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Old 03-28-2010, 04:21 PM   #1
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Default Ugh Astral Planes is going to be so bad.

It has literally zero redeeming qualities and I don't know how any studio trickery (more like butchery) is going to make it any better.

This project is just getting worse and worse as time goes on.

 
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Old 03-28-2010, 05:05 PM   #2
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many, many more to come

 
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Old 03-28-2010, 05:43 PM   #3
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you'll get over it you moaning minnie

 
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Old 03-28-2010, 06:11 PM   #4
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The kicker, for me, is the Chris Isaak interview where B is going on and on about how awesome he is as a lyricist and that's how he's going to be remembered in the annals of rock. Yet he keeps spitting out this trite, sing-songy garbage. He's thisclose to rhyming "brain" with "insane".

 
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Old 03-28-2010, 06:24 PM   #5
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ill love it

 
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Old 03-28-2010, 08:38 PM   #6
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If bill were to rhyme "brain" with "membrane" my respect for him would increase immensely

 
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Old 03-28-2010, 10:08 PM   #7
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I'm actually looking forward to this as it was my favorite from the spirits shows well i really love Freak too

 
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Old 03-29-2010, 06:04 AM   #8
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It has literally zero redeeming qualities and I don't know how any studio trickery (more like butchery) is going to make it any better.

This project is just getting worse and worse as time goes on.
how do you even know this song? did you really check out those spirits in the skies shows? looks like your interest levels are still much higher than mine. you don't impress me with your decision to not buy zeitgeist. meh! fanboy!

 
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Old 03-29-2010, 06:11 AM   #9
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looks like your interest levels are still much higher than mine. you don't impress me with your decision to not buy zeitgeist.
Don't you own dozens of copies of Zeitgeist?

 
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Old 03-29-2010, 09:03 AM   #10
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Don't believe everything Esty tells you.

I'd honestly forgotten about this joke of a project.

 
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Old 03-29-2010, 05:12 PM   #11
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I've not been really looking forward to this one either, but at least it'll be a change in sound from the first three songs. It'll be interesting to see how the recording turns out on a song that is supposed to be loud and distorted instead of the acoustic-y stuff on the first three.

 
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Old 03-29-2010, 05:22 PM   #12
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when can we expect this masterpiece to drop

 
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Old 03-29-2010, 05:31 PM   #13
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I actually like Freak, but Astral Planes is godawful.

I just don't get what happened to his ability to write interesting lyrics, the choruses are all so repetitive and lame nowadays.

 
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Old 03-29-2010, 06:58 PM   #14
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when can we expect this masterpiece to drop
I'd expect mid-April. I bet they release it right around the time of that Record Store Day show to drum up excitement.

 
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Old 03-30-2010, 06:55 PM   #15
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the wait hurts worse than the blows

 
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Old 03-30-2010, 07:27 PM   #16
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It'll be far more interesting to see what excuses you will offer for it when this shit drops. That's what I'm anticipating.
Yeah, because I've been raving about the other songs so much to this point.

Just because I don't buy into the idiotic "Worst. Song. Ever." line that people here take every time something new comes out doesn't mean I think the songs released so far are not pretty far below standard.

 
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Old 03-30-2010, 08:27 PM   #17
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It could be okay. I could see the song being built up into one of those SP power jams in the end. but the live song itself seems like WWMM singalong type fare so who knows

 
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Old 03-30-2010, 08:54 PM   #18
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Every time something new comes out? Come now, you are exaggerating. People were very excited listening to the Zwan bootlegs, TFE is actually still liked by some people here nowadays, Tarantula was greeted quite positively, there were people who liked Zeitgeist and most still love Stellar, and I'm sure that there are some songs from AG that are viewed as decent.

It's only lately (GLOW, FOL, TBK) that there's been a nigh unanimous cry of "utter bullshit."
That's kinda my point though. In my mind, TBK has been every bit as middling as American Gothic was. (If anything, TBK has been damn near American Gothic II so far.) Yet, the reaction to TBK has been so much more pronounced in its negativity (not that AG got a positive response...more like "ehhhh"), and it just doesn't make sense to me.

But regardless, I don't see myself bending over backwards to tell everyone Astral Planes is good unless it's good. I didn't like the song played live (mainly because of Linda's vocals, which I usually like), so it would have to be a massive improvement to warm me up to it. If it's loud, raw, and the repetitiveness of the lyrics is dealt with..maybe it'll have a chance with me. But I fear it's gonna be drowned in bad sounding synth and be about 2 minutes too long.

 
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Old 03-30-2010, 09:04 PM   #19
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I've said it before but TBK is the SP/corgan take on 70s folk rock. So right there you're going to lose a lot of people. But f you can get past that I don't see how you couldn't dislike it any more than zeitgeist. I think already its a vast improvement but you can't really tell with 3 songs

 
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Old 03-30-2010, 10:18 PM   #20
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That's kinda my point though. In my mind, TBK has been every bit as middling as American Gothic was. (If anything, TBK has been damn near American Gothic II so far.) Yet, the reaction to TBK has been so much more pronounced in its negativity (not that AG got a positive response...more like "ehhhh"), and it just doesn't make sense to me.

But regardless, I don't see myself bending over backwards to tell everyone Astral Planes is good unless it's good. I didn't like the song played live (mainly because of Linda's vocals, which I usually like), so it would have to be a massive improvement to warm me up to it. If it's loud, raw, and the repetitiveness of the lyrics is dealt with..maybe it'll have a chance with me. But I fear it's gonna be drowned in bad sounding synth and be about 2 minutes too long.

Expectations my friend. When Bill promotes something as his greatest work since the 90s people aren't expecting some crappy folk/pop fodder and a new age hippy spaced out Feature in Rolling Stone.

 
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Old 03-30-2010, 10:45 PM   #21
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Going with the set timeline, this song should be out next week.

 
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Old 03-31-2010, 03:34 AM   #22
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Old 03-31-2010, 09:16 AM   #23
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Hey Micky

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Old 03-31-2010, 10:12 AM   #24
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Not anymore - I quit because the place is frequented by retards (of a lesser quality than here)

Anyway, are you still optimistic about Teargarden?

 
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Old 03-31-2010, 10:40 AM   #25
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kahlo, did you quit or did they fire you?

 
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Old 03-31-2010, 10:58 AM   #26
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kahlo is the new pumpkin queen!

 
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Old 03-31-2010, 11:03 AM   #27
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Always thweetheart

Nah I had to quit before I was fired.

 
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Old 03-31-2010, 11:31 AM   #28
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Going with the set timeline, this song should be out next week.
It'd make sense to release it tomorrow, with it being April Fools Day and this album supposedly being to be the story of the Fool. Won't happen though.

 
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Old 03-31-2010, 12:17 PM   #29
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The kicker, for me, is the Chris Isaak interview where B is going on and on about how he's going to be remembered as an anus.

 
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Nah I had to quit before I was fired.
But I heard they fired you and mentioned something about a white van...

 
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