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02-21-2013, 07:48 AM
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Minion of Satan
 
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Hyundai: FORD: Walter E. Smithe: Last edited by amoergosum : 02-21-2013 at 09:18 AM. |
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02-21-2013, 07:58 AM
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Braindead
 
Location: PROWLING THE BADLANDS
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i'll piss on soundgarden cause they're in it for teh monay
-billiam patrick corgan |
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02-21-2013, 09:02 AM
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Minion of Satan
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Question: "So many people want to take your songs and use them for commercial reasons...advertisements...you know...some call it 'selling out'. Elaborate on why you choose not to do this?"
Billy Corgan at 0:40 >>> |
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02-21-2013, 09:09 AM
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Minion of Satan
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Billy Corgan: "I like to sell a lot of records...I like to make a lot of money...to me it's all good BUT....BUT....BUT...but...I will never fucking sell out."
At 2:07 >>> |
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02-21-2013, 09:18 AM
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Ownz
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How old is everyone here?
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02-21-2013, 09:51 AM
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Shut the fuck up!
 
Location: "Okay, white power feminist" - yo soy el mejor
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what the fuck does "sell out" even mean anymore? This is the band that 20 years ago set out to be "the biggest band in the world." in alt/punk terms THAT is selling out.
isn't it supposed to mean compromising your art for the sake of financial reward? If the music is 20 years old, is it selling out to license it? |
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02-21-2013, 10:02 AM
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Just Hook it to My Veins!
 
Location: František! How's the foot of your turtle?
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shut the fuck up, scotty.
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02-21-2013, 10:04 AM
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Shut the fuck up!
Location: "Okay, white power feminist" - yo soy el mejor
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you must spread some reputation around before giving it to Cool As Ice Cream again
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02-21-2013, 12:01 PM
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Apocalyptic Poster
 
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scotty is right
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02-21-2013, 12:51 PM
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Demi-God
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In the context of Billy Corgan, 'selling out' means either abandoning your principles or being a fake from the get-go. |
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02-21-2013, 04:49 PM
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Braindead
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God, it's embarrassing that any artist is insecure enough that they have to deny that they will ever "sell out". Just do whatever the fuck you want, it's your words and your music that you created to express yourself. If anyone gets upset about how you choose to use the music that you create, they're too obsessed and emotionally invested in you anyway.
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02-21-2013, 10:08 PM
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Just Hook it to My Veins!
Location: N3t4Euh Haus
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it's always fucking lame when an artist allows someone to co-opt their work to sell a product in exchange for money. it's embarassing to see SP songs in commercials
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02-21-2013, 10:11 PM
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Braindead
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It just seems so strange to me that "I will never fucking sell out" got one of the biggest cheers in that little speech. I'd be really creeped out if I was in that audience.
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02-22-2013, 02:22 AM
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Apocalyptic Poster
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Yes, it is precisely that Billy on so many occasions in the past has made a point of expressing his disdain for "selling out" that makes this rather unpalatable and jarring. But I do think Scotty is correct in the sense that writing songs and then letting them be used in commercials after the fact is different than writing songs expressly for commercials.
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02-22-2013, 03:49 PM
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Apocalyptic Poster
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02-22-2013, 04:10 PM
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BOTTLEG ILLEGAL
 
Location: I'm faced with so many changes that I just might change my face
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02-22-2013, 05:44 PM
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Saturday Night Goth
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I thought it was a zeitgeist leftover
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02-22-2013, 06:50 PM
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Banned
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no i'm pretty sure it was written for that commercial
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02-22-2013, 11:52 PM
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Minion of Satan
Location: Welcome to the real world jackass
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nope, it was a leftover track from Zeit sessions.
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02-23-2013, 12:09 AM
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BOTTLEG ILLEGAL
Location: I'm faced with so many changes that I just might change my face
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well it was only released on the commercial right (and some download on superbowl day?). whatever, close enough to a release via commercial
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02-23-2013, 12:18 AM
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Minion of Satan
Location: Welcome to the real world jackass
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nah, it was a throwaway. it would never have seen the light of day otherwise (with the possible future exception of a Zeitgeist bonus disc - gulp!) so it was a shrewd move from corgan (itself something of a rarity) to accept cash for something essentially worthless.
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02-23-2013, 02:47 PM
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Apocalyptic Poster
Location: silphomusic.com
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02-23-2013, 02:52 PM
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Virgo
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02-23-2013, 03:20 PM
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Socialphobic
 
Location: montreal
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wasn't the Z tracklist a sellout with exclusives to each bigbox store?
billy's a sellout and should be shot in the street like the whore that he is. |
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02-24-2013, 02:57 AM
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Apocalyptic Poster
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Sure, the multiple, just-slightly-different releases of the same album was an obvious cash-grab, but things like that are almost always contrived by the record company themselves in order to profit or at least re-coup the cost of advances to the band for studio production, tours, promotional efforts, etc. I'm sure the record company calls and is like, "you got a couple of extra songs there, because we were thinking...?" and then the band is like "Um...ok. We do have a couple demos we had worked on....".
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02-24-2013, 06:50 AM
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Minion of Satan
Location: ██████████
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COME ON AND FEELALO... COME ON AND FEELALO... FEELALO!
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02-24-2013, 12:28 PM
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Starbucks addicted minion
Location: Billy Corgan Kazoo Revue
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Led Zeppelin has been selling Cadillacs for years. Sell-outs.
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02-25-2013, 12:37 AM
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Apocalyptic Poster
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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And so has Hum. Fuck dat shiiiyat
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