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Old 03-25-2017, 05:15 PM   #31
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Album sucks.

Even Tommy Lee -the driving force behind one of the rockingest rock bands ever- couldn't breathe life into it.

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Old 03-25-2017, 10:59 PM   #32
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It really is inferior to Oceania, even though I like the main single - Being Beige - off of it more than I do The Celestials. Weirdly enough, Being Beige is one of my favorite songs post 2007.

Cool-ish little acoustic version of it with THE SHREDDER:


 
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Old 03-26-2017, 12:52 AM   #33
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Only track I like is "Tiberius"
Both Oceania and Monuments both fall flat
I can only tolerate two songs off Oceania

 
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Old 03-26-2017, 08:03 AM   #34
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UNTIL I'M READY ON MONDAY UNTIL I'M READY ON TUESDAY UNTIL I'M READY ON WEDNESDAY UNTIL I'M READY ON THURSDAY UNTIL I'M READY ON FRIDAY UNTIL I'M READY ON SATURDAY UNTIL I'M READY ON SUNDAY

 
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Old 03-26-2017, 10:47 AM   #35
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Here's my playlist:

1. One And All
2. Monuments
3. Drum + Five
4. Tiberius
5. Anaise!


That makes a pretty good EP.

 
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Old 03-26-2017, 11:31 AM   #36
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Album really does sound better coming out of iPhone speakers, try it

 
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Old 03-26-2017, 11:32 AM   #37
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Bonus: it pissed off the dude next to me enuff that he started turning the tp dispenser and now he's flushed and stormed out, so maybe can even squeeze a 'bate in now

 
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Old 03-26-2017, 11:33 AM   #38
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Workin on Sundays the worst, yall

That's the kinda music this is: workin on sunday music. You don't want to do it, but you have to do it, but it feels wrong so you don't get anything done anyway, just sit in the mens room and talk on nephtoria

And then your Sunday (and whole weekend) are dead and gone

 
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Old 03-26-2017, 11:34 AM   #39
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And in the toilet beneath you: beige, floaty, elegiac monuments to your dead fucken weekend

 
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Old 03-26-2017, 11:51 AM   #40
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I listened to it twice when it came out in 2014. Reading those blog posts Billy wrote in 2014 - about how much work and effort went into this album - made it that much more embarrassing that this was the album he emerged with. "Tiberius" has a couple cool riffs and "One and All" sounds like something the classic SP lineup could have played when testing levels before recording. The only song I genuinely enjoyed was "Anti-Hero."

The only silver lining that came from it all was that the commercial failure of the album really seemed to make Billy reevaluate what Smashing Pumpkins should be in this era. We got better shows and set lists, reuniting with James Iha and Jimmy Chamberlin, and a general attitude that he probably shouldn't release every fart and burp he records under the Smashing Pumpkins name.

 
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Old 03-26-2017, 07:31 PM   #41
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i genuinely disliked monuments and thought it sucked.

 
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Old 03-27-2017, 02:02 AM   #42
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Tommy Lee also did the drums on this pop/rock album from 2005, which is much better than Monuments



 
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Old 03-27-2017, 08:03 AM   #43
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The best thing about Monuments is all the sub-bass. It's a super bass-heavy album. especially compared to Oceania. i love the way the album is mixed, hard and heavy, there are just too many "meh" songs.

also, "Monuments" should have been the single.

 
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Old 03-27-2017, 09:59 AM   #44
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It's bad. Really bad. Tiberius is, like, 3/4 of the way to being a pretty legit song. The rest feel like under-developed ideas/skeletons.

I do think Being Beige is pretty OK, though. *dodges rotten fruit*

 
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Old 03-27-2017, 10:00 PM   #45
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His vocals are so so bad. Totally killed whatever positive vibes the song was inflicting
They weren't too bad. Billy really just suffered from not having any back-up vocals on that tour. In my opinion they're a necessity at this point in his career.

 
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Old 03-27-2017, 10:06 PM   #46
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I thought Monuments was a pretty good release.

I thought Oceania was meandering rubbish, and found M2E a sort of return to form (as far as SP 2 goes). I think Tommy Lee did a pretty good job, and it was refreshing to hear after so many years of Byrne, and Monuments featured Billys best vocal deliveries of the whole reunion.

Songs like One And All, Tiberius, Anti-Hero and Dorian are all pretty kick-ass.

Quite honestly, I couldn't really understand the negative reaction from everyone around here regarding it. Is it is could as his prime work? hell no. but way better than anything from TBK and Oash.

 
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Old 03-28-2017, 03:15 AM   #47
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Is it is could as his prime work?

LOL

 
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Old 03-28-2017, 03:17 AM   #48
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TBK and Oash? How do you even know these things? Me, I'm just ashamed I even know what sp2 is.

 
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Old 03-28-2017, 05:57 PM   #49
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Oceania is a far better album. but also ruined by terrible production.

It sounds like a Nickleback album.

 
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Old 03-28-2017, 08:20 PM   #50
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Honestly, Monuments was what really helped me get into SP. A couple months before it came out I had discovered some of the Mellon Collie b-sides (the only SP songs I knew and liked prior to that were Bullet, Bodies, and Shame) and was digging them and when Monuments came out I enjoyed it enough to start working my way backwards through the SP catalog. I very rarely, if ever, listen to it these days but I really liked it when it came out and still find it pretty enjoyable. It's just that everything else is that much better. I wasn't old enough to appreciate them in their prime so I don't have a lot of nostalgia there to fuel any hatred for SP2.

 
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Old 03-28-2017, 08:37 PM   #51
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Old 03-29-2017, 01:16 AM   #52
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Monuments is an important album to me, because it proved that the Smashing Pumpkins could release an album that I never have and never will give a single shit about.

 
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Old 03-29-2017, 01:20 AM   #53
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i never listened to it lmao

 
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Old 03-29-2017, 01:36 AM   #54
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if you dont like sp or billy get out of here!

 
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Old 03-29-2017, 02:59 AM   #55
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i liked that tiem when he was good 1989-1996

the flame that burns twice as bright lasts half as long

 
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Old 03-29-2017, 03:08 AM   #56
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Old 03-29-2017, 06:35 AM   #57
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How TO do you feel about Monuments?

 
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Old 03-29-2017, 07:36 AM   #58
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yes, TO

 
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Old 03-29-2017, 11:23 AM   #59
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Et to broot?

 
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Old 03-29-2017, 07:02 PM   #60
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lol, I non ironically still like Run2Me and it's the most reviled song on the album

it's just too cheesy and out there to be real, and that appeals to me

 
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