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Old 04-25-2018, 01:59 PM   #1
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Default They caught the East Area Rapist/Original Night Stalker/Golden State Killer

Dude committed about 100 "hot" burglaries (where people were always home), 50 rapes, and 12 murders mostly in the mid-late 70s, with one after a long break in 1986. Apparently, his previous murder in 1981 was months before his first daughter was born and the one in 1986 was right before his second daughter was born.

He also confessed to being the Visalia Ransacker, who committed about 100 hot burglaries/voyeuristic sex crimes in 1974 and 1975, ending with one murder after a botched kidnapping almost got him caught. Apparently after this he escalated his crimes after moving out of the Visalia, CA area. There was much debate in the reddit community on if he was the VR, it turns out he was.

He then starting kidnapping (in their own homes) mostly couples and some single women, where he'd tie them up, eat their food, take trivial token items (and more rarely, valuables), and stack dishes on the men and threaten if he heard them fall he'd kill the wife. He would rape the women and sometimes teenagers, and sometimes cry afterwards. And other idiosyncratic things. He also would call victims years after crimes, one suspected as late as 2001.

This is big time, I never thought this dude would be caught. Rumor is that he got caught in some kind of DNA sweep thanks to a relative. There's a press conference in a bit that will likely say more. This guy would tell police he was going to break in on a certain street at a certain time and he'd still get away with shit. He had a couple of oh shit moments but very few that we know of, considering how many crimes he committed. Turns out the guy was a cop until late 1979! He got caught shoplifting dog repellent and was terminated from the force. The dog repellent might answer why no dogs seemed to make noise when he entered houses and sometimes people would say he smelled like chemicals.

https://www.insideedition.com/golden...e-report-42784

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Old 04-25-2018, 02:39 PM   #2
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watched Man Bites Dog this weekend and wondered how one can get away with so much without being caught.

 
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Old 04-25-2018, 03:19 PM   #3
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Old 04-25-2018, 03:22 PM   #4
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c'est arrivé prčs de chez vous

 
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Old 04-25-2018, 03:23 PM   #5
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Old 04-25-2018, 04:14 PM   #6
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California serial killer: DNA ties ex-officer to cold case
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Old 04-25-2018, 07:28 PM   #7
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whaaat? bill kurtis will be thrilled. this is pretty wild considering it's been a long-standing mystery. it won't feel as satisfying to bring that guy to justice, i'm sure.

 
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Old 04-25-2018, 07:47 PM   #8
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i could count on no one else to bring in the serial killer news

 
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Old 04-25-2018, 07:55 PM   #9
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trying to find out more, i stumbled across https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...keith-maggiore ...3 people have already mentioned the arrest

 
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Old 04-25-2018, 09:13 PM   #10
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yes it looks like he is being charged specifically with their murders with more to come

this guy on reddit called nerdfather did a 7 or 8 part weekly special post on all of the crimes of the east area rapist/original night stalker, starting with the assertion that he was the visalia ransacker (which we now know is true). so i was pretty up to date on this dude and the general consensus was that he was probably dead due to his criminal lifestyle, either a murder victim himself or killed in self defense. mostly because of how he appears to have just stopped completely after 1986, which is not usually what serial killers do. but some have waited extended periods of time, for example BTK had an 8 year gap.

this guy was extremely idiosyncratic about how he ransacked and raped, and eventually killed. in fact, he basically repeated the same rape over and over again with regards to his MO before he started killing people, where he dealt with more resistance from people fighting for their lives. said the same things over and over, had the victim do the same thing, incapacitate the male victim the same way, use cut strips of cloths that he already had hidden at the crime scene. in one case he even broke in to a house while no one was home and took the bullets out of a gun, putting the empty gun back where he found it, hiding strips of cloth under furniture and returning later that night or the next night

he's one of the most prolific violent criminals in modern history

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Old 04-25-2018, 09:30 PM   #11
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Why are you so into this weird kind of stuff?

 
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Old 04-25-2018, 09:37 PM   #12
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You really think that some of the most extreme behaviors exhibited by our species is less reasonable a subject of interest than the biography of Cyndi Lauper?

 
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Old 04-25-2018, 09:38 PM   #13
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jesus christ that face

 
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Is that a yarmulke?

 
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Old 04-25-2018, 09:40 PM   #15
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When you and other people discuss these crimes online with such amazement and wonderment, it glorifies the waste of life who committed these crimes against humanity.

 
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it really can be anybody, always

this is terrifying stuff

 
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Old 04-25-2018, 09:44 PM   #18
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Why are you so into this weird kind of stuff?
Probably because of the violence I experienced in my life

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When you and other people discuss these crimes online with such amazement and wonderment, it glorifies the waste of life who committed these crimes against humanity.
No, I'm not amazed at what he did. He's scum. I'm amazed he never got caught and he was able to operate so freely, and it's just unfathomable that he'd get away with it all but it really seemed like he would. The only reason this dude got caught is because it's been kept alive in the media this whole time, especially lately, with renewed interest because of advances in DNA technology and published books. Because he's been on the FBI most wanted list for a long time. It's not glorifying him or his crimes. It's trying to understand the enormity of it because it's real and important and these people were victimized and to stop it from happening again.

 
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Old 04-25-2018, 09:46 PM   #19
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dunno what the fuck that is

anyway he looks just like every other plump old white man

 
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Fair enough. There definitely had to have been gross negligence by police for this guy to get away with it. I don't think that makes him some sort of mastermind though.

I don't know if you've heard of Willy Pickton, but he's one of the most successful documented serial killers in history and he lived about 20 minutes away from me. The cops just botched the whole thing from the start. It turned out there was endless people that complained to the cops about the guy and even so much as accused him of murder and the cops did nothing. I believe some woman escaped and then they finally dug around on his property and they found all the bones and shit.

Absolutely chilling.

 
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I don't know if you've heard of Willy Pickton, but he's one of the most successful documented serial killers in history and he lived about 20 minutes away from me. The cops just botched the whole thing from the start. It turned out there was endless people that complained to the cops about the guy and even so much as accused him of murder and the cops did nothing. I believe some woman escaped and then they finally dug around on his property and they found all the bones and shit.

Absolutely chilling.
When you and other people discuss these crimes online with such amazement and wonderment, it glorifies the waste of life who committed these crimes against humanity.

 
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I always wonder about that. Because everyone calls it a yarmulke but the Jewish community preschool my elder son went to, called it a kippah. He only had to wear it on Friday though.

Is it, though?

 
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Also...I mean wow. I hadn't heard of this guy, really.

Did he stop simply because he became too old and physically unable to continue?

 
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We don't know why. He appears to have stopped right after his first child was born, fwiw. Well, he stopped for several years, and then killed one more time in 1986 right before (or after?) his second child was born.

Perhaps there was another incarnation - now we know of three distinct "versions" of this guy: 1. the visalia ransacker 2. east area rapist 3. original night stalker/golden state killer. is there a 4??? they only knew 2 and 3 were connected because of a DNA match between crime scenes. now they know 1 2 and 3 are all the same person.

 
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Fair enough. There definitely had to have been gross negligence by police for this guy to get away with it. I don't think that makes him some sort of mastermind though.
He definitely got lucky, but he was a cop. He probably engineered his career around being able to get away with all of it. Perhaps a big reason he stopped was fear he'd get caught now that he wasn't in LE.

But he was impulsive in some cases and did crazy shit like walk around neighborhoods without pants on. He definitely should have been caught and is probably not a mastermind but he was going in and out of people's houses like he fucking owned them night after night, year after year, without getting caught.

 
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When you and other people discuss these crimes online with such amazement and wonderment, it glorifies the waste of life who committed these crimes against humanity.
I'm not going into all the horrific details or partaking in discussion groups dedicated to the guy. There's a difference.

 
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i didn't go into horrific detail, believe me

 
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But he was impulsive in some cases and did crazy shit like walk around neighborhoods without pants on. He definitely should have been caught and is probably not a mastermind but he was going in and out of people's houses like he fucking owned them night after night, year after year, without getting caught.
That's probably not even that hard of a thing to do. A lot of people don't even lock their doors, especially not if they're home. I mean it's deranged that he'd wanna do that, but there's a lot of fucked up people out there. Like there was some guy that got busted who'd go in hundreds of houses just to steal womens underwear.

 
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I don't understand how this guy was able to rape so many people without anyone being able to identify him after?

 
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