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06-01-2021, 05:10 AM | #31 |
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Brian reads the top 10 posts to big willie per day 2 this day
You’re fooling yourself if u think this forum isn’t the most heavy presence in big willies daily walk Which is why, don’t be a dumb boring dick (like me) on here when u post |
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06-01-2021, 05:32 AM | #32 |
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06-01-2021, 05:34 AM | #33 | |
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"Hey Bolly, what is that heart or symbol on the back of Gish????" James: "Who the hell is Bolly?" |
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06-01-2021, 08:37 AM | #34 |
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B0lly is definitely from the chat.
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06-01-2021, 10:59 AM | #35 |
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06-01-2021, 11:10 AM | #36 |
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speed kills but b0lly lasts forever
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06-01-2021, 11:31 AM | #37 |
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I agree Billy initially didn't seem to have any real engagement with the online community, I'm going to generalize but I think most musicians of his age probably didn't dive into the internet and chats, message boards, etc.
Over time Netphoria developed a reputation and then it was easy to shoot from the hip and label any discontent or criticism as coming from the "trolls" at Netphoria. And hell yeah there was some raunchy and trolling behaviour to be sure. Particularly when the o-board 2.0, which even before Sad Machines, became an overly praise-heavy place where no dissent was tolerated. Sad Machines are just the distilled, pure version of those fans. Billy's professed spirituality probably had an effect as well - block negative energy, bring in positive vibes. Ironically, he seemed to only get more thin-skinned. Then yeah, Zwan falling apart, MSOTS leaving off most of the good songs and sounding like trash, TFE release and the advert on the same day saying he wanted the Smashing Pumpkins to come back, lawsuits over pretty much everything. To this day, he doesn't understand fan engagement, what fans want, how to turn leaks into positive press etc. Plus the Strawberry stuff, Tila Tequila, falling out with Kerry Brown, deciding to put his terrible vocals up front and dropping even more consonants. GLOW and Feelalol, car commercial, getting a 16 year old to drum for the Pumpkins. Failed promise after failed promise of the Metro show, rarities release, etc. Tone-deaf interviews, revisionist history, delusions of grandeur. The D'arcy controversy with her "injury" and the reunion tour. I think as time has gone on, sadly there's been more to mock than to praise, particularly with Billy personally. When all other social media is filtered to contain only 100% positive commentary, Netphoria also seems even more like a wretched hive of scum and villany. |
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06-01-2021, 12:34 PM | #38 | |
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This should be his Wikipedia entry btw. |
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06-01-2021, 12:51 PM | #39 |
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He’s also mentioned people on Netphoria made brutal fun of Airplane Mode looking like a teenager and dressing like a boy.
Which is totally not true. BTW does anyone actually know who that super casually desssed teenage boy b0lly is always hanging around with is? Anyone???? Last edited by Gooch : 06-01-2021 at 12:56 PM. |
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06-01-2021, 01:24 PM | #40 |
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Now that I think about it, he did specifically say on one of his Instagram Live videos earlier this year that the Strawtits debacle caused him to completely turn his back on the board.
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06-01-2021, 02:09 PM | #41 |
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06-01-2021, 02:24 PM | #42 |
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I'm never really around here, so WTF do I know, but I vaguely remember him saying somewhere that one forum was making fun of his brother?
Maybe I'm misremembering that, or it wasn't this forum, but I'm sorta sure...... I'm guessing there are a lot of reasons though.....vbulletin boards tend to go negative w/ most things. |
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06-01-2021, 03:16 PM | #43 |
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Omg, poor sensitive souls. The reason people like to make fun of you is the same reason you can sell signed vinyl at a premium of $100 or have your girlfriend do pay-per-view cooking banana bread. it's called fame. Get over it.
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06-01-2021, 04:23 PM | #44 |
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I find it odd that people mention post 2007 things for why billy hated Netphoria.
his disdain for this place was obvious before the zeitgeist photo theft, IMO the photo theft really solidified his position into permanence- nothing after that could have changed his opinion about this place. he must know that albums leak - ALL THE TIME. it's basically standard. but having "fans" break into your space to leak stuff is pretty low - and to have do it for internet points is as low as it gets. I can't think of other fan communities where I've seen this happen. It sucks. =============== the build up of disliking Netphoria was obviously his lack of control/moderation of this place but I imagine up until 2007 he already had a resigned "can't fight it, I'll always have some haters" opinion about hatephoria. He knows he's got legit life fans here, and it's also a home to some pure-bred trolls. By 2002 he must have been aware that SP1 created communities of idiotic and immature narcisists. I imagine the poppy/positive zwan was an attempt to swing the pendulum the other way. IT failed. We're still here loving & hating him, but still loveing his music. ================= I'll always suspect that putting Monte in charge of some PR stuff was his "inside joke" specifically trying to troll back @ Netphoria. pure speculation but it's inline with his 'inside jokes' that no one but he himself knows about, or would get even if he explained it. Billy can be dumb like that - it's cute. (he's not a comedian, he's a musician.... has billy EVER landed a joke?) Last edited by T&T : 06-01-2021 at 04:29 PM. |
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06-01-2021, 04:36 PM | #45 |
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People don’t wake up one day and decide to hate on their idols. It’s just a way to exorcise their genuine disappointment.
Dude went from life changing Bowie-level music to blatantly losing his touch in a glorious way, I believe. Ffs, his last IG is 11+ min of him in what looks like a bathrobe talking about stuff you can buy. Who’s that guy again? |
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06-01-2021, 05:16 PM | #46 | |
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It wasn't just his music. It was mine too. |
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06-01-2021, 06:54 PM | #47 |
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06-01-2021, 06:55 PM | #48 |
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i can't imagine getting that angry over MACHINA
was it the CRATE amp? the TEG acapella? what is your "major malfunction," chief? |
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06-01-2021, 08:14 PM | #49 |
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Billy also hated the animated Christmastime video and said it made fun of his dead mom.
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06-01-2021, 08:39 PM | #50 | |
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06-01-2021, 08:44 PM | #51 | |
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06-02-2021, 12:15 AM | #52 | |
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omg it was 10 years ago: http://forums.netphoria.org/showthre...ighlight=jesse |
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06-02-2021, 12:30 AM | #53 | |
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The problem with netpho and message boards in general, is that everything is fair game. Even when it shouldn't be. That said, I think the people here are the truer fans. Never really asked for that much aside from promises to be delivered. Metro DVD anyone? An evening with the smashing pumpkins adore documentary film? He should be celebrating those things and release them. Instesd, he holds onto them as their value drifts away. His guitar tone was great in the adore and the MTAE era fwiw |
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06-02-2021, 03:58 AM | #54 | |
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It's like he wanted to walk away from a legacy that was only 3-5 years old at that point, absolutely preposterous move. |
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06-02-2021, 05:34 AM | #55 | |
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06-02-2021, 06:11 AM | #56 | |
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06-02-2021, 06:21 AM | #57 |
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Imagine doing an album stylistically different from the previous album which was also stylistically different from the one before that.
I dunno, I like the album, but that's still a betrayal and dick move. |
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06-02-2021, 08:16 AM | #58 | |
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06-02-2021, 08:59 AM | #59 |
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Billy always played the "sorry I'm not your typical rock star" or "sorry I'm not the rock star you wanted". He's been saying that since 1993. He had short hair, he dressed goofy - now he's bald and dresses goofy.
But he's used that as an excuse since then. Any "normal" rock star has understood what legacy means, what fans want, and many (Ride, Slowdive) have come back and given fans what they wanted (original line ups, classic hits) and managed to make well received new albums. Billy could do that, but he won't. Refer back to earlier point. This, I believe, is what fans and Netphoria has a problem with. Plus his new music does not have the essence of what made people like him in the first place - fuzzy guitar, melody, emotive vocals. Seriously, I'd enjoy the post-2007 material way more if he sang and produced his vocals like he did in the 90s. But the new music is just way off. It's like if Ride came back and took the cue from Tarantula, instead of Nowhere (in reality, they did neither, and were smart enough to figure out how to make their music sound both new and vintage at the same time). |
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06-02-2021, 09:51 AM | #60 |
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You just mentioned one of the smartest guy in the business. Andy Bell was humble enough not to let his ego get in the way and probably made quite a fortune with Oasis. Last year's solo record is brilliant. No petty marketing campaigns, just a bandcamp page.
Imo these days Billy is no longer capable of writing and producing great music, and he seems genuinely more interested in being a businessman/impresario. Whatever floats your boat, B0lly. Last edited by TheAlter : 06-02-2021 at 10:00 AM. |
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