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Old 09-07-2016, 12:33 PM   #1
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Default 7 Shades of Black is almost unlistenable.

It's so shrill and tries so hard to be heavy but it just sounds thin and Bobo sounds like he just woke up and he's singing about how his sister can't spell (prob cause it's really jesse in a wig)

I just distinctly remember it being the moment when I knew the album was fucked. Doomsday Clock was bad but I was like yeah but that's just the first song then 7SOB hits and you're like ugh

 
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Old 09-07-2016, 01:26 PM   #2
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I think they're both great.

 
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Old 09-07-2016, 02:50 PM   #3
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great song.. really like the vibe of it...

 
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Old 09-07-2016, 02:51 PM   #4
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i believe i like that one too.

 
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Old 09-07-2016, 03:03 PM   #5
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7 rocks of crack

 
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Old 09-07-2016, 03:22 PM   #6
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Yup, zeitgeist production is balls

 
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Old 09-07-2016, 03:26 PM   #7
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Like most of Zeitgeist, this track would've absolutely ripped with better/different production. Like imagine it being recorded in the vein of a song like Bodies. Would've translated much, much better.

 
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Old 09-07-2016, 03:42 PM   #8
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(it's really jesse in a wig)
that's messed up!

 
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Old 09-07-2016, 04:20 PM   #9
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I remember hearing an early live version of Bleeding the Orchid and thinking this was so bad ass and wanting to hear the studio version and then I did and was like WTF is this the same song and it was and that is the story of Zeitgeist.

 
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Old 09-07-2016, 04:45 PM   #10
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7shades kicks ass, it's just neutered on the record. the guitars are reedy and thin, the cymbals/hats have the goose pimpling swishiness of new, too tight corduroy pants. makes me wanna fart

 
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Old 09-07-2016, 05:18 PM   #11
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Honestly ZG would be up there with the Machinas if it had the AOL sessions Doomsday Clock, live version of Pomp, and United States

 
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Old 09-07-2016, 05:41 PM   #12
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i still don't understand how a producer like roy thomas baker could produce such a shitty sounding record

i mean, the guy who got to record freddie mercury, one of music's greatest vocalists ever, couldn't even tell something sounded horribly, horribly wrong with zeitgeist? that's just not fair

 
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Old 09-07-2016, 05:56 PM   #13
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I don't know what's so special about that AOL session. Sounds even more lifeless than the album to my ears.

 
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Old 09-07-2016, 05:57 PM   #14
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i still don't understand how a producer like roy thomas baker could produce such a shitty sounding record

i mean, the guy who got to record freddie mercury, one of music's greatest vocalists ever, couldn't even tell something sounded horribly, horribly wrong with zeitgeist? that's just not fair
I think the co-produced by Billy Corgan qualifier tells you all you need to know.

Besides, RTB only produced three songs that made the proper album and production-wise, they're probably the least offensive.

 
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Old 09-07-2016, 05:58 PM   #15
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Also, it's probably a case of a virtuoso losing his touch. Same reason George Romero and John Carpenter can't direct for shit anymore. And also why the Billy Corgan of the last decade and a half sucks.

 
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Old 09-07-2016, 06:18 PM   #16
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I think the co-produced by Billy Corgan qualifier tells you all you need to know.

Besides, RTB only produced three songs that made the proper album and production-wise, they're probably the least offensive.
Yeah the bonus DVD is really misleading about RTB, seems he didn't have that much involvement at all.

 
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Old 09-07-2016, 10:06 PM   #17
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The song sucks, the album sucks, SP2 sucks, you all suck, and., I believe, your mother also sucks.

 
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Old 09-07-2016, 10:35 PM   #18
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i still don't understand how a producer like roy thomas baker could produce such a shitty sounding record

i mean, the guy who got to record freddie mercury, one of music's greatest vocalists ever, couldn't even tell something sounded horribly, horribly wrong with zeitgeist? that's just not fair
A producer ultimately serves the artist, and I have no doubt that the "problem" aspects of this album originated with Billy.

 
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Old 09-08-2016, 09:01 AM   #19
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It sounds great. They all sound great.
lol jesus christ this guy.

 
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Old 09-08-2016, 12:11 PM   #20
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she thinks lots of songs are about her.
as does courtney.

billy's got a history of dating dumb girls - so it could be about anyone.

 
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Old 09-08-2016, 12:29 PM   #21
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seemed a little nutso.
she was commitable.

 
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Old 09-08-2016, 12:55 PM   #22
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Courtney Love is an awful guitarist and I bet their sex was disgusting.

 
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Old 09-08-2016, 01:15 PM   #23
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She is awful guitarist and I bet the sex was dirty and good

 
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Old 09-08-2016, 01:34 PM   #24
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She is awful guitarist and I bet the sex was dirty and good
do you think he let her fart in his mouth?

 
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Old 09-08-2016, 10:48 PM   #25
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Crazy women are usually a blast in bed. Billy knows what he's doing.

 
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Old 09-09-2016, 01:15 AM   #26
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how many times do you think he fucked her while she still had some other dudes semen drooling out of her ragged vag?

 
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Old 09-09-2016, 07:41 PM   #27
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Old 09-09-2016, 07:50 PM   #28
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isn't this song supposedly about that "fische" woman? that's the where the whole 'sister can't you spell?' line comes from iirc..there was also this web cam video she made from a hotel room in hawaii or someplace where she's talking about being soul mates with BC... am i crazy or did this happen?
i mean, this is true according to her... but she obviously has persistent ideas of reference so... and she also said they got married

 
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Old 09-09-2016, 09:34 PM   #29
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fairly certain i've succeeded in mentioning this every time this song comes up in a thread, but i remember hearing the live version first, and thinking the chorus went, "there's only one shade of black" instead of "cause i want you bad."

does it make sense? cohere with the rest of the lyrics/title? perhaps not.

is it a cooler lyric? i think yes!

 
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Old 09-09-2016, 09:40 PM   #30
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i do like the couplet rhyme scheme, though. feels almost sloppy, which fits the tone/theme

 
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