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Old 05-22-2020, 12:55 PM   #1
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Default Has Bill ever commented on the fact that he hired Jeff and Ginger as lookalikes?

Knowing how much Bill is focused on calculated aesthetics and obsessing over trying to recreate the past, has he ever said anything about why he hired an asian guitarist and a female bassist in 2007 to try surely convince casual fans who wouldn't know the difference?

 
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Old 05-22-2020, 01:37 PM   #2
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yes, actually if you look at the interview from about a decade ago (brought to my attention by our very own incubator) you'll find this:

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It's quite simple really. The kids don't care if you can play your instrument. They don't care if you can write a tune. What the kids care about is if you have an Asian man & an attractive, preferrably blonde female in your merry troupe. As you can see I've done a pretty stellar job of replacing the old cronies - who, let's be honest, were more fashion icons than musicians - and what's more, they can actually play! God Zeitgeist was a good fucking album wasn't it?

 
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Old 05-22-2020, 01:45 PM   #3
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I wouldn't say Ginger was a look-alike at all, just another female bass player. In the old days Bill had spoken about how having a woman in the band was important, and they had already replaced D'arcy with another woman once.

Replacing James with a half-asian guy is weirder to me. I guess as cynical as I am about Corgan, I still want to think he didn't choose Jeff specifically because of his race. The two of them have a good chemistry as guitarists, and seem to genuinely like each other. Jeff has now been playing consistently with Billy for longer than any other musician in his life.

 
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Old 05-22-2020, 02:48 PM   #4
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jeff is still in the band?

 
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Old 05-22-2020, 02:51 PM   #5
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jeff?

 
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Old 05-22-2020, 02:54 PM   #6
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Who is jeff

 
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Old 05-22-2020, 02:55 PM   #7
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u kno dis guy:


 
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Old 05-22-2020, 03:00 PM   #8
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Jeff Schroeder Goes on Homophobic Rant About 'Harry Potter's' Dumbledore:

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“I don’t think it’s the right thing to have a little kid’s book and have the headmaster that you’re locked away with in a magical land be gay” he said. “I don’t think that’s the right thing to do.”

 
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Old 05-22-2020, 04:05 PM   #9
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Consequence of Sound has been notified

 
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Old 05-23-2020, 10:28 AM   #10
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According to interviews (Zeitgeist DVD I think) Jimmy picked them first, there was no intention to have an Asian and/or a girl in the band, it just happened. Before Ginger, they were playing with Eric Avery, but it didn't work out, then there was this girl called Jenny or something like that, and then Ginger.

 
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Old 05-23-2020, 11:59 AM   #11
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I remember that too. No idea about Ginger but Jeff was Jimmys hire.

 
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Old 05-23-2020, 01:43 PM   #12
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Mark Tulin was killed specifically because he wasn't a hot female bassist and Corgan no longer had a use for him.

 
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Old 05-23-2020, 02:30 PM   #13
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Bill was too busy getting massages and drinking Voss water to audition anyone.

 
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Old 05-23-2020, 04:00 PM   #14
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Only to find out that Voss has mind-controlling fluoride in it and switch to Acqua Panna.

 
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Old 05-23-2020, 09:42 PM   #15
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This is the "shapeshifter" he was talking about on the podcast that time.

edit: Jeff / Ginger IS the shapeshifter.

Last edited by enthusaroo : 05-23-2020 at 11:41 PM.

 
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Old 05-27-2020, 02:18 AM   #16
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Ginger is a babe.

 
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Old 05-27-2020, 05:19 AM   #17
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Ginger is a babe.
good sir, are you really the pope of butts?

 
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Old 05-27-2020, 07:02 AM   #18
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Yes, my dad can confirm this.

Btw, Buttpope also calls him "babe," amongst other things ("Honey-bun," "stud munchkin," "BBB" [bubble-butt-boy] etc etc).

 
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Old 06-10-2020, 03:42 PM   #19
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good sir, are you really the pope of butts?
Dabbling in butts is a Jesuit tradition.

 
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Old 02-21-2023, 01:16 AM   #20
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Lol

 
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Old 02-21-2023, 05:03 AM   #21
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Has Bill ever commented on the fact that he hired Jeff and makes love to female James?

 
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Old 02-21-2023, 07:03 AM   #22
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ginger and Jeff were lookalikes?

 
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Old 02-21-2023, 07:34 AM   #23
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Goddamn imagine being a really cool Christian alt musician and then you get recruited into ZEITGEIST ERA PUMPKINS????? like it’s a super good opportunity and you have to take it but it ruins your reputation forever because the music is so blatantly forgettable

 
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Old 02-21-2023, 07:34 AM   #24
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Imagine you are forever judged by the guitar leads you came up with for billy corgans 2014 compositions

 
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Old 02-21-2023, 07:35 AM   #25
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Jeff has stronger “SP1 vibes” than even billy himself and you all just wanna talk shit

 
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Old 02-21-2023, 10:50 AM   #26
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Ladies Love Cool Jeff

 
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Old 02-21-2023, 11:01 AM   #27
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What's a Jeff?

 
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Old 02-21-2023, 01:03 PM   #28
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Old 02-21-2023, 10:09 PM   #29
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I have never really gotten Jeff. Like, he has absolutely zero stage presence and really comes off as unmusical. Jeff is as absurd of a hire as Mike was.

 
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Old 02-21-2023, 10:43 PM   #30
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is long haired jeff the worst jeff?

 
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