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10-03-2007, 04:21 PM | #1 |
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First US trial over illegal music downloads opens
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1
In the first US trial to challenge fines levied by music companies for sharing copyrighted music online, a single mother from Minnesota has gone to court to prove she did nothing wrong. Jammie Thomas is the first among more than 26,000 people sued by the world's most powerful recording companies to refuse a settlement after being slapped with a lawsuit by the Recording Industry of America and seven major music labels. Unlike some who insist on the right to share files over the Internet, Thomas says she was wrongfully targeted by SafeNet, a contractor employed by the recording industry to patrol the Internet for copyrighted material. "I did not download or upload any music, period," Thomas, 30, said outside the federal courthouse in Duluth, where a 12-member jury was empanelled Tuesday. Instead of paying a few thousand dollars to settle the suit, Thomas will spend upwards of 60,000 dollars in attorney's fees because she refuses to be bullied, her lawyer said. "No one can prove which computer actually did this," defense attorney Brian Toder said in his opening statement. He argued that someone else could have easily hijacked her Internet address in order to upload songs on the Kazaa file sharing network. But industry lawyers said there is clear evidence that Thomas, an employee of the Mille Lacs Band of Ojibwe, a native American Indian tribe, shared more than 1,700 songs with potentially millions of computer users. "Piracy is a tremendous problem affecting the music industry," said the first witness, Jennifer Pariser, head of litigation and anti-piracy for Sony BMG Music Entertainment, the second-largest record company in the world. "It has caused billions of dollars in harm in the past four or five years." Rather than pursue Thomas for all 1,072 songs in the public folder found on Kazaa, she is being sued for sharing just 25 songs by Virgin Records, Capitol Records, Sony BMG Music Entertainment, Arista Records, Interscope Records, Warner Brothers Records and UMG Recordings Inc. But her liability for allegedly sharing Godsmack's "Spiral," Destiny's Child's "Bills, Bills, Bills," Sara McLachlan's "Building a Mystery" and others could be as high as 150,000 dollars a song if the jury finds "willful" copyright infringement. funny stuff! |
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10-03-2007, 04:29 PM | #2 |
CORNFROST
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Do you pay mah innernet bills?
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10-03-2007, 04:30 PM | #3 |
Braindead
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it's pretty obvious that downloading is harmless and uploading is too, as long as it isn't major label material
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10-03-2007, 04:48 PM | #4 |
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this is why you should just leech.
and kazaa? c'mon, at least use limewire if you are gunna P2P inept. |
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10-03-2007, 05:09 PM | #5 | |
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Jammie Thomas and her lawyer Brian Toder talk outside the federal courthouse in Duluth on Tuesday. Thomas is accused by the recording industry of sharing music online in violation of copyrights. Quote:
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10-03-2007, 05:09 PM | #6 | |
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Looks like she isn't doing a great job explaining herself:
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10-03-2007, 05:17 PM | #7 |
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her name is jammie?! What the fuck are people calling their kids these days, this reminds me of my uncle marmalade.
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10-03-2007, 05:24 PM | #8 |
Braindead
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hahahaha that lawyer knew exactly what he was doing when he took this case.
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10-03-2007, 06:57 PM | #9 | |
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10-03-2007, 07:02 PM | #10 |
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this woman is LYING
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10-04-2007, 05:49 AM | #11 | |
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10-04-2007, 06:34 AM | #12 |
Through Silver In Buds
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i love the internet. people invent a new way to do something that was previously illegal.
Record Company: 'stop that!' People: 'why? it's not illegal' Record Company: 'it only just started to exist! we'll make it illegal!' People: 'you cant do that! it wasnt illegal before!' |
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10-04-2007, 06:37 AM | #13 |
Braindead
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since when do record companies make things illegal
jczeroman to thread |
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10-04-2007, 06:51 AM | #14 |
Braindead
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follow the money, rockin bub.
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10-04-2007, 11:51 AM | #15 | |
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10-04-2007, 12:51 PM | #16 | |
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Case is at jury. Some more specifics of the trial:
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Ugh. I was really hoping this was a case of someone mistakenly being singled out (a la people that are dead), but the more I read, the more it seems she's busted. |
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10-04-2007, 05:28 PM | #17 | |
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And if she replaced her hard drive before they sent a letter of intent, it's hard to say that she did it to destroy evidence, unless they warned her by IM way in advance. Still, she's basically blown it |
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10-04-2007, 05:55 PM | #18 |
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anybody who listens to drowning pool deserves this
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10-04-2007, 06:01 PM | #19 |
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Great trial coverage here.
Verdict is in and she lost. She is ordered to pay $9,250 per song for the 24 songs contested for a total of $222,000. The RIAA were handed this victory by the defense's "prove it" approach while offering no other defense. The one's that needed to go to trial are the ones who are dead, old, or don't own a computer. A shame this was the first. |
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10-05-2007, 11:18 AM | #20 |
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thats a pretty steep fine if you ask me. the problem is more that she shared the files.....as i understand the law.
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10-05-2007, 01:51 PM | #21 | |
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If intellectual property rights do exist, then people downloading music are abridging the principle in general, regardless of whether there is some specific law. The 35% that is still hesitant is mostly my own sense of guilt about downloading music/applications when, on rare occasion, I do. It "feels" wrong in my gut - but this may be because of a life-time of conditioning in a positive intellectual property rights world. |
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10-05-2007, 02:23 PM | #22 |
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poor lady
that actually made me sad that she's going to have to pay 60,000 dollars on fucking lawyers just for doing, or not doing - depends what you believe- what literally everyone on earth does. |
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10-05-2007, 02:53 PM | #23 |
Fine! I'll go make my own
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Its not like they will ever collect even a fraction of that money from her.
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10-05-2007, 03:04 PM | #24 | |
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10-05-2007, 03:13 PM | #25 | |
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this applies to kids in third world countries as well. http://forums.netphoria.org/wwwboard/icons/icon14.gif |
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10-05-2007, 03:35 PM | #26 |
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holy shit.
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