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View Poll Results: Rate that CYR!
0 - total garbage, unlistenable, couldnít make it through a single listen 7 9.09%
1 - this is technically music, but you donít like anything about it 4 5.19%
2 - some of the worst music youíve ever heard, you wonít ever listen to it again 6 7.79%
3 - pretty bad album, but at least it has purple blood 9 11.69%
4 - Worse than average, you listened to the whole thing but have no desire to do it again 15 19.48%
5 - Completely neutral, you neither love nor loathe this sound 9 11.69%
6 - Better than average, but only a few songs youíll be returning to 8 10.39%
7 - Super duper album but you wonít be pulling it out unless you are particularly in the mood for it 9 11.69%
8 - great album marred by a few missteps or idiosyncrasies. You will keep listening regularly 7 9.09%
9 - fantastic album, u will get married or renew your vows to it one day 1 1.30%
10 - complete success, on par with golden era SP 2 2.60%
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Old 11-30-2020, 11:52 PM   #151
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Donít believe ive seen this, hoping for a couple songs
If I was looking for max album sales I would go with a song like Save your tears and or Anno Satano. But knowing Billy my guess is Ramona and or Cyr

 
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Old 11-30-2020, 11:53 PM   #152
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the truly frustrating thing is how these songs always end up being pretty good live

 
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Old 11-30-2020, 11:54 PM   #153
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is this a bullshit covid prerecorded thing?

 
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Old 12-01-2020, 12:02 AM   #154
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is this a bullshit covid prerecorded thing?
It's gotta be right? I'm out of the loop I don't watched much regular tv. There's no way it's live though, considering the covid.

 
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Old 12-01-2020, 12:11 AM   #155
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It tomorrow 12/1 I don't know why I thought it was tonight.

 
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Old 12-01-2020, 12:43 AM   #156
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Here’s my tracklist rn:

Color Love
Dopamine
Wrath
Ah no Santana
Birch Grove
Starrcraff
Purp Bloods
Save Tears
Black Hill Forests
Telegenics

Glides right by, flows ok

Almost kept wyttch but it’s just too silly. It’s ok but more like a novelty song when what im into on this one is the wintry synths and the pain. Same reason Cyr is cut: too cartoony

Telegenics is strong but i don’t understand its placement on the tracklist, feels much better to me as a fine/stark closer to a downer of a synthbath. Whereas where it is on the tracklist it sorta interrupts the proceedings with a plodder of a smoke break of a goodbye song

 
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Old 12-01-2020, 12:58 AM   #157
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listening trough this fucking slop. full track bitching up soon.

the swoon section of save your tears is the closest thing to joy i've felt listening to corgan's music in years

 
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Old 12-01-2020, 01:01 AM   #158
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Here’s my tracklist rn:

Color Love
Dopamine
Wrath
Ah no Santana
Birch Grove
Starrcraff
Purp Bloods
Save Tears
Black Hill Forests
Telegenics

Glides right by, flows ok

Almost kept wyttch but it’s just too silly. It’s ok but more like a novelty song when what im into on this one is the wintry synths and the pain. Same reason Cyr is cut: too cartoony

Telegenics is strong but i don’t understand its placement on the tracklist, feels much better to me as a fine/stark closer to a downer of a synthbath. Whereas where it is on the tracklist it sorta interrupts the proceedings with a plodder of a smoke break of a goodbye song
Well Hot Dog ain't that one heck of a CYR tracklist my man! I'm happy to see Dopamine on there, I love that song! Corgan really goes deep down in the trenches for that one! I also agree with Wyttch not being a good fit as well as cyr.

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Old 12-01-2020, 01:38 AM   #159
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  1. Color of Love - the first two chords sound like shitty parody wrestling music. the melody and lyrics honestly did grow on me since september. shudder. synth solo after the chorus is cool, like the twin leads in Ava adore. halftime drum ending is kinda cool
  2. Dopamine - vocal intro is grating. overall boring and weak. itís like quiet but without any of the redeeming instruments
  3. CYR - best atmospherics so far. chorus is unreal cringe. far enough in that itís all blending together and becoming tiresome.
  4. dulcet - dynamic change is nice. lyrics are nonsense. yeah, this whole thing is still samey. bored.
  5. wrath - vocals are getting so grating. uninspiring overall.
  6. ramona - chorus is bad. iím so bored. iím less offended than after the countdowns but very bored. *iíve been riding high* is kinda nice. then him crooning over the piano is torture. the weird drum sample build is so bad. ugh.
  7. anon - didnít realize the last one ended. this one is kinda better
  8. birch - love the lyrics but the singing is painful
  9. wiitttch - worst so far. unlistenable and bad. i hate everything about the aesthetic. itís tonight tonight on a horrible, horrible acid trip. i zoned out in the middle and grooved to some of the JC hihat slurps
  10. stagecraft - god is it over yet. i do like the chorus, itís just his insta stories as as song. snare clap isnít bad in context
  11. purple blood - i just canít see myself actually liking this aesthetic. at least when taylor swift does synthpop itís actually good and iíd like to see her naked on the cover
  12. save your tears - kinda cool beat. i paused before this to play rocket on guitar and the contrast was the highlight of my day. the bendy Ďswooní is the closest thing to pleasure iíve felt this whole record
  13. telegenic - hate the intro. 20 songs is a lot to ask if youíre selling on vinyl. i get his point about streaming and it doesnít actually matter with digital, but fuck. solo vox in the middle are so bad. remember bodies? fuck me.
  14. black forest - i donít hate it, i guess. breakdown is pretty enough. tempo is boring but eventually JC entrances me
  15. adrenaline - everlasting gaze was better
  16. haunted - taylor swiftís was a trillion times better. thank god itís almost over. this is really bad and tuneless.
  17. hidden sun - GOD this is so boring. especially after 16 other songs. kinda dreamy i guess. just paused to listen to a taylor swift song. came right back into to corgan cheese grating my ears. ugh.
  18. schadenfreude - this is the same as the last 50 songs. i dunno. i like the little sparse guitar part in the right channel. james wherefore art thou. cool drum panning.
  19. tiger - i know corgan said he was fucking around but at least WOCOAN was sweet and fit into the victorian dolls sort of vibe. this is bad
  20. minerva - praise fucking god itís the last one. kinda nice. few cool JC touches. he pronounces minerva like a jackass


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Old 12-01-2020, 06:22 AM   #160
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5/10

I really, really like it up to BF/BH. I think it could've been a great album if they'd done 14 songs and not stuck so rigidly to whatever rules they imposed on themselves. After Telegenix sounds it sounds like an assortment of bonus tracks.

Production is lovely in places and I get what he was going for but it doesn't really sound cohesive. Some songs stand out as sounding completely different somehow. It's the opposite of MCIS.

BF/BH to Schadenfruede are all bad songs and/or badly produced. Adrennalynne and Schadenfreude could've been good but production is terrible. I'm surprised that they made it onto the album, a wiser man would've saved them or called in some help.

Haunted is the absolute worst song in SP/WPCs career. The sound, the chorus melody, the way the drums sound, the way the drums come in, everything. The part where the backing singers sing the chorus solo, specifically, is the worst few seconds of music WPC has ever recorded.

Tyger Tyger and Minerva are better but it never really recovers.

Also my vinyl copy (UK Orchid) is completely fucked. It's unplayable. Literally covered in "dimples" I've never seen anything like it. Whoever pressed these really didn't give a shit.

 
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Old 12-01-2020, 06:37 AM   #161
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5/10
Haunted is the absolute worst song in SP/WPCs career. The sound, the chorus melody, the way the drums sound, the way the drums come in, everything. The part where the backing singers sing the chorus solo, specifically, is the worst few seconds of music WPC has ever recorded.

Haunted isn't the worst track in the second half of this record, let alone the worst in SP/WPC career.

Because Your Are exists. WWMM exists. Ramona & Starrcraft exist on the same fucking record.

 
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Old 12-01-2020, 06:42 AM   #162
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Nah. I'm telling you it's Haunted.

The thing is it's not memorably annoying like other bad SP songs so it'll never receive the recognition it deserves.

 
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Old 12-01-2020, 06:43 AM   #163
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Haunted isn’t bad at all. Had the album today and that track has been growing on me.

 
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Old 12-01-2020, 06:51 AM   #164
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Yeah I like Haunted.

The 4 worst tracks for me are Dopamine, Ramona, Starrcraft, Adrenalynne.

 
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Old 12-01-2020, 08:42 AM   #165
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The worst tracks are: wytcchh, bf b, tyger tyger, and wrath

 
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Old 12-01-2020, 09:27 AM   #166
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I can’t imagine sitting down and listening to Cyr

 
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Old 12-01-2020, 09:37 AM   #167
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Tyger, Tyger / Save Your Tears

Should’ve been the first singles. Weird, contemporary song to attract the headlines, coupled with the album's best track.

Then Anno Satana / CoL.

Finally, Wyttch / Purple Blood

(Cyr is binned off completely)

 
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Old 12-01-2020, 09:51 AM   #168
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hmm


the weak ones so far for me are wrath, wyttch, and tyger.


purp blood-save your tears-telegenix-black hills is an awesome stretch (kinda like your dad lol)

 
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Old 12-01-2020, 09:54 AM   #169
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Wyttch is actually complete shit, yes.

Tyger is getting dunked on, but you all need to sleep on it and realise it's like the best up-tempo Bieber-Eilish-certified track on this album.

 
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Old 12-01-2020, 11:01 AM   #170
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Tyger, Tyger is great yes. I don't think the songs are really the problem though. The problem is the requirements / limitations they've imposed on themselves and/or WPCs limitations as a producer.

 
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Old 12-01-2020, 11:50 AM   #171
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that fucking starchildren song that was fuzzed out to shit is 1000x more listenable than this

corgan recording the band onto a fucking 8 track cassette mixer thing is 1000x more listenable than this

he's fucking around too much

 
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Old 12-01-2020, 12:35 PM   #172
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that fucking starchildren song that was fuzzed out to shit is 1000x more listenable than this

corgan recording the band onto a fucking 8 track cassette mixer thing is 1000x more listenable than this

he's fucking around too much
We have evolved from Wall of Corgans on Zeitgeist to Wall of Katies on Cyr.

 
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Old 12-01-2020, 12:42 PM   #173
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one more wonderful parallel between the Naked Lord & our beloved president

 
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Old 12-03-2020, 05:20 AM   #174
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The problem of b0lly is being just focused on commercial success and "new" fame. When he does a 20 pop electonic, simple, with no deep feelings to make you think or feel things and 3 minutes songs, he is really looking for it.
He stills frustrated since 2000 when Britney Spears fucked his dream/band putting out pre fabricated plastic music with success. Since he wants to prove he can do the same too.
But failing until now...

Everyone knows the best music always come from the inside/heart which is what billy is not doing since TFE in my opinion.

 
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Old 12-03-2020, 06:55 AM   #175
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I actually can't sit through this whole thing.

 
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Old 12-03-2020, 06:55 AM   #176
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How does he tell any of these songs apart?

 
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Old 12-03-2020, 07:17 AM   #177
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How does he tell any of these songs apart?
I'll ride Billy as hard as the next guy, but these songs do not all sound the same.

Ditch the full tracklist, use headphones and try this until you can tell them apart.

1. The Colour of Love
2. Tyger, Tyger
3. Anno Satana
4. Birch Grove
5. Purple Blood
6. Save Your Tears
7. BF, BH
8. Telegenix
9. Haunted
10. Hidden Sun
11. Dulcet in E
12. Schaudenfreud
13. Minerva
14. Wrath

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Old 12-03-2020, 09:34 AM   #178
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The fact no one on here can agree to their favorite edited tracklist suggests this is actually a pretty strong album, with a lot of nuance. It’s exhausting, even numbing, to sit through the entire thing. But different people are finding different things that they like as they spend time with the tracks.

For me, there’s probably always going to be an * on this one b/c it takes a lot of effort/patience to look past the vocal presentation. But there is some legitimate SP tucked away in the nooks and crannies of this album. More so than anything since golden era, i think i can safely certify at this point

 
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The fact no one on here can agree to their favorite edited tracklist suggests this is actually a pretty strong album, with a lot of nuance. Itís exhausting, even numbing, to sit through the entire thing. But different people are finding different things that they like as they spend time with the tracks.

For me, thereís probably always going to be an * on this one b/c it takes a lot of effort/patience to look past the vocal presentation. But there is some legitimate SP tucked away in the nooks and crannies of this album. More so than anything since golden era, i think i can safely certify at this point
True about the tracklist and it's an odd mix of Adore, TFE, Zwan by way of MTAE. As well as trimming the obnoxious tracks, I think he should've gone for a David Byrne - Lazarus aesthetic, less goth disco wizard and cartoons, more down-to-earth "this is an experimental synth album by ageing rock stars", it would have received more goodwill in response.

And with headphones that vocal presentation is much less grating.

 
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Old 12-03-2020, 02:11 PM   #180
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Aw man Kenny Aronoff says this is technically music but he doesnít like anything about it!

 
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