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View Poll Results: Rate that CYR!
0 - total garbage, unlistenable, couldn’t make it through a single listen 7 9.09%
1 - this is technically music, but you don’t like anything about it 4 5.19%
2 - some of the worst music you’ve ever heard, you won’t ever listen to it again 6 7.79%
3 - pretty bad album, but at least it has purple blood 9 11.69%
4 - Worse than average, you listened to the whole thing but have no desire to do it again 15 19.48%
5 - Completely neutral, you neither love nor loathe this sound 9 11.69%
6 - Better than average, but only a few songs you’ll be returning to 8 10.39%
7 - Super duper album but you won’t be pulling it out unless you are particularly in the mood for it 9 11.69%
8 - great album marred by a few missteps or idiosyncrasies. You will keep listening regularly 7 9.09%
9 - fantastic album, u will get married or renew your vows to it one day 1 1.30%
10 - complete success, on par with golden era SP 2 2.60%
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Old 11-28-2020, 11:13 PM   #61
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no we don't.

 
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Old 11-28-2020, 11:18 PM   #62
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Listened to every song once and in my humble imo I just thought the whole thing was inoffensive and bland, with no standouts good or bad.

As for the whole synth thing, this has been said a lot, but I can't help but feel there's a ton of bands out there playing a much better, more intriguing and engaging version of what was attempted on this album.
Which leaves me thinking that maybe i'm just done with the pumpkins and even if they were putting out their best music now maybe i'd just not be into it even still.

 
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Old 11-29-2020, 12:02 AM   #63
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no we don't.
Maybe not classic but we all want to get our hands on the Machina reissue. Look no further than the 100 page Machina thread and most netphorians love Adore. My point is both of these albums were extremely polarizing when they came out, much like CYR. Now they are embraced and even considered some of SP's best work. Both having songs in most fans top 10.

 
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Old 11-29-2020, 12:18 AM   #64
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I was here when Adore was released and most people loved it. It was commercially disappointing maybe. But I never once was disappointed with it. Thought it was a classic the moment I heard it.

 
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Old 11-29-2020, 01:04 AM   #65
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As i said 20 plodding synth songs.
It is obvious why sp get bad reviews... i understand it.
Save your tears is the only song where u could think that there is a band
I bet james contributions are so minimal..

I like it, but the world is laughing their ass off

 
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Old 11-29-2020, 01:08 AM   #66
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As i said 20 plodding synth songs.
It is obvious why sp get bad reviews... i understand it.
Save your tears is the only song where u could think that there is a band
I bet james contributions are so minimal..

I like it, but the world is laughing their ass off
How was your bath earlier did u get hi af

Not gonna lie was a little worried about u, gotta be careful with hearphones in the bath. Let alone lettin big willie in your bathtimes

 
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Old 11-29-2020, 01:10 AM   #67
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YA5H did u get time to do any biblical analysis on these tracks

 
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Old 11-29-2020, 01:12 AM   #68
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whether or not you let The Naked Lord in your bathtime happening, the Naked Lord WILL be watching

still haven't heard the album, tbh

i may give in

 
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Old 11-29-2020, 01:30 AM   #69
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CYR makes Teargarden pretty listenable.

 
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Old 11-29-2020, 03:11 AM   #70
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9 out of 10? seems insane. 9 out of 10 is like PI or Adore

machina is like 7. machina II maybe an 8.

gish somewhere in there

if you truly like it as much as PI then I am glad

 
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Old 11-29-2020, 04:34 AM   #71
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anyone who thinks this is better than Zeitgeist should be hung by their unmentionables for a full 24 hours

the fuck is wrong with y'all
I wouldnt class Zeitgeist as a BC solo album though. It very prominently features Jimmy.

I’d maybe, MAYBE rate Cyr higher than TFE, Oceania, Teargarden, MTAE, Shiny , Cotillions. But that is only based on a few listens and me removing half of the tracklisting. In a month I might feel differently.

 
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Old 11-29-2020, 04:57 AM   #72
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I still feel that TFE was a stronger album than Cyr and much more forward thinking with the electronics than this album.

 
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Old 11-29-2020, 05:10 AM   #73
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Dare I say best album since Machina. I've been a fan since the beginning and I have been very disappointed with the releases over the last 15 years. However, this is the most "Pumpkins sounding" album since Machina. 9 out of 10. Listen, it's there.
I agree, but i'd give a 7/10 if not an 8/10.

 
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Old 11-29-2020, 05:17 AM   #74
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I still feel that TFE was a stronger album than Cyr and much more forward thinking with the electronics than this album.
Billy sings with his “new” voice on TFE and there isn’t a single song I enjoy. I would rank it worse than Teargarden and way at the bottom of anything Corgan has produced.

It was nowhere close to Kid A / Amnesiac etc

 
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Old 11-29-2020, 05:20 AM   #75
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whether or not you let The Naked Lord in your bathtime happening, the Naked Lord WILL be watching

still haven't heard the album, tbh

i may give in
Let's do it. The 7/10 people here make me expect glorious songs, each 10/10 since the 3 tracks I heard weeks ago were somewhere in the 1/10 league.

I can't stand the album of TFE songs and never could.
Are any live/acoustic versions of the new songs around, radio promo sessions maybe?

 
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Old 11-29-2020, 05:31 AM   #76
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Let's do it. The 7/10 people here make me expect glorious songs, each 10/10 since the 3 tracks I heard weeks ago were somewhere in the 1/10 league.

I can't stand the album of TFE songs and never could.
Are any live/acoustic versions of the new songs around, radio promo sessions maybe?
4/10 is leading the poll.

 
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Old 11-29-2020, 05:56 AM   #77
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I like the overall vibe, some of the songs I really don't care for, some I quite like. Maybe one or two I'll play on rotation. But I don't too much like Billy's wordiness and annunciation. Jimmy's style is pretty obvious in most tracks, but also there are some that are way too generic for my liking. I like what they were trying to do, but I think they went too far. It would have been nice for a little more variation. Am I disappointed that drumming is more Adore than Gish, yeah, kinda. But it's not so offensive that I'm close to giving up on the band or what not, but I do understand the urge towards that feeling.

Anyway, I'll give it a couple more spins.

 
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Old 11-29-2020, 06:39 AM   #78
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I totally understand what your saying but I feel that the amount of time put into this album payed off. Music is art and art is subjective, suum cuique. I'm curious to see how this album will age. Many fans despised Adore and Machina and now we call them classics.
Log off, Billy.

 
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Old 11-29-2020, 08:28 AM   #79
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Billy sings with his “new” voice on TFE and there isn’t a single song I enjoy. I would rank it worse than Teargarden and way at the bottom of anything Corgan has produced.

It was nowhere close to Kid A / Amnesiac etc
Opening track is great. Mina Loy. Pretty pretty star. And the closing track Strayz is one of his most beautiful and honest songs. Sorry but I vehemently disagree with you and in the words of Greatvegetable you’re an utter fuckpig and risible cunt! j/k

 
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Old 11-29-2020, 08:29 AM   #80
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This is never going to be a classic.

Ever.

Neither is TFE.

 
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Old 11-29-2020, 08:32 AM   #81
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Old 11-29-2020, 08:37 AM   #82
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It just occured to me that Christmas Time is better than this. JFC*







*Jimmy Fucking Chamberlin

 
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Old 11-29-2020, 09:01 AM   #83
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Lol u guys are still hoping to get those gtr interplay with james and gtrs walls of beauty and jimmy grooving....

That wont happen.


Lol...even random listeners descrive the album as bullshit...

Lol..you dreamers

 
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Old 11-29-2020, 09:11 AM   #84
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siamese dreamer for life

 
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Old 11-29-2020, 09:42 AM   #85
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Lol u guys are still hoping to get those gtr interplay with james and gtrs walls of beauty and jimmy grooving....

That wont happen.


Lol...even random listeners descrive the album as bullshit...

Lol..you dreamers
Lol... lol.

 
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Old 11-29-2020, 11:31 AM   #86
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I've already listened to it more than I thought I would. Minerva is fantastic.

 
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Old 11-29-2020, 01:20 PM   #87
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YA5H did u get time to do any biblical analysis on these tracks
It's funny you say that brother because I was going through all the lyrics last night. Wrath is pretty straight forward with Heaven,and the Judgement. Also Shaudenfreud has some good references to Jesus "Round the hills of our Lord and hollows In sacrifice of His own" and when he says "like a lion I will track our rulers" . Not as much as I thought. I think there is more references to greek mythology and tarot cards from what people are saying but I don't know much about either of those.

 
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that's good. you should keep it that way, unless your planning on going to hell.

 
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Old 11-29-2020, 02:01 PM   #89
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that's good. you should keep it that way, unless your planning on going to hell.
Hopefully with God's grace I won't and neither will you.
"The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom and the knowledge of the holy is understanding."

 
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Old 11-29-2020, 02:31 PM   #90
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Cyr makes Teargarden By Kaleidyscope sound like a masterpiece

Cyr is unlistenable
This is an insane opinion. Teargarden was clearly and obviously his worst work ever.

 
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