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Old 01-16-2017, 01:43 AM   #1
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Default "Sex, Drums, Rock n' Roll" by Kenny Aronoff

So, ol' Kenny has a book out here: http://amzn.to/2iNIugH

Good read (on a great blog) here: http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/2017/01...-aronoff-book/

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But it comes to an end with Mellencamp. Who has the band on salary, he said he was gonna take three years off but really it was a matter of weeks, artists get inspired and have to create, but the band members didn’t share in the recording royalties or the songwriting royalties, they did not get rich.

But Kenny did. As Mellencamp says in the book, he’s the only one whoever worked for him who went on his own and survived.

A lot of it is personality, Billy Corgan marvels that D’arcy felt comfortable around Kenny, but not him. You’ve got to get along.

 
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Old 01-16-2017, 01:43 AM   #2
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Also, this:


 
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Old 01-16-2017, 05:07 PM   #3
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Anyone have that gif with the lightning bolts

 
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Old 01-16-2017, 06:50 PM   #4
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He's next best drummer bill's worked with after Jimmy

 
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Captain obvious

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Old 01-16-2017, 07:02 PM   #6
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wow can't wait to read that dirty-secret-filled tell-all bio

 
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Old 01-16-2017, 07:03 PM   #7
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"i got hired to do this gig. it was awesome. we all got along.

flash forward 5 years and i get hired to do another gig. we all got along. it was awesome."

 
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He's next best drummer bill's worked with after Jimmy
One of rivals would be their best drum machine lol

 
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Old 01-16-2017, 07:10 PM   #9
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Did he meet Paz? Write about her?

 
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Old 01-16-2017, 07:57 PM   #10
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Always really liked that Adore tour they did with Kenny. He was obviously having a blast. Hella energy.

 
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Old 01-16-2017, 10:23 PM   #11
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I actually read some of this at a bookstore the other day. Here what I recall. Bear in mind this will all be paraphrased.

-Kenny was actually a fan of the band since the mid-1990s. His son loved Smashing Pumpkins, and Kenny really liked Jimmy's playing on the records. When the band kicked Jimmy out in 1996, Kenny sent his 40 page resume to the band's management to offer his services. He never heard anything back and assumed the band did not care.

-Two years later, he got a call from the band's management at the time. They wanted Kenny to audition, and specifically remembered Kenny's 40 page resume. Apparently, it took hours to come through and essentially shut down business operations at the management's office that day since no one could use the fax machine. Kenny, who is known for making detailed musical charts of songs, went about learning EVERY Smashing Pumpkins song in a matter of weeks.

-A few days before the audition, the manager called Kenny again and told Kenny that Billy specifically asked Kenny not to try and emulate Chamberlin. When Kenny asked what vibe the band was going for, he was told "think Grateful Dead or Pink Floyd."

-When Kenny arrived at the rehearsal space, James was the only band member to introduce himself. D'arcy was on a phone in the hall and Billy was still at the studio finishing the mixing process on Adore. Kenny felt like he bombed the audition because there was no real interaction. Specifically, he said Billy was rocking out by himself, while James and D'arcy stared off into space. He later realized this was just the way the band liked to perform. He got the gig a few days later.

-Kenny tells the same story Billy did in the Adore liner notes, about how - at the beginning of the tour - Kenny and the percussionists all played in different time. Kenny finally complained to the sound guy, who gave them better monitors. Billy apparently demanded changes be made to arrangements and dynamics hours before the show. Kenny specifically talks about Corgan's photographic memory and how Corgan would say things like, "Hey Kenny, remember that time you played that crazy fill on the second verse of "Pug? Play that again tonight." Billy would usually go over these changes with James and D'arcy while it fell upon Kenny to communicate them to the expanded band (Garson and the percussionists).

-Kenny says Corgan was, for the most part, a gentleman, but recalls a few lapses. At one point, during one of the songs off Adore, Corgan turned around and motioned for Kenny to play something differently on drums. Corgan had not told Kenny to make any changes that day, so Kenny did his best to guess what Corgan wanted. Apparently he guessed incorrectly, and Corgan pouted for the next few songs. Another time, the band decided to extend "1979," but Kenny started wrapping up the song. He jumped back in perfectly, but Corgan stepped up to the mic and yelled "Aronoff, you're fired!" This really surprised Kenny, and he mentioned that not even Mellencamp, a notorious control freak, ever did anything like that on stage. Kenny got really pissed over the night, and finally confronted Billy about it the next day. Billy said something like "it's just Corgan humor; nothing personal." He said he immediately "got this," and never took any of Billy's little rants personally again.

-At the show in Russia, Kenny decided it would be funny to play up the "rock band image" and trash his drum set, even though Kenny loved equipment and never trashed it. At the end of the show, Kenny threw his drum kit to the stage. James and Billy, realizing what Kenny was doing, kicked all the pieces across the stage and smashed them. It turned out, however, that the kit belonged to a high ranking Russian government official, who lent them the kit (when they could not get a lot of their normal equipment through customs) on the condition that Kenny not trash it. When the band was destroying the set, the Russian dude looked at the road manager and made an "I'm gonna slit your throat" symbol. They eventually had to pay for the kit at a ridiculous price.

-Billy gets a few comments throughout the chapter. He mentioned, as Lefsetz does, that D'arcy loved Kenny and had a closer relationship with Kenny during his few months in the band than Billy did at the time. Apparently, she even campaigned to have him join full time before they decided to re-hire Jimmy. Billy also mentions that he convinced Kenny to shave his head, and poked fun at him for rocking the George Costanza look at the beginning of the tour.

-Kenny really loved playing with the band, and was happy when Corgan called him to play on a song for Toni Iommi's solo album, but never heard from Billy again after that. They did not talk until they ran into each other at NAMM in 2012.

 
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Old 01-16-2017, 10:38 PM   #12
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woah thanks for that

 
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Old 01-16-2017, 11:06 PM   #13
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There's a plethora of kennys in the above bitch.

 
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Old 01-17-2017, 12:05 AM   #14
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Billy also mentions that he convinced Kenny to shave his head
Aha! I knew it!

http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=183462

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Old 01-17-2017, 12:12 AM   #15
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I remember that thread

I would have imbedded a picture from 'Coneheads' if I could

 
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Old 01-17-2017, 12:24 AM   #16
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Some of my finest work that thread


 
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lol fuzzy you got this one i'll admit it

 
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Old 01-17-2017, 02:00 AM   #18
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Another time, the band decided to extend "1979," but Kenny started wrapping up the song. He jumped back in perfectly, but Corgan stepped up to the mic and yelled "Aronoff, you're fired!" This really surprised Kenny, and he mentioned that not even Mellencamp, a notorious control freak, ever did anything like that on stage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEkw7jJR2Wg&t=1h15m9s

 
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Old 01-17-2017, 04:35 PM   #19
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Fuzzy you are a latter day prophet.

Praise Him!

 
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Old 01-17-2017, 04:54 PM   #20
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That was Jimmy getting "fired"! He said it to Kenny in Stockholm or Copenhagen...

 
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you're aware that Ram27 only listens to shows that feature Jimmy on drums

 
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Old 01-17-2017, 05:13 PM   #22
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but his point was to show how he used the 'joke' again a year later

 
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lol fuzzy you got this one i'll admit it
I would gloat and all but I suppose even a broken-clocks right twice a day

 
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Old 01-17-2017, 07:57 PM   #24
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<3 kinny

 
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I would gloat and all but I suppose even a broken-clocks right twice a day
That's fuzzy in modesty mode
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even if the original members reuniting doesn't save the music, at least we'll have a bassist who actually speaks on stage and james's spurts of screaming

 
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I actually read some of this at a bookstore the other day. Here what I recall. Bear in mind this will all be paraphrased.

-Kenny was actually a fan of the band since the mid-1990s. His son loved Smashing Pumpkins, and Kenny really liked Jimmy's playing on the records. When the band kicked Jimmy out in 1996, Kenny sent his 40 page resume to the band's management to offer his services. He never heard anything back and assumed the band did not care.

-Two years later, he got a call from the band's management at the time. They wanted Kenny to audition, and specifically remembered Kenny's 40 page resume. Apparently, it took hours to come through and essentially shut down business operations at the management's office that day since no one could use the fax machine. Kenny, who is known for making detailed musical charts of songs, went about learning EVERY Smashing Pumpkins song in a matter of weeks.

-A few days before the audition, the manager called Kenny again and told Kenny that Billy specifically asked Kenny not to try and emulate Chamberlin. When Kenny asked what vibe the band was going for, he was told "think Grateful Dead or Pink Floyd."

-When Kenny arrived at the rehearsal space, James was the only band member to introduce himself. D'arcy was on a phone in the hall and Billy was still at the studio finishing the mixing process on Adore. Kenny felt like he bombed the audition because there was no real interaction. Specifically, he said Billy was rocking out by himself, while James and D'arcy stared off into space. He later realized this was just the way the band liked to perform. He got the gig a few days later.

-Kenny tells the same story Billy did in the Adore liner notes, about how - at the beginning of the tour - Kenny and the percussionists all played in different time. Kenny finally complained to the sound guy, who gave them better monitors. Billy apparently demanded changes be made to arrangements and dynamics hours before the show. Kenny specifically talks about Corgan's photographic memory and how Corgan would say things like, "Hey Kenny, remember that time you played that crazy fill on the second verse of "Pug? Play that again tonight." Billy would usually go over these changes with James and D'arcy while it fell upon Kenny to communicate them to the expanded band (Garson and the percussionists).

-Kenny says Corgan was, for the most part, a gentleman, but recalls a few lapses. At one point, during one of the songs off Adore, Corgan turned around and motioned for Kenny to play something differently on drums. Corgan had not told Kenny to make any changes that day, so Kenny did his best to guess what Corgan wanted. Apparently he guessed incorrectly, and Corgan pouted for the next few songs. Another time, the band decided to extend "1979," but Kenny started wrapping up the song. He jumped back in perfectly, but Corgan stepped up to the mic and yelled "Aronoff, you're fired!" This really surprised Kenny, and he mentioned that not even Mellencamp, a notorious control freak, ever did anything like that on stage. Kenny got really pissed over the night, and finally confronted Billy about it the next day. Billy said something like "it's just Corgan humor; nothing personal." He said he immediately "got this," and never took any of Billy's little rants personally again.

-At the show in Russia, Kenny decided it would be funny to play up the "rock band image" and trash his drum set, even though Kenny loved equipment and never trashed it. At the end of the show, Kenny threw his drum kit to the stage. James and Billy, realizing what Kenny was doing, kicked all the pieces across the stage and smashed them. It turned out, however, that the kit belonged to a high ranking Russian government official, who lent them the kit (when they could not get a lot of their normal equipment through customs) on the condition that Kenny not trash it. When the band was destroying the set, the Russian dude looked at the road manager and made an "I'm gonna slit your throat" symbol. They eventually had to pay for the kit at a ridiculous price.

-Billy gets a few comments throughout the chapter. He mentioned, as Lefsetz does, that D'arcy loved Kenny and had a closer relationship with Kenny during his few months in the band than Billy did at the time. Apparently, she even campaigned to have him join full time before they decided to re-hire Jimmy. Billy also mentions that he convinced Kenny to shave his head, and poked fun at him for rocking the George Costanza look at the beginning of the tour.

-Kenny really loved playing with the band, and was happy when Corgan called him to play on a song for Toni Iommi's solo album, but never heard from Billy again after that. They did not talk until they ran into each other at NAMM in 2012.
Solid post sir

 
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Any dirt in this book about Michelle Branch?

 
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Michelle Obama: would u (fuzzy) hit it

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She doesn't really get me fired up, no.

 
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