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Old 02-14-2015, 07:49 PM   #211
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For all the bad shit kanye is, theres two major positives:

1. Hes passionate
2. Hes hard working

Two thing bill hasnt been in at least 10 yrs
This. Very accurate. Love him or hate him, but those positives can't be denied.

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Yeah, seems like a total throwaway to me. I'm not understanding the appeal.

You're right about the community obsessively latching onto mediocre songs. It reminds me of "Make it happen". Everyone was always raving about it but it was just a boring, simplistic little pop song... The kinda song most people would skip if it it was on an official release.
I'd like "Burnt Orange Black" more if Corgan would work more on its lyrics and make it less repetitive. But he won't. Anyway, Kirilenko avatar dude, what are your thoughts about, let's say, "The Dream Machine", "Lonely Is The Name" & "As Rome Burns"?

 
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Old 02-15-2015, 12:27 AM   #212
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The Dream Machine and As Rome Burns both seemed like they had potential, but the melodies just didn't do anything for me. Nothing surprising or interesting enough to warrant going back to the tracks more than once.

As for Lonely Is the name, I think that tracks absolute garbage. Like most of Teargarden; it was just lazy and uninspired.

 
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Old 02-15-2015, 01:27 AM   #213
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Ever since The Future Embrace Billy's melodies are rote and uninspired.
Delivery even worse.

 
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Old 02-15-2015, 04:11 AM   #214
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I'd like "Burnt Orange Black" more if Corgan would work more on its lyrics and make it less repetitive. But he won't. Anyway, Kirilenko avatar dude, what are your thoughts about, let's say, "The Dream Machine", "Lonely Is The Name" & "As Rome Burns"?
Burnt Orange: I like the verses, but the chorus sounds really awkward.

 
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Old 02-15-2015, 01:55 PM   #215
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Burned Orange Black sounds forced and annoying. Like they wanna make a nice 6 minute quiet epic but this is all they could come up with

 
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Old 02-16-2015, 02:49 AM   #216
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take this blasphemy to twitter and shut the fuck up..burnt orange black is a great song
No it's not.

 
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Old 02-16-2015, 03:13 AM   #217
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I said it before


SP fans are huge optimists

we want to believe

 
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Old 02-16-2015, 03:17 AM   #218
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Burnt Orange Black sounds pretty damn good. Best thing I've heard from Billy in awhile but it could be about a full minute shorter.

And a hefty FUCK YOU to Fuzzy Make it Happen is one of maybe 2 or 3 solo Corgan songs on par with SP

 
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Old 02-16-2015, 03:19 AM   #219
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You're impossible, but it's possible
That we could get along

 
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Old 02-16-2015, 05:30 PM   #220
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Can't say I'm a fan of Burnt Orange Black either...it has some nice elements, but the chorus bores me to sleep and the song is way too repetitive. Sorry...don't beat me!

 
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Old 02-16-2015, 06:00 PM   #221
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What's so funny? Lyrically I dislike the dude, he raps shit most of the time. But as a producer, dude got some skill. "lol"
funny, it's very well known kanye has lots of ghost writers and a big number of other people working behind the scene for his productions. Oh yeah, let's talk about talent... and artistry.

 
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Old 02-16-2015, 06:58 PM   #222
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Make It Happen and Lonely Is the Name are two of the best SP songs since 2007

 
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Old 02-16-2015, 07:01 PM   #223
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i couldn't even hum you the melody

 
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Old 02-16-2015, 07:24 PM   #224
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That's only because Billy didn't butcher them in the studio. Or if he did, he at least kept us from hearing it.

 
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Old 02-16-2015, 07:24 PM   #225
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i couldn't even hum you the melody
Everyone says that about almost everything post Teargarden

 
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Old 02-16-2015, 07:28 PM   #226
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he literally started out being a fucking producer. why talk about things that you really have know knowledge of?

 
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Old 02-16-2015, 07:30 PM   #227
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i couldn't even hum you the melody
that's good. life is a bummer when you're a hummer.

 
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Old 02-16-2015, 07:38 PM   #228
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didn't know Lonely is the Name until they played it at Ravinia last year,
and have never heard Make It Happen.

Suggestions, which are the best recs of those two?

 
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Old 02-16-2015, 07:40 PM   #229
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funny, it's very well known kanye has lots of ghost writers and a big number of other people working behind the scene for his productions. Oh yeah, let's talk about talent... and artistry.
Come on, fernando, you gotta do better than that. I suggest reading what Trotskilicious wrote before.

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he literally started out being a fucking producer. why talk about things that you really have know knowledge of?
Exactly.

 
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Old 02-16-2015, 07:41 PM   #230
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didn't know Lonely is the Name until they played it at Ravinia last year,
and have never heard Make It Happen.

Suggestions, which are the best recs of those two?
Make It Happen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnE6MZt6xxA
Lonely Is The Name: http://youtu.be/xOInl5gk_90?t=3m47s

 
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Old 02-16-2015, 07:43 PM   #231
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Thank you!
didn't want to blindly pick one... I'd rather not find more recordings I can't stand.

Make It Happen says demo version for teargarden - how was that released then, through the old sp site?

 
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Old 02-16-2015, 07:44 PM   #232
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didn't know Lonely is the Name until they played it at Ravinia last year,
and have never heard Make It Happen.

Suggestions, which are the best recs of those two?
Studio demo


Live version

 
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Old 02-16-2015, 07:48 PM   #233
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ui, that Make It Happen demo is nice. Sound like a Zwan song.

 
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Old 02-16-2015, 07:48 PM   #234
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He just changed the lyrics from make it happen, make it so to make it alright, alright

 
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Old 02-16-2015, 09:49 PM   #235
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Forgot how good Lonely is the Name was. Really wish Bills put it on DfN w/o butchering it.

 
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Old 02-16-2015, 10:10 PM   #236
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funny, it's very well known kanye has lots of ghost writers and a big number of other people working behind the scene for his productions. Oh yeah, let's talk about talent... and artistry.
What the fuck are you talking about? Prove it. It's not like Taylor Swift where people have come out and are well known ghost writers. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is a tucking brilliant album, and if you don't like it, you're an idiot.

 
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Old 02-16-2015, 11:21 PM   #237
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Kanye sounds like shit when he sings.

 
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Old 02-16-2015, 11:21 PM   #238
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With or without autotune.

 
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Old 02-17-2015, 01:36 AM   #239
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Make It Happen says demo version for teargarden - how was that released then, through the old sp site?
Eh what, it's not a demo, it's a live recording, albeit a soundboard. Is there a lossless version available?

 
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Old 02-17-2015, 06:41 AM   #240
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I get tired of that same "Thats the way my love is drum beat" that Byrne would always play. SP3 aped the beat for so many different songs.. It sorta ruins Make it happen for me.

 
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