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Old 04-06-2011, 05:25 PM   #121
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and yeah what i said wasn't rand, a simpleton like omega would think that. i didn't say you were a selfish person, I just said you were independent and I particularily meant financially.


Of course your langauge isn't as flowery as Rand's, but what you said reminded me of something she might say, a belief she might share.

and regardless, it's a funny quote coming from you because

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Essentially, all personal insults aside. Integral to the concept of being a "nice person" is being an independent one.
How do you sqaure this with your socialistic bent on redistributing wealth?

 
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Old 04-06-2011, 05:28 PM   #122
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Of course your langauge isn't as flowery as Rand's, but what you said reminded me of something she might say, a belief she might share.

and regardless, it's a funny quote coming from you because



How do you sqaure this with your socialistic bent on redistributing wealth?
you are such a motherfucking idiot

 
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Old 04-06-2011, 05:29 PM   #123
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nothing in socialism says that we should take care of alcoholic bums and couch surfers, that's the Reaganista myth. Everyone should work and everyone should get the benefits of their work, rather than the inequitable system of corruption and new nobility we have now where labor is mocked, maligned, and debased while the top cats rake in untold amounts of money, debt, and embarrassing sycophantic praise and worship from the education and media systems.

Income redistribution would not change the concept that a person should stand on their own, they would just get more of what they are due.

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Old 04-06-2011, 05:32 PM   #124
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you fucking chimpanzee.

 
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Old 04-06-2011, 07:09 PM   #125
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at least you admit your sophomoric. It lets people realize your admission to a low standard of argumentation and high level of intellectual bravado.


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Letting people keep more of what they earn is not income redistribution. At least not to anyone who isn't a commie.


I agree with the notion of a new nobility class, but those folks are the bankster types that own the Federal Reserve and lobby the congress against our interest. You typically call someone an anti-semite for wanting justice brought to those crooks because some of them may be Jewish.

 
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Old 04-06-2011, 08:07 PM   #126
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at least you admit your sophomoric
YOUR grammar certainly stopped developing sophomore year

 
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Old 04-06-2011, 11:22 PM   #127
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high school or college?

 
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Old 04-06-2011, 11:38 PM   #128
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i hear theyre coming out with a hobbit movie

 
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Old 04-06-2011, 11:53 PM   #129
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Is that the movie with the guy from Rudy?

 
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Old 04-07-2011, 01:11 AM   #130
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Letting people keep more of what they earn is not income redistribution. At least not to anyone who isn't a commie. .
I didn't advocate that at all actually i think you have no conception of what word "earn" means anymore, since you're so inundated with right-wing bullshit nonsense. The man who toils deserves more of a share of his keep, especially since the man at the top gets 98%. These men are not government figures, they are the CEOs and business men we're supposed to emulate and bow to. This has nothing to do with eliminating and instead the people using the government apparatus to equalize the playing field. There's no Rand at work here, guy.

The money is being stolen before the government has anything to do with it, and you just completely ignore all of it.


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I agree with the notion of a new nobility class, but those folks are the bankster types that own the Federal Reserve and lobby the congress against our interest. You typically call someone an anti-semite for wanting justice brought to those crooks because some of them may be Jewish.
You're the one who made the Jew jokes and circulate cartoons and "illustrations" that are crudely racist.

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Old 04-14-2011, 08:55 AM   #131
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First production vlog

 
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Old 04-15-2011, 10:05 AM   #132
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Nerd comparison time. How many reads per Tolkien work?

The Hobbit - five

The Lord of the Rings - three (though i've read the appendixes countless times)

The Silmarillion - six

The Children of Hurin - three (gonna read it again real soon)

The Histories of Middle-earth - zero (only read the lost tales. i lose)

 
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:21 PM   #133
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Red face The Hobbit comes out this week

yep, so after a nine year wait, the first Hobbit movie finally drops in a few days. I've heard a lot mixed things about it, especially the 48 fps thing, but I am pretty sure I will think it's fairly awesome no matter what.

I did hear though that Howard Shore hardly penned any new thematic motifs for the new movie though. Apparently most of the movie reuses the same theme music as LOTR for the Shire, Gandalf, the Ring, Gollum, etc., which is kind of disappointing because the music for LOTR was probably the best thing about it. Neil Finn from Crowded House is doing the end credits song though, which is kind of cool.

Will you guys see this? What are your expectations?

 
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:41 PM   #134
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Low expectations here. The Hobbit isn't nearly the story that The Lord of the Rings is, and I have mixed feelings about them padding out three movies using material cribbed from the appendices of The Return of the King (it's interesting, to be sure, but including it in The Hobbit might muddle the story). Good, not great, early reviews of The Hobbit are further tempering my expectations (sounds like the biggest complaints, apart from the rubbish 48fps thing, are that the movie seems a bit drawn out and that it takes an hour to really get rolling. I could say the same thing about the first LOTR movie, though...).

Seeing it in IMAX 3D. Heard that a trailer for the new Superman and Star Trek movies might be attached. I'm stoked for those almost as much as The Hobbit.

 
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Old 12-10-2012, 11:00 PM   #135
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to do the Hobbit properly I always thought they would have to draw all the stuff from the LOTR appendices into it anyway. Tolkien actually intended until pretty late in his life to go back and rewrite the Hobbit in the style of LOTR. Although I understand the charm of the quainter narrative voice in the Hobbit, LOTR has already been made so it doesn't make sense to not ******* all the peripheral stuff with Sauron and the White Council. I am more worried about all the EXTRA extra shit they will add... I think two movies was the preferable length of this. It seems like the whole first movie is going to be The Shire-->Rivendell-->Goblin caves and that is it.

 
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:57 AM   #137
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i have a feeling this is going to be kind of a flop. i'm not really feeling this.. but we'll see

hate to get ahead of myself but i'd like to see somebody else take on the series in about 15 years or so. even though these movies are modern classics i think some elements could have been adapted a little better

 
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:23 AM   #138
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It's kind of hard for me to imagine this not being good with PJ at the helm, even though I am sure it will have flaws

I don't really know if LOTR could have been adapted any better to reach the kind of audience it needed to resonate with in order to be successful and justify the unbelievable production costs. There are a few really facepalm moments throughout the movies, but for the most part I think they did a pretty good job at balancing Tolkien's vision with mainstream appeal

 
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:26 AM   #139
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big huge studio movie... expected to be let down. will still enjoy it stoned. snacks and shit.

 
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:37 AM   #140
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So all of you guys are willing to actually pay to see this? No second thoughts on how incredibly wrong this shit went?


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i don't mean to shit on jackson .. adapting something on this scale and being successful at it was a herculean task (at least with technology at the time). but what i feel it lacked from the books was that feeling like sauron really was on the verge of winning. that's what kept me glued to every page and made me go through return of the kind in a matter of days

its been too long for me to remember the name of the battle but on the second to last one where those ghost things come in at the last minute.. i remember in the book it was this huge AWW SHIT moment but in the movie it seemed like an afterthought. just things like that.. maybe it focused more on being epic and massive more than narrative nuance

but like i said the movies are modern classics. i'm just thinking ahead 15-30 years what could be done with it

 
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So all of you guys are willing to actually pay to see this? No second thoughts on how incredibly wrong this shit went?
what does that even mean

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its been too long for me to remember the name of the battle but on the second to last one where those ghost things come in at the last minute.. i remember in the book it was this huge AWW SHIT moment but in the movie it seemed like an afterthought. just things like that.. maybe it focused more on being epic and massive more than narrative nuance
have you seen the movies in awhile? I'm pretty sure that battle lasts for like a third of the movie

 
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That means that some people won't pay to see a movie that spent a shitload and abused animals for no other reason than a completely incompetent production.

 
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i'm talking about the battle's climax. its an example of how in the book you got more of a sense the characters were fucked until the dues ex machina. i bet people who haven't even read the book were pretty 'meh' when that happened but it was one of the biggest parts of the story.

like i said i just think the suspense wasn't there, and that was my favorite part of the book. but i admit i haven't seen the movies in awhile and everybody interprets books differently ect

 
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So all of you guys are willing to actually pay to see this? No second thoughts on how incredibly wrong this shit went?

yes

in 48fps imax

 
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Old 12-11-2012, 03:00 AM   #146
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i'm talking about the battle's climax. its an example of how in the book you got more of a sense the characters were fucked until the dues ex machina. i bet people who haven't even read the book were pretty 'meh' when that happened but it was one of the biggest parts of the story.

like i said i just think the suspense wasn't there, and that was my favorite part of the book. but i admit i haven't seen the movies in awhile and everybody interprets books differently ect

 
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yes

in 48fps imax
I read some reviews that say you get used to the 48fps after awhile, and another that said you will never get used to it, it just looks like a BBC made for television thing.

Apparently there is no motion blur in the whole movie and it just fucks with your head

 
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Everyone's recommending to see it in 24 fps first.

 
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:18 AM   #149
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omg, a sheep broke it's leg in a sink hole. Someone throw Peter Jackson in jail and cancel the hobbit.

 
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:20 AM   #150
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Peter Jackson mauled chickens with his bare hands, bit their little heads off, spit them on the ground and laughed maniacally.

 
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