and have no choice but to

EAT EACH OTHER

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Old 12-30-2014, 05:54 PM   #196
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Billy could take a leaf (possibly more than one) from Mark E Smith's book - I mean talk about ploughing your own field and to hell with the fields next door, what the critics think, what his legacy is etc.. I've met Brix a few times and she talks with such respect about what a completely pure and focused artist he was/is - Mark E Smith IS his creative output/career in away that very few artists have the courage or ability to be.

 
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Old 12-30-2014, 06:34 PM   #197
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It's really true. Him and Nick Cave have a similar way of looking at their role as an artist as just another job and that's why they're able to produce so much at a constant rate. No matter what they get up every weekday morning and put on their suits go into the office or studio and start writing/recording because that's just their job.
I think it has to do with them coming at music from an almost authors angle.

They're professionals.

Also Marky talks about how very early he was presented the choice between making music that would be popular and making the type of music he would like to listen to, knowing full well that most people weren't going to get it, he chose the latter.

 
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Old 12-30-2014, 06:38 PM   #198
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It's really true. Him and Nick Cave have a similar way of looking at their role as an artist as just another job and that's why they're able to produce so much at a constant rate. No matter what they get up every weekday morning and put on their suits go into the office or studio and start writing/recording because that's just their job.
I think it has to do with them coming at music from an almost authors angle.

They're professionals.

Also Marky talks about how very early he was presented the choice between making music that would be popular and making the type of music he would like to listen to, knowing full well that most people weren't going to get it, he chose the latter.
Nick Cave...yes. Robert Smith was talking in awestruck tones about NC's work ethic in an interview recently, kind of just saying 'I don't know how he does it'...

 
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Old 12-30-2014, 06:51 PM   #199
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Also, Brix
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How do you divorce this woman?






 
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Old 12-30-2014, 06:58 PM   #200
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"Let me just come over with my bowl cut and thrift store sweaters and marry the hottest women you Yanks have"

Fucking legendary


 
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Old 12-30-2014, 07:08 PM   #201
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Bummed is their masterpiece
And Performance is the best song on it.

This vid is awsome:


 
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Old 12-30-2014, 07:22 PM   #202
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That was rad

 
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Old 12-31-2014, 10:35 PM   #203
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Old 12-31-2014, 10:47 PM   #204
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How do you divorce this woman?





...because looks & "attitude" aren't everything and she was probably unbearable?

 
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Old 12-31-2014, 11:01 PM   #205
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I've never heard anything like that about her. She's the only woman that made Marky release a heartbreak album

I mean, Marky talks with a disdain for the upper class world she's apart of and her artsy friends and their temporary time in the suburbs but never says a bad word about her specifically.

 
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This came up on my fb wall, thought about you weirdos

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Thirty days, 30 albums: how I fell in love with the Fall

This year marked the 35th anniversary of the Fallís debut, Live at the Witch Trials. Before 2014 was out, one intrepid journalist and Fall virgin resolved to listen to their entire discography in a bid to convert to Mark E Smithís febrile faith. Hereís his journey...
http://www.theguardian.com/music/mus...P=share_btn_fb

 
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Old 01-01-2015, 08:48 PM   #207
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I've only listened to the Fall for a month straight not for some experiment but BECAUSE THEY'RE THE GREATEST EVER

 
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Old 01-02-2015, 12:43 AM   #208
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"Far from getting sick of them, by the middle of the month the Fall were all I could talk about, read about, practically think about. I almost certainly bored everyone who knows me to tears."

I know this feel, they really are that type of band. They inspire obsession with the pure amount of depth there is in the material.

 
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Old 01-02-2015, 11:11 PM   #209
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I can never get enough of the different Hallelujah mixes. Especially the Club one.

I'd be in a club every night if this was what they were blasting
Sweet okay now send us a memo when you catch up on The Orb and Moby

 
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god damn he is so annoying

 
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