7 Shades of Black is almost unlistenable.

BurtSampson · 09-07-2016, 12:33 PM

It's so shrill and tries so hard to be heavy but it just sounds thin and Bobo sounds like he just woke up and he's singing about how his sister can't spell (prob cause it's really jesse in a wig)

I just distinctly remember it being the moment when I knew the album was fucked. Doomsday Clock was bad but I was like yeah but that's just the first song then 7SOB hits and you're like ugh

thomas_bland · 09-07-2016, 01:26 PM

I think they're both great.

pepper666 · 09-07-2016, 02:50 PM

great song.. really like the vibe of it...

Cool As Ice Cream · 09-07-2016, 02:51 PM

i believe i like that one too.

ilikeplanets · 09-07-2016, 03:03 PM

7 rocks of crack

TuralyonW3 · 09-07-2016, 03:22 PM

Yup, zeitgeist production is balls

FlamingGlobes · 09-07-2016, 03:26 PM

Like most of Zeitgeist, this track would've absolutely ripped with better/different production. Like imagine it being recorded in the vein of a song like Bodies. Would've translated much, much better.

freshfacedyouth · 09-07-2016, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BurtSampson

(it's really jesse in a wig)

that's messed up!

NovaFritz · 09-07-2016, 04:20 PM

I remember hearing an early live version of Bleeding the Orchid and thinking this was so bad ass and wanting to hear the studio version and then I did and was like WTF is this the same song and it was and that is the story of Zeitgeist.

run2pee · 09-07-2016, 04:45 PM

7shades kicks ass, it's just neutered on the record. the guitars are reedy and thin, the cymbals/hats have the goose pimpling swishiness of new, too tight corduroy pants. makes me wanna fart

Ram27 · 09-07-2016, 05:18 PM

Honestly ZG would be up there with the Machinas if it had the AOL sessions Doomsday Clock, live version of Pomp, and United States

teh b0lly!!1 · 09-07-2016, 05:41 PM

i still don't understand how a producer like roy thomas baker could produce such a shitty sounding record

i mean, the guy who got to record freddie mercury, one of music's greatest vocalists ever, couldn't even tell something sounded horribly, horribly wrong with zeitgeist? that's just not fair

FlamingGlobes · 09-07-2016, 05:56 PM

I don't know what's so special about that AOL session. Sounds even more lifeless than the album to my ears.

FlamingGlobes · 09-07-2016, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teh b0lly!!1

i still don't understand how a producer like roy thomas baker could produce such a shitty sounding record

i mean, the guy who got to record freddie mercury, one of music's greatest vocalists ever, couldn't even tell something sounded horribly, horribly wrong with zeitgeist? that's just not fair

I think the co-produced by Billy Corgan qualifier tells you all you need to know.

Besides, RTB only produced three songs that made the proper album and production-wise, they're probably the least offensive.

FlamingGlobes · 09-07-2016, 05:58 PM

Also, it's probably a case of a virtuoso losing his touch. Same reason George Romero and John Carpenter can't direct for shit anymore. And also why the Billy Corgan of the last decade and a half sucks.

NovaFritz · 09-07-2016, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlamingGlobes

I think the co-produced by Billy Corgan qualifier tells you all you need to know.

Besides, RTB only produced three songs that made the proper album and production-wise, they're probably the least offensive.

Yeah the bonus DVD is really misleading about RTB, seems he didn't have that much involvement at all.

FoolofaTook · 09-07-2016, 10:06 PM

The song sucks, the album sucks, SP2 sucks, you all suck, and., I believe, your mother also sucks.

themadcaplaughs · 09-07-2016, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teh b0lly!!1

i still don't understand how a producer like roy thomas baker could produce such a shitty sounding record

i mean, the guy who got to record freddie mercury, one of music's greatest vocalists ever, couldn't even tell something sounded horribly, horribly wrong with zeitgeist? that's just not fair

A producer ultimately serves the artist, and I have no doubt that the "problem" aspects of this album originated with Billy.

BurtSampson · 09-08-2016, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weasel

It sounds great. They all sound great.

lol jesus christ this guy.

T&T · 09-08-2016, 12:11 PM

she thinks lots of songs are about her.
as does courtney.

billy's got a history of dating dumb girls - so it could be about anyone.

T&T · 09-08-2016, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dade

seemed a little nutso.

she was commitable.

BurtSampson · 09-08-2016, 12:55 PM

Courtney Love is an awful guitarist and I bet their sex was disgusting.

MyOneAndOnly · 09-08-2016, 01:15 PM

She is awful guitarist and I bet the sex was dirty and good

BurtSampson · 09-08-2016, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

She is awful guitarist and I bet the sex was dirty and good

do you think he let her fart in his mouth?

FlamingGlobes · 09-08-2016, 10:48 PM

Crazy women are usually a blast in bed. Billy knows what he's doing.

T&T · 09-09-2016, 01:15 AM

how many times do you think he fucked her while she still had some other dudes semen drooling out of her ragged vag?

FlamingGlobes · 09-09-2016, 07:41 PM

reprise85 · 09-09-2016, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dade

isn't this song supposedly about that "fische" woman? that's the where the whole 'sister can't you spell?' line comes from iirc..there was also this web cam video she made from a hotel room in hawaii or someplace where she's talking about being soul mates with BC... am i crazy or did this happen?

i mean, this is true according to her... but she obviously has persistent ideas of reference so... and she also said they got married

cork_soaker · 09-09-2016, 09:34 PM

fairly certain i've succeeded in mentioning this every time this song comes up in a thread, but i remember hearing the live version first, and thinking the chorus went, "there's only one shade of black" instead of "cause i want you bad."

does it make sense? cohere with the rest of the lyrics/title? perhaps not.

is it a cooler lyric? i think yes!

cork_soaker · 09-09-2016, 09:40 PM

i do like the couplet rhyme scheme, though. feels almost sloppy, which fits the tone/theme

09-07-2016, 12:33 PM	#1
BurtSampson Apocalyptic Poster Location: Billy's Buttcrack Posts: 1,687	7 Shades of Black is almost unlistenable. It's so shrill and tries so hard to be heavy but it just sounds thin and Bobo sounds like he just woke up and he's singing about how his sister can't spell (prob cause it's really jesse in a wig) I just distinctly remember it being the moment when I knew the album was fucked. Doomsday Clock was bad but I was like yeah but that's just the first song then 7SOB hits and you're like ugh

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run2pee Minion of Satan Location: An oasis of horror in a desert of boredom Posts: 7,742	7shades kicks ass, it's just neutered on the record. the guitars are reedy and thin, the cymbals/hats have the goose pimpling swishiness of new, too tight corduroy pants. makes me wanna fart

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Ram27 dumb Location: $8.6 million embezzled funds Posts: 11,365	Honestly ZG would be up there with the Machinas if it had the AOL sessions Doomsday Clock, live version of Pomp, and United States

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teh b0lly!!1 Braindead Location: PROWLING THE BADLANDS Posts: 17,399	i still don't understand how a producer like roy thomas baker could produce such a shitty sounding record i mean, the guy who got to record freddie mercury, one of music's greatest vocalists ever, couldn't even tell something sounded horribly, horribly wrong with zeitgeist? that's just not fair

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09-09-2016, 09:34 PM	#29
cork_soaker full of longing Posts: 11,538	fairly certain i've succeeded in mentioning this every time this song comes up in a thread, but i remember hearing the live version first, and thinking the chorus went, "there's only one shade of black" instead of "cause i want you bad." does it make sense? cohere with the rest of the lyrics/title? perhaps not. is it a cooler lyric? i think yes!

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cork_soaker full of longing Posts: 11,538	i do like the couplet rhyme scheme, though. feels almost sloppy, which fits the tone/theme