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Old 08-16-2018, 09:41 AM   #31
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Yay! Just 5 more years waiting

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 09:42 AM   #32
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you guys have already beaten the dead horse but

yeah where have I heard this before

please follow thru b0lly b0b

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:02 AM   #33
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Oh fucking shit fuckity fuck fuck

Best news to wake up to

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:15 AM   #34
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He said Djali Zwan stuff will be release in 2019, so I assume he's planning it for 2019. The transfers were all done, weren't they? I mean, I'd say 1/3 of the job is done by now.

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:19 AM   #35
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I hope this happens. But knowing Billy, it will just be a reissue of all the Machina I stuff with some extra tracks like Sparrow and Winterlong. I could see him doing that as a "fuck you" to all the fans who liked Machina II and not Machina I.

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:22 AM   #36
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we'll have to wait for zuzus to reopen, so he can sell the reissue through his teashop. $2,000 a copy (includes siddharta box set! due to popular demand. not signed. comes with three bags of tea too!)

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:27 AM   #37
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Lol @ all the dummies in here who think a “remix” will make mii sound like polished studio recordings. Almost all the dirt/wetness of which u complain is on the recording itself; a needle-drop didn’t add all that. So the only way to “fix” it is to run noise suppressors or what-not on the raw audio, which will add artifacts of its own and in no way make it sound like what you hope for

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:30 AM   #38
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Last chance to bugg with ultimate Machina storys (and songlists), guys...


 
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:31 AM   #39
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The seems like the only reissue that they could really do something properly standout - given it didn't get a "proper" release last time n everything...

But I'm not stupid / naďve enough to truly get my hopes up, until it actually exists...

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:42 AM   #40
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The whole point of M2 is the blown out sound, and it most certainly serves songs like "Real Love". The murkiness of "Slow Dawn" suits it. I don't want that record to sound like Brothers in Arms or something. Do people complain about the mix on Psychocandy?
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Lol @ all the dummies in here who think a “remix” will make mii sound like polished studio recordings. Almost all the dirt/wetness of which u complain is on the recording itself; a needle-drop didn’t add all that. So the only way to “fix” it is to run noise suppressors or what-not on the raw audio, which will add artifacts of its own and in no way make it sound like what you hope for
Corgan has said that M2 was all just rough mixes, what he had lying around, put on wax

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:52 AM   #41
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Why the fuck would anyone complain about this coming out?

They put the Mono mix of Adore on a disc for the last one. It wasn't true mono but if he's going to do that, it's really not hard to imagine the original released versions wouldn't show up here, at least for M1 if anyone cares about that disc.

I mean, If it sounds like shite to your ears then just do what everyone's been doing with most of the reissues anyway - stick with the originals. Then you'll have the "intended" tracklist to listen to and organize the old tracks into as you see fit, unless you're cynical enough to think there was never any such thing or 2018 Corgan's going to add a Stairway cover or whatever.

There is absolutely no downside to this being put out except for what will surely be an abomination of a price tag

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:54 AM   #42
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no one's complaining; we just mocking, brah.

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:56 AM   #43
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ur father's muh brah, bro

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:58 AM   #44
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i'm all up in yur dad's shadapoo, shadaloo!!

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:58 AM   #45
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Billy replied me again

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Old 08-16-2018, 10:59 AM   #46
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:59 AM   #47
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GODDAMMIT FORGOTTEN CHILD

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:59 AM   #48
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lol good one

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 11:10 AM   #49
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'Tis complicated!

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 11:11 AM   #50
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Old 08-16-2018, 11:17 AM   #51
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Billy replied me again

Screenshot_20180816_163117

What is “archiving” and what does “going thru materials” mean?

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 11:22 AM   #52
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archiving = reuniting and cataloguing all the material they have for that project

Going thru materials = analysing and then selecting whatever they feel should be part of the reissue.

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 11:24 AM   #53
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Complicated process.

Yeah... never coming out.

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 11:25 AM   #54
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“archiving”
Billy (2014):

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"work has begun on transfers from the original 24 track tapes, as well as a host of select live shows."


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going thru materials
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"Other possibilities of coalescing the story exist: including the addition of extant materials such acoustic alternates, re-contextualized soundtrack pieces, and use of spoken word to create an immersive experience."

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 11:40 AM   #55
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Billy (2014):
"Other possibilities of coalescing the story exist: including the addition of extant materials such acoustic alternates, re-contextualized soundtrack pieces, and use of spoken word to create an immersive experience."
Translation: “We’re going to fix none of the problems with the original release, and we’re going to ruin what exists with added performances from Jeff Schroeder and Linda Strawberry. Also the mystery and tracklist-within-a-tracklist will make the whole thing painful to listen to. You’re welcome.”

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 11:44 AM   #56
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When the leaks happened he was yelling about "presents opened too early" so headway was probably made in selecting some stuff

He was also talking about guest vocalists but then there's this more recently:



Good shit'll still be there.

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 11:50 AM   #57
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At the very least we're getting more concrete updates than what we got from Frank Rat Bastard Announcement of an Announcement Newsletter Quinto

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 11:51 AM   #58
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Ask him if he’d also ******* new clean mixes for the people that have heard the original mixes enough the past 17 years.

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 12:05 PM   #59
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Old 08-16-2018, 12:08 PM   #60
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Bring them at least back for Machina, Billy...


 
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