List of people b0lly has not alienated

[imploding b0lly]

So it seems that everyone he has worked with has had a very public falling out with old Bill: Sharon Osbourne, all of the original Pumpkins, all of Zwan, etc.

So I thought it would be fun to come up with a list of people who Corgan has apparently maintained friendly professional ties with:

Flood
Butch Vig
Linda Strawberry
Ginger Pooley
Matt Walker
Jonathan Melvoin (lol!)
Melissa auf der Maur
Kenny Aronoff
Vasily Kavinoff
Dennis and Jimmy Flemion
Yelena Yemchuk
Lisa Harrington
Kevin Dippold
Marilyn Manson
Mike Garson
Mike Byrne
Jeff Schroeder
Nicole Fiorentino

That's actually all I can think of. Is Billy crazy??

[meangreensp]

Originally Posted by imploding b0lly

So it seems that everyone he has worked with has had a very public falling out with old Bill: Sharon Osbourne, all of the original Pumpkins, all of Zwan, etc.

So I thought it would be fun to come up with a list of people who Corgan has apparently maintained friendly professional ties with:

Flood
Butch Vig
Linda Strawberry
Ginger Pooley
Matt Walker
Jonathan Melvoin (lol!)
Melissa auf der Maur

That's actually all I can think of. Is Billy crazy??

Wow, putting Melvoin on there with the LOL. Think you're funny? Dumbshit.

[Butt Pope]

Breakfast

[Grox]

pretty sure he alienated madm

[LalaPumpkinhead]

Originally Posted by imploding b0lly

So it seems that everyone he has worked with has had a very public falling out with old Bill: Sharon Osbourne, all of the original Pumpkins, all of Zwan, etc.

So I thought it would be fun to come up with a list of people who Corgan has apparently maintained friendly professional ties with:

Flood
Butch Vig
Linda Strawberry
Ginger Pooley
Matt Walker
Jonathan Melvoin (lol!)
Melissa auf der Maur

That's actually all I can think of. Is Billy crazy??

add uncle Lala and Bjorn to the list

[Shallowed]

Jonathan Monte

[ghost-mutt]

b0lly cr0gan

[MyOneAndOnly]

list is missing current band members

also, Lisa Harriton and Kevin Dippold

[themadcaplaughs]

Jimmy Flemion.

[Shallowed]

Should Whatserface Veronica still be on the list?

[Xteenmachine]

Yelena Yemchuk

[T&T]

Flood - PAID CASH MONEY TO BE AROUND BILLY TO START OFF WITH
Butch Vig - PAID CASH MONEY TO BE AROUND BILLY TO START OFF WITH
Linda Strawberry - she's a fcuking idiot, but she counts
Ginger Pooley - she got out of there ASAP.
Matt Walker - he's expressed resentment for the ambiguity of band member status but acted very graciously. I guess he doesn't care
Melissa auf der Maur - she got out of there asap too


The ability to piss off a fellow musician is typical when the jerk knows the other instrument. For billy to make calls on bass and guitar parts is easy... not as easy for drums and keys. I know when i've played synth in bands, bandleaders mostly just smile and nod, otoh playing guitars always lends to other people giving you their opinion on how they want you to play a part... it's pretty annoying.
I think that factor easily plays into people who billy doesn't have a good relationship with anymore.

[Rider]

Originally Posted by imploding b0lly

So it seems that everyone he has worked with has had a very public falling out with old Bill: Sharon Osbourne, all of the original Pumpkins, all of Zwan, etc.

So I thought it would be fun to come up with a list of people who Corgan has apparently maintained friendly professional ties with:

Flood
Butch Vig
Linda Strawberry
Ginger Pooley
Matt Walker
Jonathan Melvoin (lol!)
Melissa auf der Maur

That's actually all I can think of. Is Billy crazy??

I don't think Melissa is fond of him. I think the fact that none of these people have worked with him in long time is more telling then any public feud.

The only time Vig comes out of the woodwork seems to be to pat himself on the back for being a super genius. How would we even know how Flood feels?

[Rumpkin]

my mom

[Order 66]

i dunno if producers count. they have to be there. linda doesnt seem to be in contact with him anymore? madm is more a case of going different directions

i'm waiting to see how the current lineup deals with his next meltdown

[slunken]

Originally Posted by T&T

For billy to make calls on bass and guitar parts is easy... not as easy for drums and keys.

QFT - billy doesn't know shit about drums or keys and therefore wasn't quite able to control it. also why these elements have always shined during classic SP years.

[TheAeroplane]

the fans

[emotionalfriend]

Originally Posted by TheAeroplane

the fans

You misread. It's supposed to be people he HAS NOT alienated.

[SPLATTER]

Is he still on good terms with these guys?

vasily kafanov
manson
kenny arnoff

They never come up anymore, so i guess that's a good thing.

[New Art Rioter]

Vasily yes, they had a little Twitter conversation a while back

I wonder about Mike Garson, he stuck around for a fair while

[pale_princess]

Originally Posted by SPLATTER

Is he still on good terms with these guys?
manson

manson's gf is iha's woman's twin sister. so doubtful.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally Posted by SPLATTER

Is he still on good terms with these guys?

kenny arnoff

definitely not.

[pale_princess]

garson plays on iha's new album. i imagine bill burnt that bridge a long time ago too.

[themadcaplaughs]

I don't think Melissa is fond of him. I think the fact that none of these people have worked with him in long time is more telling then any public feud.

The only time Vig comes out of the woodwork seems to be to pat himself on the back for being a super genius. How would we even know how Flood feels?

Butch claimed he talked to Corgan back in 2010 and he was "in fine form." Also, in those interviews with Flood on the message board about his production I think he mentioned he still has somewhat friendly contact with Billy.

Melissa, on the other hand, seems to have made some pretty pissy comments about Billy after shows. So while I doubt they are necessarily on bad terms, it sounds like she is a little resentful not being asked back and is willing to acknowledge Corgan has surrounded himself with lunatics and yes-men.

Billy mentioned during some interview (I think it was that luncheon one around the time Oceania came out) that he still talks to Kenny regularly, and told him about Oceania.

[slunken]

Originally Posted by themadcaplaughs

Melissa, on the other hand, seems to have made some pretty pissy comments about Billy after shows. .

like what

[themadcaplaughs]

Someone on the o-board attended one of her solo shows and met her afterwards. Apparently she said she does not talk to Billy much anymore because he is with his "Jesus friends" now...or something to that effect.

[starlightvideoproductions]

Can we add Jesus to the list?

[IWishIWasBlank]

Billy:Jesus? Are you listening?
Jesus: Fuck no. Quit being such a dick to everyone. When the fuck did *I* ever do that? Some true follower you turned out to be.

[Kahlo]

Originally Posted by themadcaplaughs

Someone on the o-board attended one of her solo shows and met her afterwards. Apparently she said she does not talk to Billy much anymore because he is with his "Jesus friends" now...or something to that effect.

this was me - she thought that he had lost his mind with the Jesus nonsense. This was 5 odd years ago. I don't think there is any animosity with Garson, and why would he keep in contact with vasily kafanov?

[LalaPumpkinhead]

the guy who is selling him too small shirts

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