Machina reissue a go

[wHATcOLOR]

Originally Posted by thedeadofnight

Glass & the Machines of God serve as a semi-fictitious/semi-autobiographical rock band. There was a time when a man by the name of Zero lead a group called The Smashing Pumpkins. But upon being charged with what he perceived to be a divine calling emitted through the radio, he assumes a new identity –Glass- and renames his band to 'The Machines of God'.

Glass is a complex and multi-dimensional character. Lyrically he is witty, vain, sarcastic and intellectually brilliant. However, he is also materialistic, fame driven, and emotionally wounded. Glass' character undergoes many changes over the course of the albums and his fate is left somewhat open ended.

i'm not sure i can think of a concept less relatable and less interesting than this

[wHATcOLOR]

and the fact that we are all still genuinely wanting to hear this bloated stupid reissue decades later, despite all that, just shows that the story was never necessary

[Machinist]

Looking forward to buying the vinyl, briefly glancing over the liner notes, listening to the tracks, and then probably never thinking about the machina story again.

[killtrocity]

If you're telling me that MACHINIA is some sort of allegory about transition metals, I'm going to have to second wHATcOLOR's sentiment.

Transition metals are fucking boring as fuck

alchemy sucks, chemistry is better

except transition metal chemistry, fuck you inorganic chemists

[Forgotten Child]

[Forgotten Child]

The Smashing Pumpkins’ ‘Machina II’ rework is finished and will have at least 80 songs, says Billy Corgan

https://www.nme.com/news/music/the-s...corgan-2867160

[Shallowed]

Originally Posted by killtrocity

alchemy sucks, chemistry is better

except transition metal chemistry, fuck you inorganic chemists

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[VoxUpDoc]

I’m looking forward to a mix which finally does these songs justice, in the spirit of the era, with a wide dynamic range to really showcase the instrumental layering and-

RAAAAAIIINNN FALLLLLSS ON EVERYOOOOOHHHUUUNNN +5dbs

[jakobtheliar]

Originally Posted by Forgotten Child

The Smashing Pumpkins’ ‘Machina II’ rework is finished and will have at least 80 songs, says Billy Corgan

https://www.nme.com/news/music/the-s...corgan-2867160

Thanks for posting this.
Lol.
A new character?

[smashingjj]

how is it that machina II is suddenly being viewed and worked on as a separate thing

[jakobtheliar]

Originally Posted by smashingjj

how is it that machina II is suddenly being viewed and worked on as a separate thing

I'm a bit confused as well. But it sounded like Machina is 50 songs and with all the bonus stuff it's 80 songs.
Machina 2 has got to be included in that.

And we are getting the Razor Blade take of Dross.

[slunken]

Originally Posted by smashingjj

how is it that machina II is suddenly being viewed and worked on as a separate thing

think about this and get back to us.

[krackhead]

Will this be available in penis haze vinyl?

[VoxUpDoc]

Originally Posted by jakobtheliar

Thanks for posting this.
Lol.
A new character?

Fans can’t wait to meet the new character given how famously pivotal and well-drawn Zero and ummm... Glass? were to the success of Smashing Pumpkins’ music.

[TheAlter]

2021 WPC is trying to re-work their legacy according to his current taste and without the vision and talent of his glory days.

And...wtf happened to CYR?! No mention of a double album released just two months ago?

[smashingjj]

Originally Posted by slunken

think about this and get back to us.

Let me think. Die of aids?

[Oklahoma Sexual]

Originally Posted by smashingjj

Let me think. Die of aids?

If you want to, I'm sure you wouldn't be missed. Not around here anyway.

Also, no one has ever died from AIDS.

[Reyngel]

I wonder what the first track in the completed sequence will be. Seems like it might be a few options:

1. Glass’ Theme
2. Everlasting Gaze
3. Pale Scales
4. Some completed variation instrumental of the Machina theme / Le Deux Machina

My guess would be that it will be #4. Especially since it’s a concept album, I could see him trying to emphasize that point with a theme piece that weaves throughout the entire thing, similar to how the Mellon Collie theme made its appearance in the first track, the end of Ruby, the end of Farewell + Goodnight, and in Infinite Sadness on vinyl. That Machina theme piece will probably make its appearance a few times throughout the album for cohesion’s sake.

I always thought the Machina story was hyper convoluted and contrived, trying way too hard to be intellectual and philosophical... like it was Billy’s rushed version of The Wall. As much as I feel it to be lame, though, I could potentially be interested if he successfully paints some weird picture of a rock star who basically goes insane with visions of the voice of God speaking through him and all that.

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Oklahoma Sexual

If you want to, I'm sure you wouldn't be missed. Not around here anyway.

Also, no one has ever died from AIDS.

Am I missing something here or

[smashingjj]

you're missing a bit of intellect in Oklahoma sexual. you're not the only one.

[Oklahoma Sexual]

Originally Posted by smashingjj

you're missing a bit of intellect in Oklahoma sexual. you're not the only one.

That's fine. Good luck with the AIDS thing

[Oklahoma Sexual]

I sincerely hope it works out for you

[smashingjj]

anyway,

[AveryLoren]

Originally Posted by Reyngel

I wonder what the first track in the completed sequence will be. Seems like it might be a few options:

1. Glass’ Theme
2. Everlasting Gaze
3. Pale Scales
4. Some completed variation instrumental of the Machina theme / Le Deux Machina

As someone obsessed with MACHINA and its various potential configurations I always opened with If There Is a God. Soniclovenoize does the same in their reconstruction.

[VoxUpDoc]

I open my reconstruction of Machina with Slow Dawn.
I follow it up with Slow Dawn.
And finish with a mellow number... it’s Slow Dawn.

Did anyone listen to Le Deux Machina more than one time back in September 2000?

[killtrocity]

Originally Posted by krackhead

Will this be available in penis haze vinyl?

only the version that is blessed by a rabbi in the shadows of Macchu Picchu

[slunken]

Originally Posted by smashingjj

Let me think. Die of aids?

guy like that thinks aids is funny

guy like me? no way jose

[soniclovenoize]

Originally Posted by AveryLoren

As someone obsessed with MACHINA and its various potential configurations I always opened with If There Is a God. Soniclovenoize does the same in their reconstruction.

In my mind's eye, I've always imagined this completely different band version of If There Is a God that sounds more like Pink Floyd's In The Flesh. Like it comes in crashing with the sustained chords, and then strips away when the vocal come in. And then the band kicks in again at the end.

I'm really interested in what Corgan puts together, but three discs is fucking absurd.

[killtrocity]

Is it the concert within an album thing that makes you think of In The Flesh? I was just thinking about The Wall in relation to Machina. Definitely some similarities

[T&T]

The Wall itself has sold 30 million copies worldwide, MCIS stands at 10 million)