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Old 08-15-2014, 08:01 PM   #211
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but this is my favorite thing about m2
Same. It's really disappointing how much shit Machina II gets for its sound. I really like it.

Machina II is probably my second favourite SP album after Siamese Dream.

 
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Old 08-16-2014, 10:17 AM   #212
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everyone always complains about the noisy production of white spider and Real Love. i love them that way. it's an original take on the wall of fuzz for the year 2000. I still love it.

in white spider, is that a drum machine?

 
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Old 08-16-2014, 10:28 AM   #213
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The German version is SaturNEIN.

 
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Old 08-16-2014, 05:50 PM   #214
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white spyder is awesome but real love is a top 20 SP song

 
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Old 08-16-2014, 05:57 PM   #215
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Real Love is top 5

 
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Old 08-16-2014, 05:58 PM   #216
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Those vocals at the climax.

Goosebumps

 
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Old 08-16-2014, 06:10 PM   #217
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the songwriting itself is phenomenal. i really started appreciating it when i was learning to play it.

all the lyrics are amazing... maybe my favorite is:

In the eyes, behold, and you'll find the 21st century
You detonate her will and her widowed speech
Buried in the backyard shadow, the rusty coffee tin
That held her mother's first kiss in a nameless dream


The performance is great, I like how the chorus is non-linear and doesn't resolve neatly and when it turns into the ending with that build up it's just perfect.

Okay top 10.

 
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Old 08-16-2014, 06:17 PM   #218
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Yeah those lines really jump out at me.

I think it's like the perfect combination of SP elements in a lot of ways

 
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Old 08-17-2014, 01:52 AM   #219
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I love real love
I remember being hooked on it after I first heard it

but again, I'd still like to hear what a clearer mix of the song sounds like..

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Old 08-17-2014, 07:45 AM   #220
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The wall of sound is perfect on there.

The 'mother's first kiss' lyric creeps me out every time though

 
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Old 08-17-2014, 07:57 AM   #221
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I love real love
I remember being hooked on it after I first heard it

but again, I'd still like to hear what a clearer mix of the song song..
I have never heard of this song song, do you have a link please?

 
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Old 08-17-2014, 09:01 AM   #222
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search on youtube or get a torrent of Machina II

it's even on archive.org i think

the wall of sound might be kind a turn off at first (was for me), but after a bit it's awesome.

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Old 08-17-2014, 09:21 AM   #223
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the repetition of the lyric 'real love' works really well in this song.
I always thought it was a stab that billy framed jame's 'go' with real love and LMGTWTY. kind of a ribbing of "i know you wrote a love song, and we'll put it on the album, but we'll put it next to two of the best love songs i've ever written"


listen to some MII here
http://www.archive.org/details/machina.II.ver.Virgin
http://www.archive.org/details/machina.II.ver.Q101
http://www.archive.org/details/machina.II.ver.SPIFC
http://www.archive.org/details/machina.II.ver.Agnew
http://www.archive.org/details/machina.II.ver.13


shit do I love that album. best SP album ever.
please don't ruin it with the reissue.

how come billy hasn't tried to release a single off these re-issues? a "here's a song from 15 years ago, available for the first time" and give it a chance to chart? oh yeah, billy doesn't chart anymore?

 
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Old 08-17-2014, 09:28 AM   #224
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Can't be living in the pass

 
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Old 08-17-2014, 09:28 AM   #225
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Absolutely groundbreaking

 
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Old 08-17-2014, 09:33 AM   #226
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What rip is considered the best? Sounds like a tie between Virgin and Q101.

 
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Old 08-17-2014, 09:34 AM   #227
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If he can fix the mix on Real Love and White Spider, that'd be great.

 
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Old 08-17-2014, 09:38 AM   #228
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I have never heard of this song song, do you have a link please?
nah, I must've started typing something and then deleted it and fucked up the whole sentence

 
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Old 08-17-2014, 09:43 AM   #229
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What rip is considered the best? Sounds like a tie between Virgin and Q101.
I like the agnew rip the best. a little dirty, and the rip was done with a table that's a little faster (~3%), which give the song a faster pace and a higher pitch. That extra boost in frequency makes the songs that much more aggressive in the top end and billy's voice is that extra nasal because of it too. that much more in your face! (which I think was intended by the mix style to start off with)

 
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Old 08-17-2014, 11:52 AM   #230
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Old 08-17-2014, 11:53 AM   #231
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I like the agnew rip the best. a little dirty, and the rip was done with a table that's a little faster (~3%), which give the song a faster pace and a higher pitch. That extra boost in frequency makes the songs that much more aggressive in the top end and billy's voice is that extra nasal because of it too. that much more in your face! (which I think was intended by the mix style to start off with)
I like that one too, for some reasons songs like real love sound a bit clearer when listened from that source

 
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Old 08-17-2014, 12:24 PM   #232
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I can't wait for the Machina reissue.

 
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Old 08-17-2014, 12:52 PM   #233
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Old 08-17-2014, 01:13 PM   #234
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Old 08-26-2014, 01:50 PM   #235
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I've been watching the simpsons marathon.

Homerpalooza...

 
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Old 08-27-2014, 04:03 PM   #236
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If on Machina 1 originally, they replaced Crying Tree of Mercury with M2 Let me give the world to you, and replace Blue Skies with Blue Skies Version 1.....

 
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Old 08-28-2014, 10:52 PM   #237
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Would be nice to get a newer, hi-res rip of II.

And Real Love is the best.

 
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Old 08-29-2014, 10:22 AM   #238
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Hey i just saw the machina reissue post has like 300,000 views. the Adore reissue has like 70,000 views. I guess people are more interested in the Machina resissue than the adore?! Interesting . . .

 
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I'm all about Adore and can't wait for the box set to be in my hands. The first box set purchased from these reissues. I do plan on picking up Aeroplane and Mellon Collie next. Those were the reissues that I was most interested in.

 
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Hey i just saw the machina reissue post has like 300,000 views. the Adore reissue has like 70,000 views. I guess people are more interested in the Machina resissue than the adore?! Interesting . . .
This thread is older, there are also more threads about the Adore reissue

 
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