Machina reissue a go - Page 68

VoxUpDoc · 03-01-2020, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smashingjj

I still think Machina is really fucking bad, but it must be relatively fantastic considering what came after

Slow Dawn
Vanity
Lucky 13
Real Love
Home
LMGTWTY
Innosense
Dross
Go
BSBT Electrique

None of this is bad. Let alone “really fucking bad”.
It’s some of the band‘s best work.

Forgotten Child · 03-01-2020, 10:01 AM

You mean, all the songs that aren't part of machina? I see.

FoolofaTook · 03-01-2020, 10:10 AM

makes a list of best machina songs

doesn't in-clude speed killz or bsbt spacey

Kahlo · 03-01-2020, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eulogy

Holy shit we just found Machina II on vinyl. Apparently only 500 were pressed. It sounds *amazing*

M2 on vinyl? What is the source? I don't see what relevance the number has as it's a bootleg. Still, would be curious to see this / perhaps get a copy.
I see it is banned from discogs etc.

Kahlo · 03-01-2020, 10:29 AM

Is this the one you have? Interesting that the 4th disk is a random assortment of SP/ BC related tracks.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/39227480494...QaAu1NEALw_wcB

FoolofaTook · 10:15 PM

Imagine if Machina I was an EP. Do it!!!

I of the Mourning
Stand Inside Your Love
This Time
Wound
Age of Innocence
Speed Kills (Spacey)
Blue Skiez Bring Tearz (Spacey)

VoxUpDoc · 03-01-2020, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

makes a list of best machina songs

doesn't in-clude speed killz or bsbt spacey

Both versions of Speed Kills are great and I don't know how to pick between them.

BSBT FAEOMM isn't as good as the heavy version imo.

Here's to the Atom Bomb rock version deserved more than a b-side... the new wave version did not.

FoolofaTook · 03-01-2020, 03:12 PM

1. You could of just picked both Speed Kills's.

2. Put down the crack//pipe.

3. Who said anything about Atom Boob?

Eulogy · 03-01-2020, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kahlo

Is this the one you have? Interesting that the 4th disk is a random assortment of SP/ BC related tracks.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/39227480494...QaAu1NEALw_wcB

Yes. It is so good.

enthusaroo · 03-01-2020, 08:30 PM

I think the last 20 years Billy has just made really bad music in order to hype up Machina as the last good music he ever made. Seems like something Billy would do.

trev · 03-01-2020, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

Imagine if Machina I was an EP.

so i'm guessing the rules are only 5 tracks, only machina 1 versions allowed, and speed kills (from the jap version) is out of bounds?

i like your list, but would add hmm and g+tgc to the short list and not know how to cut it down to 5 from there.

FoolofaTook · 03-01-2020, 10:15 PM

yeah I guess we could push it up to six or seven. i'd add speed killz spacey and bsbt spacey.

VoxUpDoc · 03-02-2020, 04:47 AM

An EP with HMM and G&TGC is already *fart noise*

Kahlo · 03-02-2020, 11:17 AM

Or: Le Deux Machina, thirty times.

BillyBaldhead · 03-02-2020, 12:27 PM

I rearranged those machina songs and came away with this, what do you think?

1.le deux machina
2 heavy metal machine
3.white spyder
4.everlasting gaze
5.the imploding voice
6.dross
7.lucky 13
8.blue skies bring tears(electique version)
9.soul power
10.heres to the atom bomb
11. I of the mourning
12. Raindrops and sunshine
13.let me give the world to you
14. Try try try
15. Innosense
16. Age of innocence

1.if there is a god
2.glass and ghost children
3. Vanity
4. Speed kills
5.glass
6. Cash car star
7. Real love
8. Stand inside your love
9. Sacred and profane
10. Wound
11. Blue skies bring tears slow version
12. In my body
13. Home
14. Slow down
15. Saturnine

FoolofaTook · 03-02-2020, 12:38 PM

we're doing machina I ep OK?

Get with the program, sheesh!

Joey Goldberg · 03-02-2020, 01:04 PM

fuck that, you only build Machina, you don't break it down

i'm warning you

FoolofaTook · 03-02-2020, 01:17 PM

Shadaloo · 03-02-2020, 05:02 PM

Speed Kills 2008 live thx

reprise85 · 03-02-2020, 05:52 PM

machina ep you say?

slow dawn
speed kills
real love
glass ghost children
in my body
wound

i'd sneak saturnine in there if there was room. maybe after real love? i could also see it possibly replacing slow dawn

Joey Goldberg · 03-02-2020, 06:00 PM

but like

why????!?!?!?

Joey Goldberg · 03-02-2020, 06:00 PM

is the insinuation that this would the only thing released from the Machina period

or just a fun little thing to bring on trips where you may want a little 'chines of God "hit"

FoolofaTook · 03-02-2020, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reprise85

machina ep you say?

slow dawn
speed kills
real love
glass ghost children
in my body
wound

i'd sneak saturnine in there if there was room. maybe after real love? i could also see it possibly replacing slow dawn

interesting. I agree with 1, 2, and 5. And saturnine is awesome. but I was saying just machina I tracks. machina II could have it's own ep. then we could put then together for the ultimate machina album!

FoolofaTook · 03-02-2020, 06:08 PM

something like this:

i of the mourning
stand inside your love
this time
wound
age of innocence
speed kills (spacey)
bsbt (spacey)
slow dawn
vanity
saturnine
speed kills (heavy)
home

booyashaka!

FoolofaTook · 03-02-2020, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey Goldberg

but like

why????!?!?!?

mals pls

FoolofaTook · 03-02-2020, 06:10 PM

instead we're getting 7 discs with 14 versions of bsbt acoustic demos and alternate takes of le deux machina.

Joey Goldberg · 03-02-2020, 07:04 PM

"you don't know that"

reprise85 · 03-02-2020, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

interesting. I agree with 1, 2, and 5. And saturnine is awesome. but I was saying just machina I tracks. machina II could have it's own ep. then we could put then together for the ultimate machina album!

alright machina I, i'm trying to take this kinda in a different direction than i normally would:

wound
age of innocence
blue skies
try x3
sacred and profane
with every light

my normal kind of 'machina I' ep is more like

TEG
SIYL
wound
try x3
G G C
WEL

the orange peel show i saw in '07, they ended with WEL and now it's stuck in my ultimate machina at the end.

trev · 03-02-2020, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

just machina I tracks. machina II could have it's own ep. then we could put then together for the ultimate machina album!

slow dawn
dross
iotm
vanity
siyl
go
lucky 13
hmm (m1)
gatgc
wound
this time
real love
speed kills
age

really tough to leave off try (m2) and home though

Joey Goldberg · 03-02-2020, 10:03 PM

Everlasting Gaze
Stand Inside
I of the Mourning
This Time
Wound
With Every Light

Cash Car Star
Dross
Let Me Give the World
In My Body
Here's to the Atom Bomb

Blue Skies Bring Tears (Arising Version)
Speed Kills (B-side Version)

there, put those tracks in some sort of sensible order & you have potentially my favorite Pumpkins album ever

03-01-2020, 11:39 AM	#2016
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218	Imagine if Machina I was an EP. Do it!!! I of the Mourning Stand Inside Your Love This Time Wound Age of Innocence Speed Kills (Spacey) Blue Skiez Bring Tearz (Spacey) Last edited by FoolofaTook : 03-01-2020 at 10:15 PM.

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03-01-2020, 10:01 AM	#2012
Forgotten Child Apocalyptic Poster Location: SP, Sao Paulo - Brazil Posts: 4,876	You mean, all the songs that aren't part of machina? I see.

03-01-2020, 10:10 AM	#2013
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218	makes a list of best machina songs doesn't in-clude speed killz or bsbt spacey

03-01-2020, 10:29 AM	#2015
Kahlo Registered User Posts: 17,539	Is this the one you have? Interesting that the 4th disk is a random assortment of SP/ BC related tracks. https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/39227480494...QaAu1NEALw_wcB

03-01-2020, 03:12 PM	#2018
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218	1. You could of just picked both Speed Kills's. 2. Put down the crack//pipe. 3. Who said anything about Atom Boob?

03-01-2020, 08:30 PM	#2020
enthusaroo Apocalyptic Poster Location: ameriKKKa Posts: 2,749	I think the last 20 years Billy has just made really bad music in order to hype up Machina as the last good music he ever made. Seems like something Billy would do.

03-01-2020, 10:15 PM	#2022
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218	yeah I guess we could push it up to six or seven. i'd add speed killz spacey and bsbt spacey.

03-02-2020, 04:47 AM	#2023
VoxUpDoc Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,881	An EP with HMM and G&TGC is already fart noise

03-02-2020, 11:17 AM	#2024
Kahlo Registered User Posts: 17,539	Or: Le Deux Machina, thirty times.

03-02-2020, 12:27 PM	#2025
BillyBaldhead Amish Rake Fighter Posts: 7	I rearranged those machina songs and came away with this, what do you think? 1.le deux machina 2 heavy metal machine 3.white spyder 4.everlasting gaze 5.the imploding voice 6.dross 7.lucky 13 8.blue skies bring tears(electique version) 9.soul power 10.heres to the atom bomb 11. I of the mourning 12. Raindrops and sunshine 13.let me give the world to you 14. Try try try 15. Innosense 16. Age of innocence 1.if there is a god 2.glass and ghost children 3. Vanity 4. Speed kills 5.glass 6. Cash car star 7. Real love 8. Stand inside your love 9. Sacred and profane 10. Wound 11. Blue skies bring tears slow version 12. In my body 13. Home 14. Slow down 15. Saturnine

03-02-2020, 12:38 PM	#2026
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218	we're doing machina I ep OK? Get with the program, sheesh!

03-02-2020, 01:04 PM	#2027
Joey Goldberg Minion of Satan Location: andy dick NAKED Posts: 8,227	fuck that, you only build Machina, you don't break it down i'm warning you

03-02-2020, 01:17 PM	#2028
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218

03-02-2020, 05:02 PM	#2029
Shadaloo Apocalyptic Poster Location: up on the cross you go little fella Posts: 2,676	Speed Kills 2008 live thx

03-02-2020, 05:52 PM	#2030
reprise85 BOTTLEG ILLEGAL Location: I'm faced with so many changes that I just might change my face Posts: 32,800	machina ep you say? slow dawn speed kills real love glass ghost children in my body wound i'd sneak saturnine in there if there was room. maybe after real love? i could also see it possibly replacing slow dawn

03-02-2020, 06:00 PM	#2031
Joey Goldberg Minion of Satan Location: andy dick NAKED Posts: 8,227	but like why????!?!?!?

03-02-2020, 06:00 PM	#2032
Joey Goldberg Minion of Satan Location: andy dick NAKED Posts: 8,227	is the insinuation that this would the only thing released from the Machina period or just a fun little thing to bring on trips where you may want a little 'chines of God "hit"

03-02-2020, 06:08 PM	#2034
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218	something like this: i of the mourning stand inside your love this time wound age of innocence speed kills (spacey) bsbt (spacey) slow dawn vanity saturnine speed kills (heavy) home booyashaka!

03-02-2020, 06:10 PM	#2036
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218	instead we're getting 7 discs with 14 versions of bsbt acoustic demos and alternate takes of le deux machina.

03-02-2020, 07:04 PM	#2037
Joey Goldberg Minion of Satan Location: andy dick NAKED Posts: 8,227	"you don't know that"

03-02-2020, 10:03 PM	#2040
Joey Goldberg Minion of Satan Location: andy dick NAKED Posts: 8,227	Everlasting Gaze Stand Inside I of the Mourning This Time Wound With Every Light Cash Car Star Dross Let Me Give the World In My Body Here's to the Atom Bomb Blue Skies Bring Tears (Arising Version) Speed Kills (B-side Version) there, put those tracks in some sort of sensible order & you have potentially my favorite Pumpkins album ever