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Old 10-12-2017, 07:47 PM   #1
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Default SPIN-Interview 2017: "William Patrick Corgan Is Living the Dream"

Interview of WPC with Ian Cohen, SPIN-Magazine October 12, 2017

https://www.spin.com/featured/willia...ala-interview/


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What do you mean by ďscarlet letterĒ?
You know, ďthere he is making a funny face at Disneyland.Ē All that stuff. I do a synthesizer show at my tea house, which is free by the way, for thirty people, and it gets these write-ups about how Iíve lost my mind. Itís all a bit silly, but youíre obviously valuable to a particular group for a particular set of reasons. Is it generational? Is it a need to have pariahs so they can lift their heroes higher? I mean, whatever. But the conversation exists because of the proportionality that I listed, which is: Iím a skilled person. If I wasnít a skilled person, there wouldnít be anything to talk about. Iím not sitting here, ďnah nah nah,Ē like a little kidís ďnah nah nahĒ phase. Itís not like that. It obviously hasnít changed my path. I mean, Iíve done stupid things in reaction to it. But thatís human. I reserve the right to be dumb.
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Promises for a still unknown Smashing Pumpkins-reunion
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As far as not wanting to live in the past, how does that weigh on your mind when James Iha is involved with this record and there seems to be more talk than ever about a Smashing Pumpkins reunion?
It doesnít. Itís like, the door is open, and hopefully there will be some energy by which we, in some combination, can coalesce. But Iíve learned not to repeat my mistakes, which is, ďIt has to be this way, in this time frame.Ē Iím applying no pressure. Iíve opened the door to it because of personal relationships and the peace thatís been demonstrated within, and hopefully there will be an opportunity there. If there is, great, if there isnít, Iím happy to have the friendships. I donít feel any burning need to prove a point.
But I will say to the world, be careful what you wish for, because if we do come back in any format, weíre going to punch peopleís heads in. It wonít be the shy, retiree ďroll around with our walkersĒ spree. Weíll go right back to being the band that we areónot even were, the band that we are. People, rightly so, will often attach a lot of the whole groupís polemic mission to me. Fine, I was out front, I was writing the songs. But trust me, the other three were just as big of bastards. We enjoy taking on the New York snobs. We love punching people right in the guts where the hypocrisy grows.


 
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:50 PM   #2
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I can see the headline "Billy Corgan calls original Smashing Pumpkins members bastards"

 
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:57 PM   #3
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"It’s probably the most positive response I’ve gotten in twenty years on a record"

didn't he say very similar things about MtaE?

"Do you read the reviews?

No, I don’t read anything"

So ummm where does the "positive response" come from? Your little cohort?

 
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:00 PM   #4
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Free synthesizer show by a skillful man. How noble.


 
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:01 PM   #5
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"are there are contemporary artists that you admire?

I don’t listen to anybody."

yup

 
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:20 PM   #6
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He's totally missing out on Alcest.

 
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:27 PM   #7
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Can you pinpoint when you re that way, just completely disconnected?

Spin magazine, 1998. It started Spin magazine, 1998.



LOL

 
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:27 PM   #8
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But I will say to the world, be careful what you wish for, because if we do come back in any format, we’re going to punch people’s heads in.
I actually laughed out loud

 
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:41 PM   #9
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That was an awesome interview. Best thing since Machina II.

 
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:41 PM   #10
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I like how Billy talks about how he doesn't like to be antagonistic anymore, but then the interviewer is kind of a dick to him so he ends up being a smartass anyway. But unlike in the past, he seems less angry when he's doing it. More like he's just amusing himself. I think he really got under that interviewer's skin which is funny.

 
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:45 PM   #11
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He also sounds batshit insane which is funnier

 
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:48 PM   #12
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He also sounds batshit insane which is funnier
Tru

 
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:52 PM   #13
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I like how Billy talks about how he doesn't like to be antagonistic anymore, but then the interviewer is kind of a dick to him so he ends up being a smartass anyway. But unlike in the past, he seems less angry when he's doing it. More like he's just amusing himself. I think he really got under that interviewer's skin which is funny.
I always thought this about his smartassness in the 90s... that he was for the most part just having a laugh at everyone and that he got misinterpreted a lot for non-serious shit he said in interviews.

but then he learned the internet and we found out he really is just a big assface

 
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:56 PM   #14
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He's all over the place. He sounds like a mess.

 
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:54 PM   #15
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"But I’ve learned not to repeat my mistakes, which is, 'It has to be this way, in this time frame'"

"...we’re going to punch people’s heads in"

No pressure for D'arcy huh.

 
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:08 PM   #16
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Lol new york snobs.

that must have been directed at spin and the interviewer.

 
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Old 10-13-2017, 01:23 AM   #17
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well also the Pumpkins got no love in New York early on. they turned their noses up at them immediately

 
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Old 10-13-2017, 01:27 AM   #18
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I can see the headline "Billy Corgan calls original Smashing Pumpkins members bastards"
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Old 10-13-2017, 06:49 AM   #19
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from jimmy c's twitter


 
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Old 10-13-2017, 07:49 AM   #20
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"To me, life is about being in the present. That’s the greatest lesson I’ve learned, is just, be in the present."

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"I’ve been wrong about every record I’ve made since Mellon Collie. I mean, Adore was very artistic but had commercial potential. The record company abandoned it after six weeks. It got shitty reviews. It was treated like a fucking cancer on my musical life. Twenty years later, everywhere I go, people want to talk about that fucking record. I was “wrong” then, “right” now, but it didn’t suit me a lot of good to be right then."

 
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I’ve been wrong about every record I’ve made since Mellon Collie.
did he actually say this??!!

holy shit

 
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Old 10-13-2017, 08:49 AM   #22
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This interview is fucking gold. Corgan sounds like a sane, self-aware person in it. I think he's being disingenuous regards the Civil War question and song titles. But it was candid enough.

Also lol the interviewer is Ian Cohen, who Falco of Future of the Left went fuckign mental at and called a cunt for giving their album a bad review on pitchfork. I imagine Billy hated him.

Definitely worth reading if you haven't. Cohen gets destroyed: http://futureoftheleftv2now.blogspot...-name.html?m=1

He's wrong about one thing, people don't want to talk about Adore, they wanna talk anout where dat Machina reissue!?

 
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Old 10-13-2017, 01:10 PM   #23
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I always thought this about his smartassness in the 90s... that he was for the most part just having a laugh at everyone and that he got misinterpreted a lot for non-serious shit he said in interviews.

but then he learned the internet and we found out he really is just a big assface
I can think of no other celebrity who has been worse suited for the internet than Billy.

 
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"Itís probably the most positive response Iíve gotten in twenty years on a record"
I read this line and thought "Nah, it can't have been that long" and then I realised it has been that long........

Fuck... I'm old.

 
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Fuck... I'm old.
nah, he's old.

 
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