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Old 06-12-2012, 12:54 AM   #121
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This is a good album. Wow.

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:54 AM   #122
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Pale Horse and Inkless

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:55 AM   #123
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that basstone in "the celestials" on the second verse is so crisp

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:56 AM   #124
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I like how exactlythesame and I are at the same song, at the same time.

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:56 AM   #125
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panopticon would be a great song without the soulless drumming. learn some dynamics, jerk
byrne really is a jerk. probably couldnt flip his burgers in time. ive never heard him not play at least a few BPMs fast, and he's incredibly boring as all hell. nothing a all interesting about anything he tries to do

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:57 AM   #126
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I'm usually the first to defend the new Pumpkins...I actually liked Zeitgeist...but I'm about halfway through Oceania and I'm just not liking it. At all. The songs sound half-assed but over-produced and Billy has zero emotion in his vocals.

I hate to say it, as I have always given Billy the benefit of the doubt, but unless the last 4 songs are amazing, this album is just not good. I think the problem is the "best album since MCIS" hype. This is NOT better than anything the Pumpkins have released.

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:59 AM   #127
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I'm usually the first to defend the new Pumpkins...I actually liked Zeitgeist...but I'm about halfway through Oceania and I'm just not liking it. At all. The songs sound half-assed but over-produced and Billy has zero emotion in his vocals.

I hate to say it, as I have always given Billy the benefit of the doubt, but unless the last 4 songs are amazing, this album is just not good. I think the problem is the "best album since MCIS" hype. This is NOT better than anything the Pumpkins have released.
cool story, sis

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:59 AM   #128
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so is this actually worth listening to

in order for me to verify your response please list your 10 favorite albums

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:04 AM   #129
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violet rays so good.

MLIW is p. good, solo is getting me.

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:05 AM   #130
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I'm usually the first to defend the new Pumpkins...I actually liked Zeitgeist...but I'm about halfway through Oceania and I'm just not liking it. At all. The songs sound half-assed but over-produced and Billy has zero emotion in his vocals.

I hate to say it, as I have always given Billy the benefit of the doubt, but unless the last 4 songs are amazing, this album is just not good. I think the problem is the "best album since MCIS" hype. This is NOT better than anything the Pumpkins have released.
lol you are so wrong

and your opinion is so invalid by saying you liked zeitgeist

the music could suck balls but the vocals, production and the Pumpkins buzz saw actually sounding like the Pumpkins buzz saw makes this better than zeitgeist

and since i fucking hated adore

this is easily the best thing corgan's done since mellon collie

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:05 AM   #131
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That soloing throughout the entirety of quasar is really fucking annoying. And of course, god awful dynamics from the drums. They actually, production wise, increase the volume knob on his snare drum roll, rather than having him actually play the swell naturally.. It's cheap. Jimmy could do that in one take, hack. If you're going to try to sound like jimmy, then fucking play like him.

That's song one. Not looking good.

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:07 AM   #132
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Can't get past the terrible drumming on song two. Just bullshit fills and no damn essence.

Not worth listening to, trots. But just do it for the hell of it.

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:08 AM   #133
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haha, one diamond one heart is so much nicer to listen to without byrne fucking it up

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:08 AM   #134
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omg stfu on the fucking drumming complaints

if you don't like it deal with it

he's not fucking neil peart

if you really find byrne that intolerable get the fuck out

this is like the only place with people who think he's absolutely intolerable

panopticon is so good, by the way

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:09 AM   #135
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lol you are so wrong

and your opinion is so invalid by saying you liked zeitgeist

the music could suck balls but the vocals, production and the Pumpkins buzz saw actually sounding like the Pumpkins buzz saw makes this better than zeitgeist

and since i fucking hated adore

this is easily the best thing corgan's done since mellon collie
You're right. My opinion of this album is incorrect.

In any case...you really think this is better than Adore?

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:09 AM   #136
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If you're going to try to sound like jimmy, then fucking play like him.
is this the problem with mikey b really because that's like when Morrissey hired a guy to play like johnny marr which is LOL

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:10 AM   #137
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omg stfu on the fucking drumming complaints

if you don't like it deal with it

he's not fucking neil peart

if you really find byrne that intolerable get the fuck out

this is like the only place with people who think he's absolutely intolerable

panopticon is so good, by the way
gtfo.

this isn't your board

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:10 AM   #138
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You're right. My opinion of this album is incorrect.

In any case...you really think this is better than Adore?
yeah, because adore really was intolerable for half of the album and incredibly overlong

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:11 AM   #139
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if you think anyone can play like one of the five best drummers since the dawn of punk rock, if not all time, then your expectations will never be fulfilled.

morrissey's short lived johnny marr replacement is a great example of that. you'll never find another guy that good.

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:11 AM   #140
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I'm waiting to listen to this until tomorrow, when I can hear it with billy

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:11 AM   #141
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gtfo.

this isn't your board
did i say it was my board?

i don't understand why people continue to post here who think he's the worst thing ever

or listen to oceania at all.

u know what byrne is going to sound like

deal with it

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:11 AM   #142
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this album would be really good without the drumming. i cannot simply get over how terrible he is. it's insulting to anyone who takes the time to listen to drumz instead of just melting all the instrument takes into one listen and saying "he's soooo good and fast!!" fuck, i hate it.

it's actually quite good, but because of the drum tracks, it's probably unlistenable now.

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:12 AM   #143
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omg stfu on the fucking drumming complaints

if you don't like it deal with it

he's not fucking neil peart

if you really find byrne that intolerable get the fuck out

this is like the only place with people who think he's absolutely intolerable

panopticon is so good, by the way
have you ever listened to a drum kit being played well

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:12 AM   #144
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Can someone upload a rip that doesn't have the echo on it?

Thank you.

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:12 AM   #145
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I'm waiting to listen to this until tomorrow, when I can hear it with billy
you're scott cummings rite

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:14 AM   #146
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have you ever listened to a drum kit being played well
i'd much rather have the drums take a back seat to the music rather than sound detached from the music like zeitgeist did

and yeah, rush is my favorite band

so obviously i've heard good drumming

byrne is a C+ drummer

deal with it

many good albums have bad musicians playing on them

like iha playing on mellon collie

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:15 AM   #147
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Can someone upload a rip that doesn't have the echo on it?

Thank you.
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I appreciate the upload... But did the OP purposely put echo on this or is this just how the I tunes stream sounds?

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:15 AM   #148
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Tomorrow on lake michigan!

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:16 AM   #149
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I love jimmy but I also liked adore.. There were some great drum tracks on that record. How'd that happen? Good drummers were hired. Mike is just not a good drummer. No sense of what thefuck he's doing at all. He even makes straight eight notes sound like soulless out of time shit. See his 6/8 feel on violet rays. It's awful.

 
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:16 AM   #150
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yeah sure, iha wasnt that great i know

peart's pretty damn good, you should know better.

why even bother putting out an album with something so bad though? i thought billy was good about that.

the options on byrnes contract must be team friendly

 
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