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Old 02-15-2018, 11:11 AM   #151
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I think a lot of the success will depend on ticket price. People will have more of a "why not go?" attitude if it's reasonable but no one save for "fans" will pay for an overpriced ticket

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 11:29 AM   #152
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I think a lot of the success will depend on ticket price. People will have more of a "why not go?" attitude if it's reasonable but no one save for "fans" will pay for an overpriced ticket
$35 (what the 2000 UC show was) is about $50 in 2018 dollars. They'd be crazy to put themselves much higher than that.

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 11:31 AM   #153
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Oh they will and people will pay it. Just you wait and see.

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 11:40 AM   #154
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around $50 is perfectly reasonable, i agree. and it would definitely lead to larger crowds so they would still get their larger paycheck. but i fear they're going to charge around 2-3 times that which will absolutely prevent me (and almost all the casuals) from going. it's hard to justify spending that much to see a bunch of 50 year olds trying to ROCK. when i saw ozzy a couple years ago the tickets were like $45 dollars and that was OZZY. the show was also in a theater, not an arena. -_-

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 12:06 PM   #155
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I bet James will be singing one song, probably One and Two.

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 12:19 PM   #156
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I bet James will be singing one song, probably One and Two.
i'm confused

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 12:21 PM   #157
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I mean the solo tour was priced at 75. I bet that’s the price point. Or maybe they tier the arena.

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 12:26 PM   #158
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Ok so who's your pick to open?
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U2 or Elton John.

Failing that, Toadies.

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:40 PM   #159
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sp playing worst arena in the state -- arcade fire killed it there in september, but (1) that's arcade fire and (2) the arena was still 1/4 empty or so

thanks b0lly

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 03:17 PM   #160
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RH was about $80 a seat at Moda last year. The Pumpkins can't charge more than that or no one here will go.

Limiting it to the first five albums is a good start, but unless they had decided to play SD start to finish I'm not sure it will move the needle much. Perhaps convincing jaded fans to go? But it's hard to think of a song, or a combo of songs, that would make this a must-go for me.

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 03:52 PM   #161
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Setlist leaked:

Daydream/Fuck You (An Ode to No One) (medley)
Window Paine
Spaceboy
Luna
To Forgive/Fuck You (An Ode to No One) (medley)
Fuck You (An Ode to No One)
Fuck You (An Ode to No One)
Fuck You (An Ode to No One)
Take Me Down (abandoned)
Lily (My One and Only)
Annie-Dog
The Sacred and Profane

Encore 1:
SPITEFACE
SPITEFACE
Today (tease)
SPITEFACE
SPITEFACE
SPITEFACE
SPITEFACE

Encore 2:
SPITEFACE

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 04:44 PM   #162
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Leaked/Confirmed:

tales of a scorched earth (acoustic w/ linda strawberry)
the spaniards (acoustic w/ ron roesing)
jesus loves his babies (tease)
owata
pug (tease)
for god and country (w/ sierra swan)
jackboot (nicole fiorentino reimagined) (acoustic) (tease)
jersey shore (jimmy solo) (acoustic)
go
jellybelly (abandoned)
song for a sailor (reprise)
song for a son
teargarden theme (w/ mike byrne)
thru the eyes of ruby (abandoned)
drum + fife
mina loy (billy solo)
mayonaise (billy + james) (abandoned)
astral planes (acoustic)
6234 (linda strawberry improvisation) (ft. matt walker)
suffer (8 minute drum intro) (abandoned)
geek usa (tease)
freak usa
united states (2013 band reunion)
cherub rock (2013 band reunion)
violet rays (2013 band reunion)

Classic lineup Mellon Collie suite:
tonight, tonight (billy acoustic)
to forgive (billy solo)
galapogos (tease)
the boy (full band)
bodies (abandoned)
believe (billy solo)
the bells (billy solo)

Encore 1:
why am i so tired (piano version w/sierra swan)

Encore 2:
Bullet with Butterfly Wings
Oceania (Billy acoustic)

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 04:54 PM   #163
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dude where's take me down? gotta be in there

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 05:20 PM   #164
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I hear Jeff's on vocals for Go & The Boy

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 05:51 PM   #165
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They should get Jeff or Jack Bates to sing Daydream, just because

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 05:56 PM   #166
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Who the fuck is Jeff?

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 09:16 PM   #167
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i know it's basically scraps but since it's 2018 i'll take it. people don't live forever, after all. i didn't go see Soundgarden and now i never will.
same

 
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Old 02-16-2018, 12:24 AM   #168
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Understand where you are coming from and I disagree totally. Bill was on every talk show, Stern, podcasts, YT shows, his social media, a freaking Manson tour, local radio, countless websites covered all his tours. He already did an arena tour 5 years ago and it was a MASSIVE dud. James coming on for some songs will move them from 3000 seat shows to 22000?
Radio appearances mean next to nothing. He's got the big budget promo machine backing him now. That's what's important. And they're gonna be pumping the nostalgia ten-fold. Fans will buy tickets... Guns N roses were playing in some half full arenas before Live Nation came on board with Slash and Duff... Then they were selling out 2 nights at stadiums in each city.

A few things are gonna have to go right, but if they can get some radio play with a good new single ahead of these tour dates, tickets will sell like gangbusters. Jimmy was a total last minute addition on the Manson tour... They were actually slated to have the drummer from Theory Of A Deadman playing the tour, but the dumbass leaked all the dates ahead of time on his promotional website and Corgan had a fit and had to change course... This time Billy is doing things right, and I think it's gonna work.

 
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Old 02-16-2018, 10:36 AM   #169
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I will say this: I'm shocked how many people I know wanna go to this show.

 
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Old 02-16-2018, 11:01 AM   #170
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They were actually slated to have the drummer from Theory Of A Deadman playing the tour,.
In a long list of embarrassments and gaffs, the fact that SP were going to have the drummer from a Nickleback tribute band at the helm might be the most egregious.

 
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Old 02-19-2018, 02:20 PM   #171
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FB solo record? He's released about 50.
I meant his self titled one, heh

 
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Old 02-19-2018, 04:45 PM   #172
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Jin vs Mugin ?

At first I was all about Jin. The hair. The poise. The spectacles. But now I think I like Mugin more. Dude's a fucking force of nature. Plus: he's a felon!

 
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Old 02-19-2018, 04:46 PM   #173
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I hear Jeff's on vocals for Go & The Boy
YES PLZ

 
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Old 02-19-2018, 06:16 PM   #174
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Pretty interested to see what song they hand to James. I have a sneaky feeling it will be Take Me Down, but a case could be made for The Boy, Go, The Bells, or Blew Away.

Farewell & Goodnight might be kinda weird without D'arcy but that one is probably happening too.

 
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Old 02-19-2018, 09:09 PM   #175
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Probably gonna be Blew Away

 
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Old 02-19-2018, 09:26 PM   #176
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Whatever Live Nation started doing to promote this is working.

https://trends.google.com/trends/exp...ing%20pumpkins

 
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Old 02-19-2018, 09:32 PM   #177
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How many times do you need to hear Bullet and Today?

 
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Old 02-19-2018, 09:32 PM   #178
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$35 (what the 2000 UC show was) is about $50 in 2018 dollars. They'd be crazy to put themselves much higher than that.
I'll pay $9.99 on Groupon for tickets, and not a penny more for this pointless tour.

 
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Old 02-19-2018, 10:33 PM   #179
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Whatever Live Nation started doing to promote this is working.

https://trends.google.com/trends/exp...ing%20pumpkins
how do you figure? one spike at the day of the announcement indicates what for ticket sales for this tour that starts Friday?

 
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Old 02-19-2018, 10:58 PM   #180
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how do you figure? one spike at the day of the announcement indicates what for ticket sales for this tour that starts Friday?
I should clarify. It's working in that it just feels like the general public is becoming aware of this tour. Like, they care enough to atleast spend a few minutes searching what this is all about.

I don't know if these same people will actually buy tickets. But I do know that you have to be aware to buy tickets. So it's a start. People were not even aware during Oceania. The advertising was not there like it should have been for an Arena tour.

 
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