Aeronaut is about the end of the Pumpkins

[Ram27]

I went down the middle, the world survives

I ended the band to try to compromise, but life still goes on without it

One little mind to ease off one silver drum that beats

It's just me left, trying to replace an amazing drummer

This mountain was torn from us

Our success and reputation (which we built over the years [see second chorus, 'This mountain was born from us']) was destroyed

If I'm leaving you without return a snare
Can a boy float through time and space
You can call it home if you wish or if it's fair

If I'm exploring genres and doing weird shit, you can like it if you want


The 'snare' thing, I imagine must be a pun about a snare drum and a snag. 'If I'm leaving rock music without returning' and 'I'm leaving you guys, but I fucked up'

Lovers won't you mourn with me

Fans, won't you accept the band is over

[Mals Marola]

i liked it better when he did it in '99 and called it "This Time"

[Brisk]

Originally Posted by Mals Marola

i liked it better when he did it in '99 and called it "This Time"

Hhaha one of the best songs ever. Every fucking pico second is epic.

[teh b0lly!!1]

Originally Posted by Mals Marola

i liked it better when he did it in '99 and called it "This Time"

man...
that song

[amoergosum]

Originally Posted by teh b0lly!!1

man...
that song

[Brisk]

Look you see in This Time he has been doing the Vibration ever since V2 as his voice is weak now and he can't hold notes. Not sure why everyone is so surprised hearing it off a studio track.

[vixnix]

Originally Posted by teh b0lly!!1

man...
that song

If we do meet up in Shanghai we should totally do a YouTube cover. Not even as a joke. As genuine fans. How anti-punk would that be. How many guitars do you have?

[vixnix]

We could play a set of covers at Starbucks and my husband could bring his acoustic bass lolololol

playing terrible pumpkins covers as a 37 year old mum of 2 in a Shanghai Starbucks with a guy I met on the internet and my husband on acoustic bass sounds exactly like the kind of low budget documentary I find compelling at 1am on local tv

it's David Brent level epic

[Mals Marola]

if this is true though it's incredibly sad he's had to make this type of song more than once, and over 15 years apart at that

i don't mean sad in a condescending way, i mean it actually makes my heart sink

[Shadaloo]

Originally Posted by Mals Marola

if this is true though it's incredibly sad he's had to make this type of song more than once, and over 15 years apart at that

i don't mean sad in a condescending way, i mean it actually makes my heart sink

It was way more than once. He was predicting the end by the Adore-era:

Soot and Stars:

the words flow
decisions made
idea's mine
but the inspiration not
dreams of hangers-on
dreams of getting well
spells of esmeralda
amarose fortold

(...)

like a dog that's down
in a corner just aside
waiting to be called
waiting to be yours
ghosts of a machine
without purpose or will

i'll often speak of you
but the you was always me
'cause when i speak of me
it's me i ask of you
so let there be no truth
just trickery in rhymes
time the only thing
waiting still is death

IMO James and D'Arcy are the 'hangers-on' he mentions. The whole song was about remembering when he enjoyed doing what he was doing, and recognizing that the band was essentially done, or coming to an end.

Blissed and Gone, too:

i had no voice
i had no drive
i had no choice
i've done my time
i had myself
had my band
i had my love
had no hand in watching it all fall apart

[Slurpee]

Originally Posted by Shadaloo

Blissed and Gone, too:

i had no voice
i had no drive
i had no choice
i've done my time
i had myself
had my band
i had my love
had no hand in watching it all fall apart

Only genuinely moving lyrics he wrote that were directly about this topic, IMO.

[Slurpee]

I think the lyrics of the song describe more of Billy's decisions besides just ending the Pumpkins... it's about his decision to be who he wants to be.

[enthusaroo]

I think the lyrics are about things

[Jelly Blossom]

Originally Posted by Ram27

I ended the band to try to compromise, but life still goes on without it



It's just me left, trying to replace an amazing drummer



Our success and reputation (which we built over the years [see second chorus, 'This mountain was born from us']) was destroyed



If I'm exploring genres and doing weird shit, you can like it if you want


The 'snare' thing, I imagine must be a pun about a snare drum and a snag. 'If I'm leaving rock music without returning' and 'I'm leaving you guys, but I fucked up'



Fans, won't you accept the band is over

I'm always fascinated at how hard some people try to find meaning in Billy's lyrics.

You do realize his lyrics are gibberish right? Any meaning you might find in any of his songs strictly comes from you imposing your own interpretation into the lyrics, and not from any lyrical craftsmanship from Billy.

[Mals Marola]

the wording of "i'm leaving you without return a snare" makes it sound like he's talking about some snare-drum insurance policy

[amoergosum]

"...withou ret- uuuuuuurn..."

[wHATcOLOR]

i've just got to say that this part is FUCKING HILARIOUS

"Lovers won't you mourn with me =
Fans, won't you accept the band is over"


what?? lovers? c'mon brother. now you're talking crazy

[Ol' Couch Ass]

Yeah it's pretty presumptuous for Billy to lyrically presume that all fans former/current would hump him and thus be "a lover." I mean, a friendly HJ perhaps- dude did write Siamese Dream after all. But geez, that doesn't mean he can refer to me as a lover.

Further, Billy might be saying 'morn. Maybe he's making an invitation to wake up a bit early, perhaps for breakfast. And, maybe, I'm taking the word lovers the wrong way. Maybe he's just saying any lovers in general- like anyone who's currently screwing someone on the regular. Maybe by saying "Lovers won't you 'morn with me..." he's just saying "if you're banging someone, wake up early and join me at IHOP." I mean, I don't know. Lyric interpretation can be sort of subjective.

[Ol' Couch Ass]

del

[run2pee]

Hmmmmm I dunno i think if there's honesty in this lyric, it's that there's something amiss in our cosmos. Yet still, we must love.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

this thread is about the end of ram17.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

lover, lover

[Zerospaced]

If you're still feeling down, then maybe you need me around.

[panda show]

can you stop making these threads

[run2pee]

Originally Posted by Ram27

I ended the band to try to compromise, but life still goes on without it



It's just me left, trying to replace an amazing drummer



Our success and reputation (which we built over the years [see second chorus, 'This mountain was born from us']) was destroyed



If I'm exploring genres and doing weird shit, you can like it if you want


The 'snare' thing, I imagine must be a pun about a snare drum and a snag. 'If I'm leaving rock music without returning' and 'I'm leaving you guys, but I fucked up'



Fans, won't you accept the band is over

Wrong

The mountain = Auggie Joop

This is a concept album about airplane mode birthed a mountain out her vaj and bill's all like wonder of life but also dang don't you love me too no more aren't i your little boy still, so she has to be both their dads for them

[slunken]

My first thought was the mountain referred to his past superstardom

[DemonUnicorns]

When you need to feel big and strong, reach for Juggernog tonight!

[pumpkins]

Are you crazy? Look at the album cover. It's just a beautiful song for his kid and his girlfriend. "I went down the middle, the world survives": its a literary reference to the beginning of The Divine Comedy, from Dante. It's a very personal song, about his private, real life. It's a song about love, personified in his son. The mountain is his son. It has nothing to do with bands or his career.

[slunken]

Originally Posted by pumpkins

album cover. It's just a beautiful song

WPC is the new Raffi

[Kahlo]

This song is about...

sorry I haven't managed to get to the end of it yet. Will let you know if that ever happens.