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07-17-2007, 06:01 PM | #91 |
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Canada - Nice.
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07-17-2007, 06:07 PM | #92 | |
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Regardless, this has to be a bit of disappointment. Considering it's been 7 years since the last Pumpkins album, you would have figure interest would have donned a better first week of sales. Possibly along the lines of Nine Inch Nails: With Teeth, and Tool's: 10,000 Days, both of which came five to six years after there last releases, and both generated strong first weeks sales of 275,000 and 553,000 respectively. I'm certain the album will go Gold, and likely out sale Machina, but I don't think it will go Platinum unless one of the singles following Tarantula breaks big. |
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07-17-2007, 06:54 PM | #93 | |
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07-17-2007, 07:09 PM | #94 | |
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Are you stupid? A million in this day in age is a great success. |
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07-17-2007, 07:18 PM | #95 |
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so how many units are they estimating it sold?
if i HAD to guess, i'd say 130,000 if that debuts at #2, then i'd say week 2 would be something like #27. |
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07-17-2007, 07:23 PM | #96 |
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07-17-2007, 07:25 PM | #97 | |
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6-10 years ago 130k would have placed you #8 or #9 in the charts. |
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07-17-2007, 09:17 PM | #98 | |
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07-17-2007, 09:41 PM | #99 |
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I've noticed that alot of country singers still sell like 4 or 5 million.
probably because their fans don't believe in no daggum computers. |
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07-17-2007, 09:45 PM | #100 | |
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07-17-2007, 10:14 PM | #101 | |
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07-17-2007, 10:25 PM | #102 | |
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07-18-2007, 12:46 AM | #103 |
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so did the us album charts ever come out?
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07-18-2007, 01:01 AM | #104 |
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When is this rap/r&b domination of the charts gonna wane? I can't wait
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07-18-2007, 01:52 AM | #105 | |
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07-18-2007, 01:55 AM | #106 | |
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07-18-2007, 02:09 AM | #107 |
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Honestly, the musical climate isn't the same as it was in the heydays of SP and I really doubt they will ever become the mainstaple of pop rock culture they were in 1996. Unless Billy undergoes a massive and shameless sellout into mainstream culture (ala Sting or something)--and with the music to match--the popularity he might dream of just won't be there. I feel a slightly different kind of rock music is in fashion amongst youth now.
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07-18-2007, 04:00 AM | #108 |
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I don't particularly feel like Corgan is so concerned with taking back the popularity or the relevance he had back in say '96. I get the impression that BC/JC are simply back to create music and do what they love to do, and in that case, Zeitgeist certainly isn't a bad start.
Also, you have to keep in mind the impact and growing popularity of p2p networks and BitTorrent on the music industry. Over the last decade... |
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07-18-2007, 04:49 AM | #109 |
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Zeitgeist #5 in Switzerland
That's damn good. Highest SP peak was Machina with #12 |
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07-18-2007, 04:52 AM | #110 |
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I'm sure pumpkins fans are all leechers off the internet after Machina II was put out so maybe thatll put their sales much lower than it should be...
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07-18-2007, 05:25 AM | #111 |
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not really surprised about NZ #1 debut actually, it's being marketed to hell and back. i saw a guy pasting up posters for it in mah city (Wellington), and asked him for a couple, and he gave me two.
plus i've seen kids all overr myspace talking about the pumpkins and how they're going out to buy the album soon rahrahrah. it wont be a smash hit but i think it'll be adequate in warner's eyes. |
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07-18-2007, 10:05 AM | #112 |
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#1 in canada... so embarrassed for my country.
it will drop fast. |
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07-18-2007, 10:11 AM | #113 | |
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07-18-2007, 10:29 AM | #114 |
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Still hoping to see a #1 US debut. That's enough to tell us that people are ignoring the bad review and buying the disc anyway. It also must mean that there is a large influx of new, young fans or that there has been a reawakening of the fans from the SD/MCIS era.
I am actually quite surprised by how much of a comeback this really is. I mean, yeah, people are trying to sink their teeth into Billy, the band, and the album at every opportunity (even by fans with nothing better to do than pine for an SD2), but they are getting a lot of TV time, radio play, news and web coverage, and they are part of the public discourse for the first time in a long time. People are talking about the Pumpkins. Just yesterday I was walking down to a bar here in Cleveland before the Indians game and I was talking to a friend about the album a little bit, and right as we walked into the bar, what should be playing but "Tarantula." Love it or hate it, Zeitgeist IS leaving a mark. People are paying more attention to the Pumpkins that they have since 1997 when they won that VMA. |
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07-18-2007, 10:40 AM | #115 |
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Last week's #1 sold over 460,000 copies. That's insane. If Zeitgeist does that in the first month I'd be delighted.
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07-18-2007, 10:45 AM | #116 |
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So is the dailydouble number and #2 debut official or not?
I would be pissed if Bon Jovi outsells them opening week. (Yeah, Billy would definitely be 'Jovied' then) |
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07-18-2007, 10:50 AM | #117 |
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07-18-2007, 10:54 AM | #118 |
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So it didn't even break 150K mark... Compared with sales of Tool, RHCP, NIN and BON JOVI, it looks pretty weak. It will be a long way to Gold.
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07-18-2007, 10:59 AM | #119 | |
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So what went #1? Also, how many album sales were fanboys and fangirls buying a second or third copy? There should be an adjusted figure. |
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07-18-2007, 11:07 AM | #120 | |
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Do you adjust movie boxoffice number for fans watching second or third time too? |
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