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Old 07-17-2007, 06:01 PM   #91
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Canada - Nice.

 
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:07 PM   #92
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Update: the final results for Hits Daily Double are now in.....It's at #2!!!! it beat out that stupid pre-teen cunt and interpol. fuck yea.
Since I've had a bad day, and just to be a dick. Hannah Montana album is in it's third week, after an impressive first week sales of 322,000. So yeah, I don't think it meant that much for Zeitgeist to outsale that album by 20,000.

Regardless, this has to be a bit of disappointment. Considering it's been 7 years since the last Pumpkins album, you would have figure interest would have donned a better first week of sales. Possibly along the lines of Nine Inch Nails: With Teeth, and Tool's: 10,000 Days, both of which came five to six years after there last releases, and both generated strong first weeks sales of 275,000 and 553,000 respectively.

I'm certain the album will go Gold, and likely out sale Machina, but I don't think it will go Platinum unless one of the singles following Tarantula breaks big.

 
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:54 PM   #93
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She is the illegitimate child of NFL Hall of Famer Joe Montana. He denies he is the father to this day but the famous name has helped her early success. That and the fact that she once performed a 500-man gangbang in the city of Joe, Montana just to get back at her father for denying her existence. Quite a sad story actually but the record label is eating it up...
actually the truth is that she's billy ray cyrus's daughter which is funnier than what you just posted.

 
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:09 PM   #94
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IF THIS ALBUM TAKES A YEAR TO BREAK A MILL IN THE US IT WILL BE CONSIDERED A huge failure

Are you stupid? A million in this day in age is a great success.

 
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:18 PM   #95
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so how many units are they estimating it sold?

if i HAD to guess, i'd say 130,000

if that debuts at #2, then i'd say week 2 would be something like #27.

 
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:23 PM   #96
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http://www.fimi.it/classifiche.asp?idtipo_classifica=1

italy n. 5

 
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:25 PM   #97
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so how many units are they estimating it sold?

if i HAD to guess, i'd say 130,000

if that debuts at #2, then i'd say week 2 would be something like #27.

6-10 years ago 130k would have placed you #8 or #9 in the charts.

 
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Old 07-17-2007, 09:17 PM   #98
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6-10 years ago 130k would have placed you #8 or #9 in the charts.
130k today is the equivalent of 250k to 300k 6 or 7 years ago.. so yeah, basically it's a good debut.

 
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Old 07-17-2007, 09:41 PM   #99
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I've noticed that alot of country singers still sell like 4 or 5 million.

probably because their fans don't believe in no daggum computers.

 
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Old 07-17-2007, 09:45 PM   #100
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Update: the final results for Hits Daily Double are now in.....It's at #2!!!! it beat out that stupid pre-teen cunt and interpol. fuck yea.
does it say where bad religion landed? i'm guessing between 45 and 65

 
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Old 07-17-2007, 10:14 PM   #101
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does it say where bad religion landed? i'm guessing between 45 and 65
close enough...it came in at 42

 
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Old 07-17-2007, 10:25 PM   #102
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close enough...it came in at 42
rad!

 
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Old 07-18-2007, 12:46 AM   #103
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so did the us album charts ever come out?

 
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Old 07-18-2007, 01:01 AM   #104
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When is this rap/r&b domination of the charts gonna wane? I can't wait

 
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Old 07-18-2007, 01:52 AM   #105
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When is this rap/r&b domination of the charts gonna wane? I can't wait
sometime after the people that grew up on it lose interest

 
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Old 07-18-2007, 01:55 AM   #106
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Interpol's new album sucks.
its about as bad as Zeitgeist

 
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:09 AM   #107
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Honestly, the musical climate isn't the same as it was in the heydays of SP and I really doubt they will ever become the mainstaple of pop rock culture they were in 1996. Unless Billy undergoes a massive and shameless sellout into mainstream culture (ala Sting or something)--and with the music to match--the popularity he might dream of just won't be there. I feel a slightly different kind of rock music is in fashion amongst youth now.

 
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:00 AM   #108
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I don't particularly feel like Corgan is so concerned with taking back the popularity or the relevance he had back in say '96. I get the impression that BC/JC are simply back to create music and do what they love to do, and in that case, Zeitgeist certainly isn't a bad start.

Also, you have to keep in mind the impact and growing popularity of p2p networks and BitTorrent on the music industry. Over the last decade...

 
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:49 AM   #109
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Zeitgeist #5 in Switzerland

That's damn good. Highest SP peak was Machina with #12

 
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:52 AM   #110
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I'm sure pumpkins fans are all leechers off the internet after Machina II was put out so maybe thatll put their sales much lower than it should be...

 
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Old 07-18-2007, 05:25 AM   #111
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not really surprised about NZ #1 debut actually, it's being marketed to hell and back. i saw a guy pasting up posters for it in mah city (Wellington), and asked him for a couple, and he gave me two.

plus i've seen kids all overr myspace talking about the pumpkins and how they're going out to buy the album soon rahrahrah. it wont be a smash hit but i think it'll be adequate in warner's eyes.

 
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:05 AM   #112
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#1 in canada... so embarrassed for my country.

it will drop fast.

 
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:11 AM   #113
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its about as bad as Zeitgeist
I'd rather listen to Zeitgeist.

 
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:29 AM   #114
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Still hoping to see a #1 US debut. That's enough to tell us that people are ignoring the bad review and buying the disc anyway. It also must mean that there is a large influx of new, young fans or that there has been a reawakening of the fans from the SD/MCIS era.

I am actually quite surprised by how much of a comeback this really is. I mean, yeah, people are trying to sink their teeth into Billy, the band, and the album at every opportunity (even by fans with nothing better to do than pine for an SD2), but they are getting a lot of TV time, radio play, news and web coverage, and they are part of the public discourse for the first time in a long time. People are talking about the Pumpkins.

Just yesterday I was walking down to a bar here in Cleveland before the Indians game and I was talking to a friend about the album a little bit, and right as we walked into the bar, what should be playing but "Tarantula."

Love it or hate it, Zeitgeist IS leaving a mark. People are paying more attention to the Pumpkins that they have since 1997 when they won that VMA.

 
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:40 AM   #115
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Last week's #1 sold over 460,000 copies. That's insane. If Zeitgeist does that in the first month I'd be delighted.

 
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:45 AM   #116
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So is the dailydouble number and #2 debut official or not?
I would be pissed if Bon Jovi outsells them opening week. (Yeah, Billy would definitely be 'Jovied' then)

 
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:50 AM   #117
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http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/bla...wsitemID=77025

 
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:54 AM   #118
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So it didn't even break 150K mark... Compared with sales of Tool, RHCP, NIN and BON JOVI, it looks pretty weak. It will be a long way to Gold.

 
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:59 AM   #119
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For the lazy:

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SMASHING PUMPKINS' "Zeitgeist" sold 145,000 copies in the United States during its first week of release to debut at position No. 2 on The Billboard 200 chart.

"Zeitgeist" contains the first new music under the PUMPKINS banner since frontman Billy Corgan disbanded the group in late 2000.

Corgan and drummer Jimmy Chamberlin are the only original PUMPKINS members in this lineup, which introduces new guitarist Jeff Schroeder, bassist Ginger Reyes and keyboardist Lisa Harriton. None of them played on the album, however.

The following are notable heavy metal/hard rock U.S. sales debuts for the week ending July 15, 2007, as reported by Nielsen SoundScan (all CD figures are rounded to the nearest thousand except those under 7,000, which are rounded to the nearest hundred; The Billboard 200 chart position *******d, where applicable):

SMASHING PUMPKINS - "Zeitgeist": 145,000 (#2)
BAD RELIGION – "New Maps of Hell": 21,000 (#35)
DARKEST HOUR – "Deliver Us": 6,600 (#110)
DANZIG – "The Lost Tracks of Danzig": 4,600 (#164)
NILE - "Legacy of the Catacombs": 800
BEATALLICA - "Sgt. Hetfield's Motorbreath Pub Band": 800
#2 in America.
So what went #1?

Also, how many album sales were fanboys and fangirls buying a second or third copy? There should be an adjusted figure.

 
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:07 AM   #120
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Also, how many album sales were fanboys and fangirls buying a second or third copy? There should be an adjusted figure.
Ugh, it's called 'album sales', not how many people bought the album.
Do you adjust movie boxoffice number for fans watching second or third time too?

 
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