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02-28-2015, 11:30 PM | #61 | |
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how would you feel if you clicked on a link on yahoo, or whatever you usually go to, and uh oh you need to pay a premium to go here. that's the precedent it sets also you're on the side of lobbyists pouring money into the likes of ted cruz and john thune, fwiw |
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02-28-2015, 11:41 PM | #62 |
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The selective skepticism is so weird. Total trust in ISP's to do the right thing unregulated but no faith in the government whatsoever to do almost anything ever
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03-01-2015, 09:03 AM | #63 | |
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Convince me that this is even remotely in the realm of possibility. This is wild speculation and does little to convince me that net neutrality isn't about solving a problem that doesn't actually exist. |
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03-01-2015, 09:51 AM | #64 |
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Yeah I mean who charges for micro transactions nowadays instead of a subscription program?
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03-01-2015, 10:14 AM | #65 |
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There are "several" ISPs
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03-01-2015, 10:39 AM | #66 |
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03-01-2015, 11:17 AM | #67 | |
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NN isn't about "solving problems". what we have now *is* NN. if you'd rather have comcast, att, ect as arbiters of the internet, as opposed to now, where there essentially are none, then more power to you. but don't pretend like it wouldn't be a fundamental change |
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03-01-2015, 11:41 AM | #68 |
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Basically what they would do is slow everyone's internet down and charge for a "faster" internet which would be the internet we have right now and there's nothing consumers would be able to do about it because the nature of utilities leads to very little competition
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03-01-2015, 03:19 PM | #69 | ||
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I mean, I'm normally the first person against reactive legislation once a problem already happens. I am also deeply concerned about ISP power. But I am thinking practically here, and I just don't see the concrete argument. |
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03-01-2015, 03:20 PM | #70 | |
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03-01-2015, 03:22 PM | #71 |
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03-01-2015, 03:36 PM | #72 |
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laws are to regulate what *might* happen. if the FCC allowed ISPs to not treat the internet as a public utility, its not some pie-in-the-sky assertion to suggest that they wouldn't
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03-01-2015, 03:56 PM | #73 |
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When have businesses every pushed the limits of morality to abuse people and squeeze every last single hard-earned penny out of them? Come on guys.
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03-01-2015, 03:57 PM | #74 |
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Why have laws that prevent poisoning people? Businesses would never do that.
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03-01-2015, 03:57 PM | #75 |
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Why have laws that prevent abusing workers? Businesses would never do that.
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03-01-2015, 04:00 PM | #76 |
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The burden of creating another WHOLE law, people. Oh the agony.
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03-01-2015, 04:38 PM | #77 |
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03-01-2015, 04:42 PM | #78 |
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03-01-2015, 04:44 PM | #79 | |
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Maybe me just accepting a lower bandwidth would make them more money. Just playing devil's advocate |
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03-01-2015, 04:45 PM | #80 |
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I can't say I'm shocked that jczeroman supports a policy that disproportionately benefits rich people.
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03-01-2015, 04:46 PM | #81 | |
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Look at cable television. Should the Internet be like that? |
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03-01-2015, 04:48 PM | #82 |
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The problem is, as I said, the nature of utilities leads to monopolies which is what we have with ISP's
You get like two choices in some places not even that. And Internet has become essential to practically every household. You simply would have no other choice than to get screwed |
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03-01-2015, 04:48 PM | #83 |
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It is a little weird that he thinks it's bizarro world that an ISP would look into taking advantage of something like this.
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03-01-2015, 04:50 PM | #84 |
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03-01-2015, 08:41 PM | #86 |
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03-01-2015, 08:54 PM | #87 |
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um.. it is a problem. why do you think telecoms were pouring millions into lobbyists and lawsuits. to keep the status quo?
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03-01-2015, 09:42 PM | #88 |
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have you guys noticed that dr ron swanson here consistently struggles with understanding current events?
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03-01-2015, 10:00 PM | #89 | |
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Net Neutrality: the mere term is doublespeak dressed as a psy-op. funneh how the same crowd wooed by "Yes We Can" and Obamacare fall in line on this one, without reading what the 300+ page document reveals. suckers... |
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03-01-2015, 10:17 PM | #90 |
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we need to make a macro for him where he can argue for one side, another where he'll concede said side is wrong, the next where he somehow manages to extrapolate on how BOTH SIDES are wrong and we're idiots for taking a side and a final one where he takes his ball and goes home
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