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07-21-2018, 09:51 AM | #361 |
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"ugly pig"
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07-21-2018, 12:00 PM | #362 |
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I like those new posts from Billy about his mental health and weight, very emotionally honest and not the usual 'hide what I really mean' speak he uses in a lot of posts.
It's important to remember for all fans, especially the ones who can get personal about Billy and D'arcy (this goes out to other forums too) that they are human beings. |
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07-21-2018, 12:46 PM | #363 | |
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07-21-2018, 01:01 PM | #364 |
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07-21-2018, 01:09 PM | #365 |
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07-21-2018, 01:57 PM | #366 |
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07-21-2018, 02:06 PM | #367 |
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omg
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07-21-2018, 02:07 PM | #368 |
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TENDRILS DON'T GO INTO THE GROUND
FUCKING IDIOT |
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07-21-2018, 02:21 PM | #369 |
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Thanks billy. Nice words
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07-21-2018, 05:53 PM | #370 |
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I’m in therapy for the same issues as Billy and I recognize everything he’s saying down to the empathy for the inner child exercise. I’m convinced that Smashing Pumpkins are a honeypot for victims of narcissistic abuse, because there’s a very specific attitude towards self, love, and the world that springs from it that’s reflected in the Pumpkins’ music.
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07-21-2018, 07:19 PM | #371 |
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I was abused early in life, but I wouldn't call it narcissistic abuse. All the variations of abuse plus a lot of emotional neglect and threats of abandonment. Later on though, yeah, as a teenager, I got a nice 5 year nonstop dose of that shit. But I started listening to SP at 10 or 11... I mean just liking this band at that age is probably should have been a big-ass warning sign. No 10 year old should be able to relate to MCIS as much as I did.
Anyway I agree with you, people drawn to SP tend to have childhood issues, and so you get the nice melting pot of mental illness at netphoria. I also have done inner child exercises as Billy explains. I haven't been able to have much empathy for that child yet, let alone myself as I am now. But there's hope I suppose. It's shitty, and if I imagine some other kid I can have empathy, but when I think of myself I feel like nothing bad enough happened for me to be that traumatized that early. But I was, so obviously it was bad enough. |
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07-21-2018, 07:51 PM | #372 |
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my therapist this week gave me readings on narcissism... like it's a problem that I'm always talking about myself or something. dude, at my therapy sessions, of course I'm going to talk about me, it's MY therapy sessions. LOL. The optics screams narcissism. he's not totally wrong though, but i'm not an unhealthy narcissist. Who else is gonna love me if I won't.
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07-21-2018, 08:47 PM | #373 | |
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It’s common for victims of this kind of abuse to feel like it “wasn’t that bad” because it’s a more subtle form of unconscious behaviors rather than getting beaten or yelled at every day. At the heart of it, its a form of abuse where parents use their child to mediate their own emotional states rather than raise a healthy autonomous individual who values themselves. It manifests in that whole “child who just wants to be free” thing in so many of Billy’s lyrics. Last edited by Funbags : 07-21-2018 at 09:03 PM. |
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07-21-2018, 08:56 PM | #374 |
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Oh ok so now he’s playing the victim on instagram? Doesn’t excuse how shitty he’s treated people over the years. People called you Belly because you wore a shirt three sizes too small on the Oceania tour btw.
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07-21-2018, 09:27 PM | #375 | |
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07-21-2018, 09:29 PM | #376 | |
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I think feeling self-centered for sharing your deepest problems with a therapist is more an indication that maybe you've never really been listened to or had your problems treated as meaningful. I dunno. I'm not an expert. Last edited by Funbags : 07-21-2018 at 09:42 PM. |
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07-21-2018, 11:04 PM | #377 |
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lol billy is screwed in the head
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07-21-2018, 11:12 PM | #378 |
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07-21-2018, 11:18 PM | #379 |
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07-22-2018, 04:16 AM | #380 | |
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07-22-2018, 05:50 AM | #381 | |
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Honestly I feel pissed off, how he is yearning for sympathy, but is behaving himself still like a douchebag... |
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07-22-2018, 11:50 AM | #382 |
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it's a cycle...if you want to believe he's changed, you can, but he hasn't. because he is so damaged inside that he is never himself - there is not a self to love. so thanks for the false epiphany, but the cycle will go on and we'll hear about some behavior that does not align with this enlightenment soon enough
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07-22-2018, 11:51 AM | #383 |
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he's just high on narcissistic supply right now (tour, fans and friends).
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07-22-2018, 05:01 PM | #384 | |
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07-22-2018, 05:34 PM | #385 |
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sort of sad to see that the Belly Corgan thing bothers his innermost being; maybe its back to lettuce in bed?
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07-23-2018, 02:16 AM | #386 |
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So that too became a thing, like when my Father called to tell me (I guess with concern?) that I was now being referred to as 'Belly Corgan' on FB.
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07-23-2018, 05:47 AM | #387 | |
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Because children from these types of homes lack the sense of connection to their authentic selves that healthy parenting provides, they become adults who seek out idealized romantic partners who reflect it. Someone who mirrors the inner child that had never been mirrored by a healthy adult parent. Siamese twins at the wrist. People who have these issues may have some narcissistic coping mechanisms, but true narcissists don't have a sense of wanting to express their inner authentic self. Because they have none. Last edited by Funbags : 07-23-2018 at 06:15 AM. |
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07-23-2018, 05:55 AM | #388 | |
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I can't believe Billy was recently dealing with his dad not showing an interest in his grandson. You share a stage with Bowie and your dad is still a prick. |
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07-23-2018, 06:06 AM | #389 | |
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07-23-2018, 06:15 AM | #390 |
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Why am I such a turd lately.
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