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Old 05-26-2014, 02:33 AM   #31
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how you can read those long-winded posts, i will never know

 
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Old 05-26-2014, 02:34 AM   #32
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"noise rock" = basically anything that came out on Amphetamine Reptile, or similar.

 
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Old 05-26-2014, 02:38 AM   #33
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I like it. *shrugs*

Maybe it's more of the attitude that's great. The idea of just recording an hour of straight noise and having the audacity to release it through a label.

It's like when "Modern art" pieces go for thousands of dollars and you're like "Did your 2 year old actually paint that?"

I like Art where you have to go: Is this art or am I just getting fucked with?

 
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Old 05-26-2014, 02:40 AM   #34
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how you can read those long-winded posts, i will never know
Way too much free time. I should get a second job or a gf or something

 
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Old 05-26-2014, 02:43 AM   #35
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I've noticed that bands that often get tagged noise rock are actually grunge revival stuff. Stuff like Speedy Ortiz, Yuck, Joy Formidable.

 
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Old 05-26-2014, 02:46 AM   #36
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I like it. *shrugs*

Maybe it's more of the attitude that's great. The idea of just recording an hour of straight noise and having the audacity to release it through a label.

It's like when "Modern art" pieces go for thousands of dollars and you're like "Did your 2 year old actually paint that?"

I like Art where you have to go: Is this art or am I just getting fucked with?
if you actually listen to avant-garde bands, you really should pick up on the fact that it's not simply about creating noise. and what is the point of 'straight noise'? i cant think of many more stupid ways of approaching music making.

 
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Old 05-26-2014, 02:48 AM   #37
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I feel like having distorted guitars does not at all constitute the label "noise".

Noise should be reserved for just sounds that are meant to be just sounds. No beat or notes.

 
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Old 05-26-2014, 02:50 AM   #38
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well, that's what noise rock is. the genre. 'noise rock'.

Metal Machine does not fall under that label.

 
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Old 05-26-2014, 02:52 AM   #39
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here is a 'noise rock' band


 
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Old 05-26-2014, 02:52 AM   #40
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Yeah. No, you're right

 
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Old 05-26-2014, 02:53 AM   #41
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it's kind of a cool discussion to have i think

 
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Old 05-26-2014, 02:59 AM   #42
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if you actually listen to avant-garde bands, you really should pick up on the fact that it's not simply about creating noise. and what is the point of 'straight noise'? i cant think of many more stupid ways of approaching music making.
The point of straight noise is just to make things that sound alien and unique. Avant garde started when people got bored of the limitations of traditional notes. Shit starts to all sound the same.

So the idea for a lot of disenchanted classical musicians was to just make weird noises and record them. Sometimes there is a point but a lot of the time there wasn't.

And then obviously bands started taking these untraditional sounds and combining them with traditional music. Which made music exciting again.

 
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So the idea for a lot of disenchanted classical musicians was to just make weird noises and record them. Sometimes there is a point but a lot of the time there wasn't.
it's not that simple. John Cage or Stockhausen, for example, didn't record music for 'the sake' of it, or whatever. maybe it's easy to confuse that with the desire for experimentation.

those guys weren't disenchanted at all - they knew exactly what they were trying to achieve.

 
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The point of straight noise is just to make things that sound alien and unique.
that's really the point of avant-garde.

 
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Old 05-26-2014, 09:39 AM   #45
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Is this thread real?

 
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Old 05-26-2014, 02:42 PM   #46
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it's not that simple. John Cage or Stockhausen, for example, didn't record music for 'the sake' of it, or whatever. maybe it's easy to confuse that with the desire for experimentation.

those guys weren't disenchanted at all - they knew exactly what they were trying to achieve.
That's true for those guys. But this isn't noise (as mentioned).

My problem is with noise rock made by often times hipster morons that is just an excuse for people to be in a band and not bother to learn anything about music. I mean i've seen and known local noise bands that were exactly like that. Overnight they'd proclaim themselves a band despite having barely ever touched an instrument and thought what they were doing was new and exciting, randomly hitting their instruments more or less and screaming into a mic and omg they were like so challenging it automatically made them awesome. To those people I say, fuck you and your alleged art

I actually listened to some Drunks with Guns to see if I could judge them accurately on this one song posted, and even they are too structured (and playing in tune and consistent keys) for me to throw into that category.

But I guess i'm wrong as to what constitutes noise rock.. OR the people I've seen play it were anyway. I can't say I've ever had an interest to learn more based on the examples I heard. The bands I heard (and object to) were really to me pretty much straight (or close to straight) noise.

 
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Is this thread real?
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That's true for those guys. But this isn't noise (as mentioned).

My problem is with noise rock made by often times hipster morons that is just an excuse for people to be in a band and not bother to learn anything about music. I mean i've seen and known local noise bands that were exactly like that. Overnight they'd proclaim themselves a band despite having barely ever touched an instrument and thought what they were doing was new and exciting, randomly hitting their instruments more or less and screaming into a mic and omg they were like so challenging it automatically made them awesome. To those people I say, fuck you and your alleged art

I actually listened to some Drunks with Guns to see if I could judge them accurately on this one song posted, and even they are too structured (and playing in tune and consistent keys) for me to throw into that category.

But I guess i'm wrong as to what constitutes noise rock.. OR the people I've seen play it were anyway. I can't say I've ever had an interest to learn more based on the examples I heard. The bands I heard (and object to) were really to me pretty much straight (or close to straight) noise.
do you actually read other peoples posts?

 
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Old 05-26-2014, 08:18 PM   #49
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sorry for ruining your thread, pavement

 
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Old 05-26-2014, 08:24 PM   #50
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Nothing ruined, should start a sadwave thread next

 
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Old 05-27-2014, 12:41 AM   #51
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austra's pretty good too. new album kinda sucks though


 
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Old 05-27-2014, 07:54 AM   #52
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Oha, totally forgot Austra, I have/had? Feel It Break somewhere.

LALI PUNA
(another band with Markus Acher of The Notwist)





Maybe you dig SOHN when you're done with the Johnny Crash playlist?
Sadwave, smooth, and slightly depressing if you listen long enough. perfect for driving


 
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Nothing ruined, should start a sadwave thread next
so, wait, sadwave is not the same as synth pop? what about chillwave? electronic indie?

I like these a little:






 
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I wasn't serious. I just like the word 'sadwave.'
For me synth pop, chillwave etc. includes happy sounds, too, sadwave doesn't. SOHN is sadwave. Not depressing, just smoothly sad.

Never heard Pillar Point before.

 
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Fucking subgenres labeling has gone absolutely out of control in the past two decades.

 
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I like the term "Navelgaze"

Music for people who look down towards their belly

 
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that's not what it means

 
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Old 06-03-2014, 03:20 PM   #58
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I know.

But it's what it should mean

 
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do you know? because you're a textbook definition of it

 
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"oh i'm so fascinating i like post punk"

 
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