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Old 04-04-2017, 07:34 PM   #31
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fuck you for talking down to me and telling me what i should be mad about you fucking asshole

wonkette is a shitrag run by a hillary shill that calls herself a communist btw

 
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Old 04-04-2017, 07:35 PM   #32
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I believe in the trotskilicous who inks the lavender skies with spite, god above with his own love, etc
he's not the trotskilicious netphoria deserves but he's the one we need right now

 
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Old 04-04-2017, 07:36 PM   #33
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like why is business insider more important ? its of similar non importance as jim chamberlin

 
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Old 04-04-2017, 07:36 PM   #34
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also it's the Business Insider article that's in question

 
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Old 04-04-2017, 07:38 PM   #35
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why are you a gatekeeper of what's more important all of a sudden

that business insider article is rewitten and republished by every other news outlet 1000 times an hour

 
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Old 04-04-2017, 07:41 PM   #36
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i'm saying "hey look at this symptom of societal disease, this world class virtuoso drummer thinks the only difference between success and failure is how much you practice." you go HAY YOU USED A WORD TO DEFINE THINGS LOL FUCKIN JACKOFF HERE THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT [ posts second hand article of hack liberal writer picking apart yet another neoliberal* thinkpiece about how poor people are poor because they choose to be which is another and related pillar of the philosophy ]

*oops, did it again ;(

 
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Old 04-04-2017, 07:59 PM   #37
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Old 04-04-2017, 08:00 PM   #38
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you have this personal investment in stuff like this & shitty movies don't you so when someone criticizes it you get all indignant

 
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Old 04-04-2017, 08:03 PM   #39
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that's hilarious... I actually came back here to add that "it's also like people who complain about 'virtue signaling' all the time" and lo and behold I see this post
like this is such fucking hypocritical self-serving crap too, because all you're doing here is virtue signalling non stop about how fucking moderate & centrist & rational you are and how you're above these "outrage culture" buzzphrases or whatever fucking tightrope you think you're walking

 
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Old 04-04-2017, 08:09 PM   #40
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I just like pushing buttons. Your retorts are clever

 
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Old 04-04-2017, 09:22 PM   #41
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You're making lots of very good points ITT Trots

 
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Old 04-04-2017, 09:47 PM   #42
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Old 04-04-2017, 09:49 PM   #43
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BORING NEWS regarding the SMASHING PUMPKINS:

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"We were talking about maybe doing a PUMPKINS-tour later on in the year, but nothing that really, nothing that was really making me go wild "this is gonna be amazing", right."

Doesn't sound like much interest in a reunion with James or even D'arcy...
I think the context is lost in this short quote. He was discussing routine stuff in the works versus new growth opportunities in 2017. A Pumpkins reunion isn't what challenges him as a musician in 2017. It isn't fair to say he's not interested.

 
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Old 04-05-2017, 02:15 AM   #44
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I think the context is lost in this short quote. He was discussing routine stuff in the works versus new growth opportunities in 2017. A Pumpkins reunion isn't what challenges him as a musician in 2017. It isn't fair to say he's not interested.
It's also irritating that Billy Corgan in March only announced a solo acoustic tour this fall, two weeks later from David Lagana corrected to happen next year...

I'm already sure his solo record won't come out this May

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Old 04-17-2017, 03:14 AM   #46
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for example, this is a textbook neoliberal self serving circular argument. he's successful because he practiced & worked hard and implies that people are not successful because they are weaker & work less & don't practice as much

its kind of annoying when office professionals say it but its exceptionally perspectiveless drivel when musicians, actors or athletes say it

i'm not trying to put down their hard work but there's lots of failures who worked very hard & practiced a lot. people need to be more concessionary to chance but that doesn't fit into the neoliberal attitude that success in the system & society is a merit based hierarchy so jim sits atop a mountain of someone else's songwriting, collecting royalty checks, and insists its because he "practices 8 hours a day" which, uh, many people can't do because they aren't collecting a paycheck every time "Tonight, Tonight" gets played

Good post. There's a lot of battles ordinary people face each day that Jimmy doesnt really have to concern himself with.

 
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Old 04-17-2017, 03:34 AM   #47
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despite any good points that might have been made, jimmy chamberlin is definitely a better musician and a better person than billy fucking corgan.

listened to the complex album yesterday for the first time in ages. it's not like a personal favourite or anything but it's just so easily on a higher level than anything billy has done in forever

 
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Old 04-17-2017, 03:35 AM   #48
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i once told jimmy after a JCC gig that i preferred his band to Billy's solo effort which was then recent.

he was like which i suppose is the correct answer to that. silly me.

 
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Old 04-17-2017, 04:08 AM   #49
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despite any good points that might have been made, jimmy chamberlin is definitely a better musician and a better person than billy fucking corgan.

listened to the complex album yesterday for the first time in ages. it's not like a personal favourite or anything but it's just so easily on a higher level than anything billy has done in forever
The thing that bugs me about the complex album is the mastering. It's far too compressed for a jazz fusion album.

 
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Old 04-17-2017, 08:03 AM   #50
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I think jimmy might have mentioned the practice thing because so many people have this misconception that musicians in bands party hard and don't have to work.

Even if he focuses on music now without having to worry about paying the bills, he's only in that situation because at some stage he took the risk every aspiring musician takes, and spent years of his life practising, lugging his drums around, carrying his crap into and out of venues, setting up and packing up, hardly getting paid, not getting paid, sleeping in a van, being hungry...

I don't think anyone would deny how much luck is involved in becoming a professional musician. The odds are terrible and everyone knows that. But I think he means that he became a professional musician and remains a professional musician because he's willing to put in a lot of practice hours, not because he was born being able to drum. I don't think he meant to imply he isn't extraordinarily lucky.

 
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Old 04-17-2017, 10:12 AM   #51
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i once told jimmy after a JCC gig that i preferred his band to Billy's solo effort which was then recent.

he was like which i suppose is the correct answer to that. silly me.
Everyone comes out with stupid shit when they're young. Most of the time when I look back I cringe.

 
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Old 04-17-2017, 12:29 PM   #52
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despite any good points that might have been made, jimmy chamberlin is definitely a better musician and a better person than billy fucking corgan.
oh yeah absolutely i just get tired of this inspirational speaker boilerplate that some of these guys give & wanted to make a point on it because jim has a very undefinable quality that even other excellent rock drummers don't have, so its not "only practice" there's something about your rolls for ability scores at character creation

bill's so far gone politically speaking its not even worth critiquing, just saying he's flat stupid & terrible is enough

 
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Old 04-17-2017, 12:39 PM   #53
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i once told jimmy after a JCC gig that i preferred his band to Billy's solo effort which was then recent.

he was like which i suppose is the correct answer to that. silly me.
im unsure of how to interpret his erm

was he saying like, 'yeh m8, i know, bc sux hard'

or?

 
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Old 04-17-2017, 12:45 PM   #54
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maybe ""i'm not comparing myself to him & i really wish you wouldn't"

 
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Old 04-17-2017, 12:59 PM   #55
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something like that i was afraid, yes

 
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Old 04-17-2017, 01:21 PM   #56
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ah, i see

 
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yeah

 
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Old 04-19-2017, 09:53 AM   #58
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wow a good thread on the sp board , imagine that

 
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i am trying to

 
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i'm not amish

 
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