anyone hear about that new book about SUVs?

[Samsa]

i heard them interview this guy, keith bradsher, on npr awhile back. he wrote a book called High and Mighty: SUVs--The World's Most Dangerous Vehicles and How They Got That Way he basically went around talking to people who actually work for auto companies, and apparently some company or other does research on their consumers etc etc etc, and they basically try to market their suvs according to uhh the character results of these surveys, i don't get it but here's a quote that's sort of funny


"Who has been buying SUVs since automakers turned them into family vehicles? They tend to be people who are insecure and vain. They are frequently nervous about their marriages and uncomfortable about parenthood. They often lack confidence in their driving skills. Above all, they are apt to be self-centered and self-absorbed, with little interest in the neighbors or communities."


uhh here's a link to more info about the book. i could go into detail but it was awhile ago and i forget what he said

i just think it's so uncanny like...how do these researchers now all this stuff? like is it a subtle test or what? and how do they do these marketing surveys? i'd buy the book just for that

oops forgot the link lol

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books

[Best Looking Boy]

That's pretty damn funny.

[Junebug]

Originally posted by Samsa

"Who has been buying SUVs since automakers turned them into family vehicles? They tend to be people who are insecure and vain. They are frequently nervous about their marriages and uncomfortable about parenthood. They often lack confidence in their driving skills. Above all, they are apt to be self-centered and self-absorbed, with little interest in the neighbors or communities."

Harsh. That sounds exactly like the lady i baby-sat/raised her kids for. Not to be stereotyping or anything :erm. She got a motorcycle for her birthday too. I'd like to read that book...

[My lgloo]

Originally posted by Junebug
Harsh.

I think it's an apt description of SUV drivers.

An ex-prime minister in Australia suggested a Tax on SUVs
and described them as a "pox on our roads". Needless to
say, SUV owners threw a hissy fit.

I reckon they'll become incredibly unhip in a few years. After all,
it's only really aging baby-boomers and upper-class women who
really support the market for SUVs to and great length.

[Samsa]

when i took cello lessons i had to use the suzuki school of learning or something. it was a different suzuki i assume yeah. i forget the name of this mr suzuki off the top of my head though oh well

heh.

[Ketchup]

if you drive an SUV... you support terrorism!

[surrealist]

Then I support terrorism.

Anywho... this debate is getting old and worn. If you're going to single out SUVs on the environment, single out luxary cars and sport cars that have huge displacement. It's all about choice. Later on this year I might pick up a turbo sports car. And if I do so, the first mod I'm doing is to cut the cats and get a boost controller. Not because I hate the environment.... I'm very fond of the sky, trees, grassy plains, ants, and large bodies of water. But until companies start to make other alternatives as good as fossil fuel, I have no plans on moving on. And btw, unless you're driving an electric or hybrid you really have no room to speak.

-This is me, being self centered.

[hereisnowhy]

Originally posted by Delta
"If you drive an SUV you don't give a shit about this world--it's that simple" -David Suzuki

Um.. he didn't actually say that did he? He's usually a little more eloquent.

[Samsa]

well the book isn't just about the gas-guzzling. it's also about uhh. the fact that if you get into a crash with an suv it is probable that its front bumper will crash through your windshield and pulverize your head

[surrealist]

Originally posted by Samsa
well the book isn't just about the gas-guzzling. it's also about uhh. the fact that if you get into a crash with an suv it is probable that its front bumper will crash through your windshield and pulverize your head

Hmm, I've never heard that one. I do know SUVs are notorious for climbing other cars in a crash, another reason people look down on them.

[My lgloo]

Originally posted by surrealist
It's all about choice.

That's the problem.

People shouldn't have a choice between fucking the planet over
and not fucking the planet over. The situation is much much bigger
than your "right to choose"

Why aren't you being responsible with your right to choose?

I think individuality stretches too far on matters like these, because
it's a matter that trancends your individual rights. It's really an
issue for the human race as a collective social organism than it
is your right to buy whatever the fuck you want because you're
a self centred little prick.

asshole.

[Ketchup]

it's not our fucking fault that they don't put out more "environment-friendly" vehicles out. why doesn't our government do something? they're too concerned about bombing the shit outta everyone.

[surrealist]

Originally posted by My lgloo


That's the problem.

People shouldn't have a choice between fucking the planet over
and not fucking the planet over. The choice is much much bigger
than your "right to choose"

Why aren't you being responsible with your right to choose?

I think individuality stretches too far on matters like these, because
it's a matter that trancends your individual rights. It's really an
issue for the human race as a collective social organism than it
is your right to buy whatever the fuck you want because you're
a self centred little prick.

asshole.

If this is your way of thinking, then please by all means, don't buy a car, ever. And if you do, electric hybrid only. It is the most responsible desicion when it comes to purchasing a car. And if you can't afford one (although very affordable) walk. When it comes to pollution, the oil wells are sure to run empty before we start dying. So get over yourself.

[My lgloo]

Originally posted by surrealist
If this is your way of thinking, then please by all means, don't buy a car, ever. And if you do, electric hybrid only. It is the most responsible desicion when it comes to purchasing a car. And if you can't afford one (although very affordable) walk.

That's funny, because that's EXACTLY what I do.
I'm 22, don't own a car and use public transport, my bike, and my feet.
I only borrow a vehicle for journies that are unreachable by other means.

because I give a shit. i've put the planet before myself. funny that.

{edit} not that I expect everyone to do that. i just expect people
to not drive SUVs _-

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Last edited by My lgloo : 01-18-2003 at 01:00 AM.

[surrealist]

Originally posted by My lgloo


That's funny, because that's EXACTLY what I do.
I'm 22, don't own a car and use public transport, my bike, and my feet.
I only borrow a vehicle for journies that are unreachable by other means.

because I give a shit. i've put the planet before myself. funny that.

Good for you. Too bad your choice won't even matter.

[Best Looking Boy]

Originally posted by Ketchup
it's not our fucking fault that they don't put out more "environment-friendly" vehicles out. why doesn't our government do something? they're too concerned about bombing the shit outta everyone.

It doesn't mean you have to buy an SUV, idiot. I love how incredibly stupid people use extremes to justify things. I hate the way you dress as well.

[My lgloo]

Originally posted by surrealist
Too bad your choice won't even matter.

What does that mean? What DOES that mean?

[Ketchup]

Originally posted by Best Looking Boy
It doesn't mean you have to buy an SUV, idiot. I love how incredibly stupid people use extremes to justify things. I hate the way you dress as well.

i didn't say i HAD to buy one, i'm just saying it's not all our fucking fault. besides, other cars/vehicles do damage too. not just SUV's, ignorant fucks. how do you dress? i probably hate the way you dress too. dumbass

[Ketchup]

and i like not dying in the winter because i have 4-wheel drive, bitch. it can save lives.

[My lgloo]

Originally posted by Ketchup
other cars/vehicles do damage too. not just SUV's, ignorant fucks. [/color]

The point is, SUVs spew out excessive emissions for what is, in essence a vanity car.
At least the majority of other vehicles do something useful.

[Ketchup]

yep, let's just ban semis too...and buses... and everything that spits out excess shit.

[Ketchup]

but who the fuck cares?! the world is going to shit anyway. i'm just going to sit back and watch everything crumble.

[My lgloo]

Originally posted by Ketchup
yep, let's just ban semis too...and buses... and everything that spits out excess shit.

Originally posted by My lgloo
At least the majority of other vehicles do something useful.

I don't think people's vanity is worth fucking up the planet for.

[Ketchup]

sure it is... besides, if we all start walking and taking public transportation... there will have to be a lot more of the bigger vehicles around to take the people where they wanna go. i agree they should make more electric cars and shit, but i don't see what the point is on bashing people who drive SUV's... it's not like it's doing SO MUCH MORE damage than everything else. like i said, the world is going to shit sooner or later.

[My lgloo]

Originally posted by Ketchup
like i said, the world is going to shit sooner or later.

only if you let it.

[Ketchup]

yep, cuz i'm gonna work my hardest so I ALONE can save the world. get a fuckn job.

[Samsa]

Originally posted by Ketchup
sure it is... besides, if we all start walking and taking public transportation... there will have to be a lot more of the bigger vehicles around to take the people where they wanna go. i agree they should make more electric cars and shit, but i don't see what the point is on bashing people who drive SUV's... it's not like it's doing SO MUCH MORE damage than everything else. like i said, the world is going to shit sooner or later.

this post wasn't about gasoline-guzzling. maybe that was part of it but the book makes quite a few arguments about why suvs are the devil. i don't knwo what they are because i haven't read the book but maybe you should.

[Ketchup]

Originally posted by Samsa


this post wasn't about gasoline-guzzling. maybe that was part of it but the book makes quite a few arguments about why suvs are the devil. i don't knwo what they are because i haven't read the book but maybe you should.

why me?

[Samsa]

i don't fucking know, why not? jesus christ

[Ketchup]

lol.