Billy Transferring 60+ Demo tapes for future vinyl release - Page 2

davin · 08-04-2014, 05:27 PM

hmmmmmmm, this seems like perhaps an opportune time to re-engage with Ron via email...and dig up and post all my notes from 'Harvey Keitel circa 92' about the early days, demo tapes found & returned to billy, Lenny, Mike Potential, Joe Shanahan and the like.

then again, i don't want to get sued. so maybe i'll just do nothing instead. good job wpc. you've deterred more awesomeness.

ryanpatrick · 08-04-2014, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by slunken

1. Who is the long-known source?
2. This particular tape is not necessarily going to be the first release, from what I can gather. It's just an example of one of his "60+" demo tapes.

Bob English? I think David Mead got a tracklisting to a longer tape than NEC from him back in the 90s, but googling hasnt turned up much.

davin · 08-04-2014, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Funbags

Who is Ryan?

demo thief extraordinaire. i met him many times in various dark alleyways and vestibules, to exchange demos for bitcoins.

now where's my cash rewards, please.

Zerospaced · 08-04-2014, 08:48 PM

I was just thinking... Billy said 60+ demo tapes. We have what 12 or 13 that have been leaked... that may not even be complete. If everyone works together this could be a really great year.

OldAtHeart · 08-04-2014, 09:31 PM

I'd order this for sure. I passed on the Aegea and will pass on the other instrumental one.

Ram27 · 08-04-2014, 10:32 PM

Yeah this isn't happening

D. · 08-04-2014, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ram27

Yeah this isn't happening

bye june · 08-04-2014, 10:50 PM

I can see a vinyl happening but not a cd release...which is what I want.

It's what I want, Billy.

herzogxyu · 08-05-2014, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by slunken

Oh great starting at the beginning again so he can run out of steam before getting to the good stuff

Metro 2000 Dvd coming out right after that!

March 2019.
of course, the oceania super cd/blu ray 5.1 surround remix re-imagining by my chemical romance, will have to come first.

herzogxyu · 08-05-2014, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

this reminds me of the time when Kerry Brown told me that they had a dozen people working full time on the archives and that as the SPRC would be putting out "more archive material than you could possibly imagine!"

did that literally end up being 6 songs? most of them for free?

redbull · 08-05-2014, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by herzogxyu

did that literally end up being 6 songs? most of them for free?

i think it was 5

MustardLies · 08-05-2014, 12:47 AM

If I remember correctly Drown, Geek USA, Tulips, and Rhinoceros were free downloads. There was also an instrumental Frail and Bedazzled available for pre ordering Gish/SD reissue. Then there was that shitty xmas song. So there were 6 if you count that last one, though I understand why anyone would forget about it.

redbreegull · 08-05-2014, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by bye june

I can see a vinyl happening but not a cd release...which is what I want.

It's what I want, Billy.

come on dude, I'm not trying to be a dick and bust your balls in multiple threads at once about buying CDs, but some damn demo from 1987 is not going to sound significantly better on a cd than if you just downloaded the thing for free. I used to be the same way about owning a physical copy of everything, but just let it go. You'll feel much better and you'll listen to far more music.

pavementtune · 08-05-2014, 01:41 AM

Download the thing for free, huh?
So you tell someone who actually WANTS to buy a new release to pirate a vinyl rip instead?

Shallowed · 08-05-2014, 01:45 AM

Why not both?

pavementtune · 08-05-2014, 01:46 AM

Why not both what? Release it on CD and LP or LP and digital?

Shallowed · 08-05-2014, 01:49 AM

CD and pirating a vinyl rip

pavementtune · 02:24 AM

If the theories (in the Aegea thread) regarding additional releases while the reissue campaign is still running are correct, there won't be a CD release. So paying for one format and pirating another might not be an option.

My favorite releases are vinyl combined with a digital download code. Or what some LPs had, a memory stick packed to the LP. That makes sense to me.

Like this

http://grandgood.com/wordpress/wp-co...lbum-cover.jpg

http://www.recordmemory.com/wp-conte...Edition-C1.jpg

null123 · 08-05-2014, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by slunken

D'arcy?
Chris
Yelena
Linda
Sierra?
Veronicas

Courtney
Sasha
Jessica
Tila

Trotskilicious · 08-05-2014, 04:10 AM

these days when i hear a billy love song come up on my random play i just think he's singing to himself and it makes me chuckle quite a bit

i did this with hummer last night

Esty · 08-05-2014, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by davin

then again, i don't want to get sued.

Pussy. Give them to me and i'll do what you won't.

redbreegull · 08-05-2014, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavementtune

Download the thing for free, huh?
So you tell someone who actually WANTS to buy a new release to pirate a vinyl rip instead?

no no bye june has just expressed an excessive attachment to the CD format that I don't understand. I don't think Billy's analog demos from the 80s will have an audible quality difference between buying the thing on CD and just pirating it in mp3. I wasn't saying he/she should download a lossless vinyl rip necessarily, because what was expressed in the other thread is that the love of CDs is based on wanting to own a physical copy that is portable.

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Originally Posted by pavementtune

My favorite releases are vinyl combined with a digital download code.

yes, I agree this is the best way to buy a release. Aegea or these demos may not come with one, but someone somewhere will rip the thing and pirate it.

Shallowed · 08-05-2014, 10:57 AM

You're one to talk about excessive attachment to a format

Funbags · 08-05-2014, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davin

demo thief extraordinaire. i met him many times in various dark alleyways and vestibules, to exchange demos for bitcoins.

now where's my cash rewards, please.

Then why is he mixing Billy's old stash?

HOW DEEP IS THIS RABBIT HOLE?

bye june · 08-05-2014, 11:07 AM

I wasn't talking about sound difference, I just feel like CDs are a 3-in-1. A physical copy, compatible with my car and I can have the songs on my computer just like downloads.

If Billy released the demos himself as a free download I would go for that too.

bye june · 08-05-2014, 11:13 AM

I don't sit and listen to vinyls and downloads irritate me.
I just prefer cds when the option is available at a reasonable price.

bye june · 08-05-2014, 11:50 AM

If that was the only option yo

pavementtune · 08-05-2014, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redbreegull

no no bye june has just expressed an excessive attachment to the CD format that I don't understand. I don't think Billy's analog demos from the 80s will have an audible quality difference between buying the thing on CD and just pirating it in mp3. I wasn't saying he/she should download a lossless vinyl rip necessarily, because what was expressed in the other thread is that the love of CDs is based on wanting to own a physical copy that is portable.

yes, I agree this is the best way to buy a release. Aegea or these demos may not come with one, but someone somewhere will rip the thing and pirate it.

ah okay, I misunderstood you.
rip of Aegea already happened, but really, I'm not sure what the appeal is. Curiosity? I get that, listen through it once to hear what it's all about. But other than that?
Are you listening to vinyl rips often if any other format is available?

redbreegull · 08-05-2014, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavementtune

ah okay, I misunderstood you.
rip of Aegea already happened, but really, I'm not sure what the appeal is. Curiosity? I get that, listen through it once to hear what it's all about. But other than that?
Are you listening to vinyl rips often if any other format is available?

yeah my bad, I was unclear because I was giving him a hard time about CDs for a different reason in the other thread. I also did not know that there was an Aegea rip because I am so out of touch with Billy's goings on at this point

almost all the music I consume is just pirated mp3s that I listen to through my macbook speakers or burn to a CD for the car. I like to listen to a lot of different things and often only listen to something once or twice. When I buy music, it's usually because I already know I like something a lot and will continue to listen to it in years to come.

pavementtune · 08-05-2014, 12:10 PM

argh. okay.
imagine I went on a one page rant about pirating music and films/hurting the industry/not value it enough to spend money on/"consuming" it.
Then we'll argue back and forth for a bit, I'll keep ranting, maybe throw in a few insults, you'll keep pirating, and all is good.

08-05-2014, 02:16 AM	#48
pavementtune ************** Location: I'm a quitter. I come from a long line of quitters. It's amazing I'm here at all. Posts: 8,661	If the theories (in the Aegea thread) regarding additional releases while the reissue campaign is still running are correct, there won't be a CD release. So paying for one format and pirating another might not be an option. My favorite releases are vinyl combined with a digital download code. Or what some LPs had, a memory stick packed to the LP. That makes sense to me. Like this http://grandgood.com/wordpress/wp-co...lbum-cover.jpg http://www.recordmemory.com/wp-conte...Edition-C1.jpg Last edited by pavementtune : 08-05-2014 at 02:24 AM.

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08-04-2014, 05:27 PM	#31
davin Physiopathic Paralysis Location: Carcosa Posts: 10,701	hmmmmmmm, this seems like perhaps an opportune time to re-engage with Ron via email...and dig up and post all my notes from 'Harvey Keitel circa 92' about the early days, demo tapes found & returned to billy, Lenny, Mike Potential, Joe Shanahan and the like. then again, i don't want to get sued. so maybe i'll just do nothing instead. good job wpc. you've deterred more awesomeness.

08-04-2014, 08:48 PM	#34
Zerospaced Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,344	I was just thinking... Billy said 60+ demo tapes. We have what 12 or 13 that have been leaked... that may not even be complete. If everyone works together this could be a really great year.

08-04-2014, 09:31 PM	#35
OldAtHeart Oblivious Virgin Posts: 32	I'd order this for sure. I passed on the Aegea and will pass on the other instrumental one.

08-04-2014, 10:32 PM	#36
Ram27 dumb Location: $8.6 million embezzled funds Posts: 11,365	Yeah this isn't happening

08-04-2014, 10:50 PM	#38
bye june Ownz Location: Sadlands Posts: 930	I can see a vinyl happening but not a cd release...which is what I want. It's what I want, Billy.

08-05-2014, 12:47 AM	#42
MustardLies Pledge Posts: 207	If I remember correctly Drown, Geek USA, Tulips, and Rhinoceros were free downloads. There was also an instrumental Frail and Bedazzled available for pre ordering Gish/SD reissue. Then there was that shitty xmas song. So there were 6 if you count that last one, though I understand why anyone would forget about it.

08-05-2014, 01:41 AM	#44
pavementtune ************** Location: I'm a quitter. I come from a long line of quitters. It's amazing I'm here at all. Posts: 8,661	Download the thing for free, huh? So you tell someone who actually WANTS to buy a new release to pirate a vinyl rip instead?

08-05-2014, 01:45 AM	#45
Shallowed Braindead Posts: 18,608	Why not both?

08-05-2014, 01:46 AM	#46
pavementtune ************** Location: I'm a quitter. I come from a long line of quitters. It's amazing I'm here at all. Posts: 8,661	Why not both what? Release it on CD and LP or LP and digital?

08-05-2014, 01:49 AM	#47
Shallowed Braindead Posts: 18,608	CD and pirating a vinyl rip

08-05-2014, 04:10 AM	#50
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,439	these days when i hear a billy love song come up on my random play i just think he's singing to himself and it makes me chuckle quite a bit i did this with hummer last night

08-05-2014, 10:57 AM	#53
Shallowed Braindead Posts: 18,608	You're one to talk about excessive attachment to a format

08-05-2014, 11:07 AM	#55
bye june Ownz Location: Sadlands Posts: 930	I wasn't talking about sound difference, I just feel like CDs are a 3-in-1. A physical copy, compatible with my car and I can have the songs on my computer just like downloads. If Billy released the demos himself as a free download I would go for that too.

08-05-2014, 11:13 AM	#56
bye june Ownz Location: Sadlands Posts: 930	I don't sit and listen to vinyls and downloads irritate me. I just prefer cds when the option is available at a reasonable price.

08-05-2014, 11:50 AM	#57
bye june Ownz Location: Sadlands Posts: 930	If that was the only option yo

08-05-2014, 12:10 PM	#60
pavementtune ************** Location: I'm a quitter. I come from a long line of quitters. It's amazing I'm here at all. Posts: 8,661	argh. okay. imagine I went on a one page rant about pirating music and films/hurting the industry/not value it enough to spend money on/"consuming" it. Then we'll argue back and forth for a bit, I'll keep ranting, maybe throw in a few insults, you'll keep pirating, and all is good.