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Old 03-26-2020, 10:11 AM   #2281
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Old 03-26-2020, 10:12 AM   #2282
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Old 03-29-2020, 10:58 AM   #2283
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Holy shit we just found Machina II on vinyl. Apparently only 500 were pressed. It sounds *amazing*
I just pulled the trigger and also got me one of those red vinyl boots. I'll take pictures once it gets here.

 
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Old 03-29-2020, 11:04 AM   #2284
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Old 03-29-2020, 11:16 AM   #2285
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Old 03-29-2020, 11:21 AM   #2286
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I just pulled the trigger and also got me one of those red vinyl boots. I'll take pictures once it gets here.
i think it looks terrible.
and what's with all the random tracks added at the end?

 
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Old 03-29-2020, 12:07 PM   #2287
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Imagine commercially releasing Machina twice and both times leaving Slow Dawn, Go and Vanity off the record.

Put money on it: Billy Corgan.

 
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Old 03-29-2020, 12:20 PM   #2288
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Imagine having a shitty version of someone else's avatar and refusing to change it.

Put money on it: Woddy.

 
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Old 03-29-2020, 12:22 PM   #2289
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I mean what do I need to do to get you to change it?

Beg? Cry? Rim your dad?

 
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Old 03-29-2020, 12:32 PM   #2290
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i think it looks terrible.
and what's with all the random tracks added at the end?
I have no damn idea.

I can get adding the FAEOMM tape I guess, more Machina outtakes in the same vein, but a bunch of stuff from Bowie's 50th birthday fest?

Anyway, I wouldn't hold my breath for all the MII versions of the songs making it to the reissue, if that ever happens, and from what I gather it sounds good, which is enough for me.

 
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Old 03-29-2020, 01:34 PM   #2291
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I mean what do I need to do to get you to change it?

Beg? Cry? Rim your dad?
Cool, I’ll change it when the Machina reissue is released. Relax it won’t be long...

 
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Old 03-29-2020, 01:42 PM   #2292
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Old 03-31-2020, 09:04 PM   #2293
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i'm worried this will be all too accurate of what's in store for us

 
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Old 03-31-2020, 09:22 PM   #2294
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i'm worried you actually think "Regret" by New Order is a bad track

 
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Old 03-31-2020, 09:44 PM   #2295
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Old 03-31-2020, 09:46 PM   #2296
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Old 03-31-2020, 11:08 PM   #2297
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i'm worried you actually think "Regret" by New Order is a bad track
what? it's in the top 5 easily, could be my fav.

that video though... hurts real bad.

 
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Old 04-01-2020, 01:04 AM   #2298
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it's gonna be ok, dude

just take a deep breath or two, drink a beer, and forget about it

ok?

 
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Old 04-03-2020, 06:07 AM   #2299
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Didn't he recently say he's currently 'transferring the masters'? Which I assume means transferring the original tape masters to digital for remastering. Which means it's still ages away.
Think this means he's sent Jimmy and Jeff to a lockup with a truck and they will eventually drive the mastertapes back to Castle O'Corgan, once Jimmy comes down off a drugs binge.

 
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Old 04-03-2020, 03:19 PM   #2300
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Old 04-04-2020, 04:05 AM   #2301
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i have pretty much no hope left for an unfucked with digital m2 at this point anymore... maybe 5 tracks at most, the rest will be demos or remixes or reimagined versions or re-whatevered bullshit.

 
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Old 04-04-2020, 06:46 AM   #2302
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Old 04-04-2020, 10:25 AM   #2303
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Gah, he's remixing This Time?

Nobody gives a fuck about including 8 versions of Blue Skies Billy!

 
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Old 04-04-2020, 11:54 AM   #2304
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This Time is one of the best sounding trax....

+++ on BSBT. I don't understand the effort and love given to that song! It's fairly shitty in all it's incarnations, besides maybe the Arising version

I do not need to hear BSBT blues shuffle version BT reimagined 2021, or BSBT sadlands pumpkin noise outtake iha vocals polka version 2

 
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Old 04-04-2020, 01:46 PM   #2305
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i have pretty much no hope left for an unfucked with digital m2 at this point anymore... maybe 5 tracks at most, the rest will be demos or remixes or reimagined versions or re-whatevered bullshit.
Machina II pretty much always was a bunch of demos in various states of completion and was never meant to sound like that. By definition it needs to be fucked with.

Le Deux Machina was literally on machina acoustic demos

They already re-did the drums for White Spyder

Anyone who thinks the irritating-ass police sirens were supposed to be that far up front in the mix in Try v1 is on crack

Your best bet is to basically cull those tracks in whatever form they're on from the finished thing, really

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Old 04-04-2020, 01:47 PM   #2306
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Very little is going to sound like it did on MI or MII and that is either the reason one should look forward to this thing or dread its approach

 
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Old 04-04-2020, 02:27 PM   #2307
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i like the fact that the synth is at the volume it's at on Try v1, tbh

it's part of what gives that one its own character in comparison to the official version

 
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Old 04-04-2020, 02:56 PM   #2308
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+++ on BSBT. I don't understand the effort and love given to that song! It's fairly shitty in all it's incarnations, besides maybe the Arising version
besides maybe????


rambro i think this is the end of "us"

 
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This Time is one of the best sounding trax....

+++ on BSBT. I don't understand the effort and love given to that song! It's fairly shitty in all it's incarnations, besides maybe the Arising version

I do not need to hear BSBT blues shuffle version BT reimagined 2021, or BSBT sadlands pumpkin noise outtake iha vocals polka version 2
It's a genuine puzzler. Then Again Corgan rarely plays any of the good stuff from Machina yet really likes to play even shittier versions of BSBT, HMM and GatGC than made it to the album. Actually, the first section of GatGC is really good but that gets mangled live. The last time I heard them play it, it was almost unrecognizable, and not in a good way. Funnily enough they played Cash Car Star and Wound at one show and I genuinely had no idea what they were playing, though in fairness the sound went awry and the mix was muddy as fuck. Billy probably liked it!

 
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Machina II pretty much always was a bunch of demos in various states of completion and was never meant to sound like that.
why release the digital m2 versions of try, real love, lucky 13, and slow dawn without any changes then? i don't buy that.

but billy's arrangement taste and mixing taste have changed a lot in 20 years, so fucking them over for the reissue is pretty much guaranteed.

 
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