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06-07-2012, 12:21 PM | #61 |
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make up your own reality! |
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06-07-2012, 02:36 PM | #62 |
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Remember the time Barack wiped his shitty taint with the Constitution? Thank God Christian neocons know its true, Biblical interpretation. One nation under GOD. Right there in the Constitution. Freedom of homomarriage? Freedom from having fucking Christmas trees everywhere? Freedom from prayer in public schools and having intelligent design in biology classrooms? That's the sick-ass socialism that civil-liberty-hating Muslim wants for America. Guy's way worse than Bush. Think of how much freer we are with the Patriot Act. Listen to the talking man, people.
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06-07-2012, 03:01 PM | #63 |
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i love the "When the people are willing to sacrifice the next generation for their current lifestyles..." then some nonsense about government and "pottage" and socialism.
I mean Reaganism/objectivism is all about sacrificing the future for the present because fuck you i live now and i'm awesome |
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06-07-2012, 05:20 PM | #64 |
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when I see socialism I think of Warren Beatty in Bulworth.
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06-07-2012, 05:52 PM | #65 |
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wtf, del
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06-08-2012, 05:13 AM | #66 | |
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really? |
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06-08-2012, 08:53 AM | #67 |
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Yes. No. Yes.
I didn't know that to be a card-carrying member of the left, one had to support a "planned-economy." Have you heard or the Orange Book? Central-planning is value-neutral, at best. Both the right and the left have used it to further their ideologies, although I would see it as more often employed against liberalism. |
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06-08-2012, 09:57 AM | #68 |
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06-08-2012, 11:20 AM | #69 |
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i don't think he claimed to be radical
sounds like he's turning into a democrat actually |
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06-08-2012, 12:15 PM | #70 | |
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I was a member of the Democratic Socialists of America (a leftist organization) for years and we never advocated a government run (centralized) economy of any kind. Even liberals in the USA who support Universal Health care mostly believe in a Privately run and operated health care system. there are virtually no American Leftists advocating state run economies (here in the US nor most of the Western world) |
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06-08-2012, 12:28 PM | #71 |
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that's why they/you suck and fail at everything
I LOVE CAPITALISM AND WELFARE STATE LOL idiots |
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06-08-2012, 12:30 PM | #72 | |
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essentially, requiring everyone to buy insurance from a private carrier is just a great big hook up for all the money those companies poured into Democratic coffers you should be ashamed of yourself, but you think you're rational |
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06-08-2012, 12:31 PM | #73 | |
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are you unable to comprehend nuance? oh right you're an "american liberal" who is easily bullied and shamed by the right into accepting their assumptions about economics |
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06-08-2012, 02:23 PM | #74 | |
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I would support a system similar to Japan's |
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06-08-2012, 02:26 PM | #75 |
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Trots, you bitch all day online just for the sake of bitching
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06-08-2012, 02:59 PM | #76 |
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Well duh.
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06-08-2012, 03:00 PM | #77 |
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06-08-2012, 05:23 PM | #78 | |
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06-08-2012, 05:25 PM | #79 | |
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Yes. And this is the model in most of Europe as well. Yes. I would argue that a fair amount of the Democratic party is centre, if not right of centre. |
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06-08-2012, 05:29 PM | #80 | |
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/09/us...care.html?_r=1 Not surprised at all really. How is it possible that Democrats do not realised how utterly by and for corporations Obamacare is? |
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06-08-2012, 05:29 PM | #81 |
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eventually some kind of collective management of natural resources/energy will be necessary
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06-08-2012, 05:30 PM | #82 | |
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it's like how redbreegull is all anti-war but probama. |
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06-08-2012, 05:32 PM | #83 |
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it's like how republicans in congress can pretend to be deficit hawks after giving GWB a blank check
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06-08-2012, 05:34 PM | #84 |
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you know if a "rethuglican" invades a country he's a war criminal but a democrat attacks it with unmanned drones it's IF YOU DON'T SUPPORT OBAMA YOU'RE RACIST, STUPID AND YOU HATE GAYS.
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06-09-2012, 10:19 AM | #85 |
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Yeah but to be fair those exact charges have been levied against me, for example, on here all the time.
Also Obama never said he would end war as we know it. He said he would fight a smarter war, and he has. It's focused and efficient and doesn't have the expensive theater that little Bush used American taxes to buy, but it's effective. It's the war America should've fought in the first place (if you think it should have fought at all). |
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06-09-2012, 11:47 AM | #86 | |
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06-09-2012, 12:51 PM | #87 |
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how dare obama assasinate a top tier al queada leader connected to two attacks and intent to commit many more
but really though... doesnt this essentially apply to all war time presidents? i'm not giving obama a pass for civilian deaths but if he's some warlord then so are his predecessors. and i doubt you got on your high horse about bush or any of the others |
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06-09-2012, 01:30 PM | #88 | |
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Also call me a horrid person if you must, but I'm pretty okay with eliminating not simply people who have a negative opinion of American foreign/domestic policy and lifestyle, but specifically religious zealots who have the will and means to hurt INNOCENT AMERICAN CIVILIANS. I don't really understand how you can justify not removing these targets - who are clearly more than just a bunch of bros hanging out drinking beer in their backyards who have AKs who happen to get shot. These are people who plant IEDs or blow themselves up in crowded places. But I view human life as expendable so say to me what you must, even if you feel you have made a case for the innocent, but be warned it will not change my cold calculating ways in the least, sir. |
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06-09-2012, 01:32 PM | #89 |
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I mean if you're about to reply with "Well sometimes the USA kills civilians too" then let me say that there are stark differences:
1. It is NOT intentional 2. The deaths of civilians has never been American policy, and it is avoided at great length for it is a horrible thing to see happen 3. It is a numbers game, and they are collateral damage |
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06-09-2012, 04:12 PM | #90 | |
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Because Obama isn't Kony 2012, then, eh... why get so upset? In what universe is this ok? |
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