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Old 04-17-2012, 06:55 PM   #91
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I understand why a lot of people may not care to see it now, after all this time, and all the various things Billy has done to tarnish the legacy these past 12 years. But to me it's just a fascinating time capsule that I'd like to re-live, especially if it's loaded up with extras like all the fan-related events.

I may feel differently if I weren't there, or if I didn't get into the club on that final night under such unlikely circumstances, but I can't be sure. There's a lot of sentimentality tied up in that week of flying to Chicago, meeting lots of new people, going to weird parties (the Lab), late night sing-a-longs taking over entire hotel floors. Hey, I was 20 years old, ya know? That shit meant something, and still does in my memory. That show signified the death of the band we grew up with and for many of us the death of our youths, so yeah, why wouldn't I want to relive such a transitional, transformational phase of life?

Billy can call his current band whatever he wants but to me Smashing Pumpkins played their last show on December 2, 2000. Billy fucking around with various projects and incarnations since in no way dulls the emotional interest for me in seeing that show again, because for me, that really was their last show. It really was the "last gasp" of what the band was, and in a way that's proven to be prophetic because even if you didn't like Machina, at least that show and everything leading up to it encapsulated the energy and direction of that moment in a way that felt like a real bookend to what the band was.

Zeitgeist was a total failure but at least it consciously rid itself of those old clothes, so there was no confusion for me in seeing that Billy's band in 2007 wasn't anything like Smashing Pumpkins. The muse just wasn't there, because it died in 2000.

Oh, and just because some of us want to finally see this show doesn't mean we didn't move on or listen to new music over the past decade. I'd only been to a handful of shows, too, at that point in my life, and now after seeing countless others since, that show still holds my attention in memory. It's just a personal thing, I guess. I get it if others don't feel the same.

 
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Old 04-17-2012, 07:06 PM   #92
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Old 04-17-2012, 09:45 PM   #93
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at this point i'd rather put together a bunch of different stories from that night with other attendees and write a teen movie script loosely based off it.

but i'd like to see a blu ray of the show. seeing a glint of myself in the front row when watching the fuck you performance for the first time a year after the show gave me butterflies. the whole show would just make me puke, in a good way.

 
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Old 04-18-2012, 11:57 AM   #94
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It'd be pretty rad to see the footage Becca is filming in the top picture.

 
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Old 04-18-2012, 12:29 PM   #95
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Old 04-18-2012, 12:44 PM   #96
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i'm sure it's mega cringe-worthy! i'd like to see it, but definitely "among friends," y'know. not for public consumption. ha.

 
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Old 04-18-2012, 03:08 PM   #97
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Haha, I guess you're right...

 
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Old 04-18-2012, 03:18 PM   #98
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memories are better than videotape

 
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:24 PM   #99
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can someone link to more info or provide more about this show with a d'arcy drug freakout?
audio of this would be particularly awesome

 
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Old 04-19-2012, 09:12 AM   #100
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-Darcy's drug addiction causes her to freak the fuck out during the Roxy show in '99(I can personally attest to this, I was there), and hastily quits the band that very night, making the Roxy show the final time the 4 original members were together.
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can someone link to more info or provide more about this show with a d'arcy drug freakout?
audio of this would be particularly awesome
Entire show audio: http://archive.org/details/tsp1999-04-24.csbmod

Plenty of awkward D'arcy banter, dunno about a freakout though; maybe Reyngel can point out exactly what he was referring to?

 
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Old 04-19-2012, 09:35 AM   #101
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http://www.splra.org/wiki/index.php?title=Tsp1999-04-24

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Corgan: Thank you very much, good evening thank you very much, thank you. We'd now like to take this moment to welcome you and introduce to you our new drummer
Wretzky: He hasn't had much work lately y'know and with the demise of Jim Henson - let's take a moment in prayer - Animal, Animal from The Muppets! Animal! always, he has always been my idol
Corgan: Alright if i fall over keep playing
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Wretzky: Wait a minute I'm really pissed off, this is a stupid two week tour, every night I go over by James and he will not dance with me.. I wanna know why the people want to know why
iha: well...
[Corgan plays I wanna dance under the moonlight (tease)]
iha: I like that song a lot. If the truth be told: during our hiatus after our last album I've been taking swing dance lessons and I haven't quite perfected it yet and i didnt figure the music we were doing suited. Our next album will be a completely swing dance record
[Chamberlin plays swing beat]
Wretzky: yeah yeah, I knew you'd have a good excuse
Iha: We've been listening to a lot of Louie Prima... two shows only tonight Smashing Pumpkins, thank you very much. We're gonna go back to an oldie but a goodie... let's rock!
that seems to be all of it, according to splra.org.
if that's all she said, i wouldn't call that plenty, or a freakout.

 
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Old 04-19-2012, 09:57 AM   #102
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sounds like fairly normal banter

 
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:52 AM   #103
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memories are better than videotape
This concept would make a great starting point for a David Lynch movie.

 
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Old 04-19-2012, 01:35 PM   #104
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not Blu-ray Disk (incorrect spelling)
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Old 04-21-2012, 06:05 AM   #105
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That wasn't the freakout. After the show, Darcy stormed off swearing like crazy at the mention of Billy, said she was "done," flipped off all of us fans waiting outside after the show and was sped off alone in a white can, without Billy, James or Jimmy. People at the time all said she was drunk, but in all reality she looked pretty out of it during the show.

Since this was my first SP show, I didn't know if that's just how Darcy behaved or not. But it was cool to see Billy, James and Jimmy at least say hi for a second after the show before they got into a separate truck that came for them.

 
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Old 04-21-2012, 06:57 AM   #106
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sounds like fairly normal banter
for that time, yeah

and definately better than the last 5 years, where all on stage banter consists of billy yelling at fans and the kids on stage keeping their mouths shut out of fear of the boss

 
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Old 04-21-2012, 07:14 AM   #107
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and the kids on stage keeping their mouths shut out of fear of the boss


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Old 04-21-2012, 07:32 AM   #108
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LOL

 
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Old 04-21-2012, 09:19 AM   #109
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for that time, yeah

and definately better than the last 5 years, where all on stage banter consists of billy yelling at fans and the kids on stage keeping their mouths shut out of fear of the boss
i thought you were one of those corgan superfans.

 
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Old 04-21-2012, 01:36 PM   #110
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going to weird parties (the Lab)
I heard that the owner of that place was into getting Cleveland Steamers (or Hot Carls, I can't remember if it was chest or face).

 
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Old 04-21-2012, 01:53 PM   #111
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That wasn't the freakout. After the show, Darcy stormed off swearing like crazy at the mention of Billy, said she was "done," flipped off all of us fans waiting outside after the show and was sped off alone in a white can, without Billy, James or Jimmy. People at the time all said she was drunk, but in all reality she looked pretty out of it during the show.

Since this was my first SP show, I didn't know if that's just how Darcy behaved or not. But it was cool to see Billy, James and Jimmy at least say hi for a second after the show before they got into a separate truck that came for them.
You wrote "during the show" not after it
Shame on you

 
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Old 04-21-2012, 01:53 PM   #112
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Learn how to fuckin communicate

 
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Old 04-21-2012, 04:15 PM   #113
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I heard that the owner of that place
are you sure they owned it

looking back i think maybe they were squatting

 
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Old 04-21-2012, 04:15 PM   #114
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haha get it

 
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Old 04-22-2012, 12:08 PM   #118
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is htat john bo.nsor

 
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Old 04-22-2012, 12:16 PM   #119
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the 2000 metro show will be out on Holodisc in a couple of years mates, aud and vid combined! Some blokes at EMI told me

 
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:27 PM   #120
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is htat john bo.nsor
no its closer to who he wants to be

 
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