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Old 03-26-2014, 06:58 PM   #151
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i'm telling you guys, this has MonteIT*








































































































*written all over it

 
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Old 03-26-2014, 07:12 PM   #152
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So will he manage to make it past day two without missing an update.

 
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Old 03-26-2014, 07:12 PM   #153
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yeah slunken is still living in a fantasy world where people pay someone to "program" the website and then another guy to "design"

and in fact they are the same thing unless you're talking about really big sites
well, that distinction still exists, although it's true that a lot of designers working on the web do their own front-end dev. but design for the web is just a combination of graphic design and interaction design. most sites are content- rather than functionality-driven, so it's predominantly graphic design

 
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Old 03-26-2014, 08:26 PM   #154
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I know NOTHING about IT and I built a better blog site than that

 
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Old 03-26-2014, 08:27 PM   #155
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well, that distinction still exists, although it's true that a lot of designers working on the web do their own front-end dev. but design for the web is just a combination of graphic design and interaction design. most sites are content- rather than functionality-driven, so it's predominantly graphic design
well we're not talking about bank sites here are we

 
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Old 03-26-2014, 08:30 PM   #156
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on all of monte's sites, including MonteIT* the only fonts he uses are default type faces and ornamental SP fonts. i'm sure the only fonts he knows are SP fonts

so bill goes "hey monte i want someone to redo the site for free" and monte's like OMGZ SERIOUSLY YOU JUST MADE MY LIFE and bill's like 'uh okay' and then monte throws something together with Lansbury and bill goes "dude i'm kind of past that font' and monte's like oh fuck what do i do now and he just fiddles around until he finds the default system font that looks the most like what he thinks an SP font looks like, papyrus.

 
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Old 03-26-2014, 09:00 PM   #157
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well we're not talking about bank sites here are we
in my experience bank sites don't tend to include much design of any kind, either

 
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Old 03-26-2014, 09:02 PM   #158
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In my experience it has been functional websites that contain inventories and ways to purchase selections of thousands of items and also maintain that site. But they're looking for a book designer, for instance. Or a sign printer.

I tell them I can design that site but can't be responsible for building and maintaining it. That's a whole other can of worms.

 
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Old 03-26-2014, 09:51 PM   #159
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in my experience bank sites don't tend to include much design of any kind, either
i have a good one then, their app is dope too

 
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Old 03-26-2014, 09:52 PM   #160
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In my experience it has been functional websites that contain inventories and ways to purchase selections of thousands of items and also maintain that site. But they're looking for a book designer, for instance. Or a sign printer.

I tell them I can design that site but can't be responsible for building and maintaining it. That's a whole other can of worms.
yeah absolutely but this looks like a local band page

edit: you know actually it looks worse than some of the local band pages i've seen

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Old 03-26-2014, 10:09 PM   #161
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So todays update is some resistance pro interview.

It's like he wants the world to hate him.

 
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Old 03-26-2014, 10:11 PM   #162
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Jesus fucking christ.

 
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Old 03-26-2014, 10:25 PM   #163
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So will he manage to make it past day two without missing an update.
No. Kinda, but no.

 
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Old 03-26-2014, 10:28 PM   #164
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No. Kinda, but no.
Nice edit. You forgot a Jimmy winking gif.

 
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Old 03-26-2014, 10:30 PM   #165
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yeah absolutely but this looks like a local band page

edit: you know actually it looks worse than some of the local band pages i've seen
It looks worse then most 1996 Geocities pages. The only thing that makes it look marginally okay is that it's using some default layout and formatting.

It's like a tribute to some 90's SP fan site.

 
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Old 03-26-2014, 10:36 PM   #166
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It's like a tribute to some 90's SP fan site.
Monuments to an Elegy

http://i.imgur.com/DeNykHS.gif
http://i.imgur.com/oamXNDi.gif
http://i.imgflip.com/ewyz.gif

 
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Old 03-26-2014, 10:54 PM   #167
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Jimmy fucking slays.

I can't believe the Smashing Pumpkins drummer is now Mike Byrne

 
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Old 03-27-2014, 01:49 AM   #168
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Jimmy fucking slays.

I can't believe the Smashing Pumpkins drummer is now Mike Byrne

 
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Old 03-27-2014, 02:23 AM   #169
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That new website looks like something you would find when you use "The Wayback Machine".

By the way >>>

Here's the SP website from 2000:
http://web.archive.org/web/200010180...ofi/index.html

2001:
http://web.archive.org/web/200110310...ofi/index.html

 
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Old 03-27-2014, 02:26 AM   #170
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definitely possible

i would also believe they worked on it together
A great team.

http://splash.suntimes.com/wp-conten...4-682x1024.jpg

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http://splash.suntimes.com/2013/11/2...cago-fur-ball/

 
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Old 03-27-2014, 03:00 AM   #171
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well i meant her and monte but you know what

what if all three of them worked on this POS website, i'd believe that too

which would mean bill just doesn't care anymore, actually. because it's not like that was true of the album presentation and general art direction, which I'm SURE he had a big hand in, up until the last two

even machina, which i hated, was a fucking gorgeously packaged piece of artwork.

but ocieannaennrennerner is basically the liner notes equivalent of this website

 
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Old 03-27-2014, 03:27 AM   #172
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To my eyes the artwork went to another level as early as Zwan. Yea cute and all, but nowhere near the SP albums. Future Embrace wasn't ugly, but forgettable, absolutely ordinary.
And then came ""ahaha the zeitgeist is we-no-care-trash, and since I'm such a culture critic I'll make fun of it by doing an entire special edition wannabe KidA booklet featuring Paris fucking Hilton. Gotta DUMB IT DOWN."

And here we are now. Machina really was the end of artwork.

 
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Old 03-27-2014, 03:45 AM   #173
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maybe machina was the end of huge budgets?

 
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Old 03-27-2014, 03:54 AM   #174
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Machina was more or less the end of Yelena's involvement with SP's art direction.

 
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Old 03-27-2014, 04:03 AM   #175
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maybe machina was the end of huge budgets?

Sure.
but that's not a reason to go in a [...don't know the correct word] "unartsy bullshit" direction, just an excuse.
It's the same excuse regarding music videos. Yes the 90s are over bla the market changed bla there is no million dollar budget for a video.
As if you can't do a good, interesting, creative music video (or packaging design and album cover) for far less. It's an bullshit excuse to blame a reduced budget instead of admitting that you are simply too lazy or unimaginative to put work into it.

And the production costs of the Zeitgeist edition must have still been pretty high, you hardly ever see paper of that quality around by now.


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Machina was more or less the end of Yelena's involvement with SP's art direction.
Yes. Yelena wasn't only good, she is also working highly professional. And that's what has been missing for a long time, it's amateurism left and right. No matter if tshirt design, live sound mixing, handling of social media, or doing a weblive-stream via crestfallen.

Maybe he'll come round and step away from this DIY approach. Getting a producer for this album was a good first step.

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Old 03-27-2014, 04:05 AM   #176
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Old 03-27-2014, 05:26 AM   #177
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just saw the new site now.
why did billly changed the name to "...nexus", why nexus? nexus is old fashion already, it is not original, sounds bad. Bad fucking choice.
and why tha fuck is resistance pro and zuzus on a official SP site??? zuzus ad I could live with, it is something zen, odd teas etc... but resistance pro wrestling, shit amateur wrestling?

Why Billy Why?

This guy is really loosing all the feeling to touch the things.

 
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Old 03-27-2014, 05:30 AM   #178
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Old 03-27-2014, 05:37 AM   #179
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but resistance pro wrestling, shit amateur wrestling?

Why Billy Why?

It's hilarious that he announced his Reality TV wrestling show on the new website today.

The other thread should be renamed to "A continuing failure" .

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Old 03-27-2014, 05:42 AM   #180
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why did billly change the name to "...nexus", why nexus? ...it is not original ...
wrestling




http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...013/nexusb.jpg

http://www.321wa.com/images/upload/I...952_764603.jpg

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