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Old 03-01-2019, 04:42 PM   #1
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Default @MTV week, March 9, 2000, widescreen

Had a tape of this laying around and decided to do something with it. Because of the bizarre “cyber” theme of this appearance the video was surrounded by a bunch of “cyber” garbage and that’s what all the versions I’ve seen of these videos has. I cropped all that out and what was left was a proper 16:9 frame. Not incredible. But better?
https://youtu.be/gQaatFFZLZE

https://youtu.be/Qm-T35xMD6o

 
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Old 03-01-2019, 04:49 PM   #2
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The Music Plus (montreal quebec's french MTV) was a better recording/performance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKZL...169604C0921D37

 
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Old 03-01-2019, 04:53 PM   #3
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Did MuchMusic have Carson Daly? Did they have Dave Holmes??! I think not.

 
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Old 03-01-2019, 05:35 PM   #4
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love when you can see the other camera operators waving their cameras around or shaking them to get those wild rockin' shotz

 
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Old 03-01-2019, 05:51 PM   #5
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9th of March: Corgan announces to be glad to have Jimmy back in the band

23rd of May: Corgan announces the band breakup at the end of the year

 
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Old 03-01-2019, 06:38 PM   #6
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Thank you, Kumar, for putting the work into creating and uploading this better version fo the good of the community! Really appreciate it, bud
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Old 03-01-2019, 08:21 PM   #7
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Old 03-01-2019, 08:28 PM   #8
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They played really well here - thanks for sharing it.

 
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Old 03-01-2019, 10:01 PM   #9
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Thats awesome. I was there. Look there I am! I'm on TV!

 
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Old 03-01-2019, 10:02 PM   #10
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i wish it were better quality though - although this really is the BEST quality Ive seen > thanks for posting - I appreciate it! Ive made a donation to xyz charity in your name as a thank you.

 
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Old 03-01-2019, 10:18 PM   #11
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Cool to remember back to watching that shit on TV back in the day, but man, I never really liked the live Machina guitar sound then, and I don't really like it now.

 
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Old 03-02-2019, 07:23 AM   #12
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love when you can see the other camera operators waving their cameras around or shaking them to get those wild rockin' shotz
Holy shit that's always annoyed me about this taping. It's distracting.

 
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Old 03-02-2019, 09:40 AM   #13
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Fun Fact: those mtv morons purposely made the video quality poor to mimic dial up modem 2000 era live streaming

 
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Old 03-03-2019, 08:33 PM   #14
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Fun fact: Dave Grohl was there that day - I think he was dating Melissa at that point.


I met him there, he was nice.

 
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Old 03-03-2019, 11:58 PM   #15
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Old 03-04-2019, 09:32 AM   #16
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Man, I forgot how ugly Grohl is without the beard.

 
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Old 03-04-2019, 08:44 PM   #17
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I know some of you shit heads piss on Melissa's tone but I fucking love it. It pushes Crogan and she is the only SP bassist to push Jim's tempo, which I love as well. Fuck pocket drummers.

 
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Old 03-05-2019, 12:24 AM   #18
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I know some of you shit heads piss on Melissa's tone but I fucking love it. It pushes Crogan and she is the only SP bassist to push Jim's tempo, which I love as well. Fuck pocket drummers.
Spot on, 100%. Corgan is a moron to chose Jack Bates over xMaDMx. Seriously...... disprove that argument,you can’t.

 
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Old 03-05-2019, 09:53 AM   #19
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The Music Plus (montreal quebec's french MTV) was a better recording/performance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKZL...169604C0921D37
God, I remember burning this to a fucking VCD.

 
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Old 03-05-2019, 08:33 PM   #20
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Spot on, 100%. Corgan is a moron to chose Jack Bates over xMaDMx. Seriously...... disprove that argument,you can’t.
Probably comes down to that sweet sweet $$$

 
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Old 03-06-2019, 07:47 AM   #21
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Had a tape of this laying around and decided to do something with it. Because of the bizarre “cyber” theme of this appearance the video was surrounded by a bunch of “cyber” garbage and that’s what all the versions I’ve seen of these videos has. I cropped all that out and what was left was a proper 16:9 frame. Not incredible. But better?
https://youtu.be/gQaatFFZLZE

https://youtu.be/Qm-T35xMD6o
this must not be the original broadcast because they cut the part where i'm called up on stage to make an ass out of myself on national television.

 
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Old 03-06-2019, 03:19 PM   #22
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this must not be the original broadcast because they cut the part where i'm called up on stage to make an ass out of myself on national television.



Details!

 
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Old 03-08-2019, 10:18 AM   #23
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here's the the remainder from where OPs video cuts off. billy called me on stage and i played his guitar.

i wasn't even supposed to be in the studio. i didn't have an invite. i heard about the performance and decided to head to NYC and just wait in line, see what would happen. someone in line had a plus 1 so i got in because their friend couldn't make it.

after it ended, i was asked to stay along with the others who were invited on stage. there was a Q&A afterward with all of us and SP. it was briefly on MTV.com as a RealVideo stream. i remember seeing it in 2000, but i'm pretty sure it's lost to the MTV archives now. i've since found the original URL for the stream on the wayback machine, alas, it doesn't work.

it was an amazing experience and, ironically, it wasn't the last time just showing up (and a little luck) worked in my favor. i was able to attend letterman, smashbash, storytellers, and the final show.

i mean, i followed SP, Zwan, and BC a lot so it's not like i was an unfamiliar face to the band/crew/other fans. however, i definitely felt unwelcome among the cliques i'd see at just about every show. i think some of those fans hated that i was there, like it made them less special or some dumb shit. they sure acted that way. ��*♀️

anyway, i do have a lot stories, but mostly i just keep them to myself in real life because billy has become so embarrassing. it sucks that these experiences, so integral and important to my childhood and early adult life, have become so tarnished.

whatever, it was cool at the time.

 
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Old 03-08-2019, 05:42 PM   #24
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I literally gasped when I could make out what you were wearing

Talk a little about your thought process in getting dressed that morning

 
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Old 03-10-2019, 12:51 AM   #25
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Spot on, 100%. Corgan is a moron to chose Jack Bates over xMaDMx. Seriously...... disprove that argument,you can’t.
doubt he "chose" jack bates "over" madm. 100000% she was not interested.

 
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Old 03-11-2019, 12:27 AM   #26
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this must not be the original broadcast because they cut the part where i'm called up on stage to make an ass out of myself on national television.
Oh shit, hi. This was taped off the initial east coast broadcast, so maybe they let it ride out on the west coast? I can’t remember. Either way I was actually just thinking about you when I was uploading this because I totally remember you getting up there. So I must have seen it somewhere. I just convinced myself it must have been another performance. I remember you getting online shortly afterwards and being like “I was that kid. I was trying to play Cherub Rock.” In any event, I’m glad you found this thread.

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Old 03-11-2019, 01:58 AM   #27
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Oh shit, hi. This was taped off the initial east coast broadcast, so maybe they let it ride out on the west coast? I can’t remember. Either way I was actually just thinking about you when I was uploading this because I totally remember you getting up there. So I must have seen it somewhere. I just convinced myself it must have been another performance. I remember you getting online shortly afterwards and being like “I was that kid. I was trying to play Cherub Rock.” In any event, I’m glad you found this thread.

i don't fully understand what's going on here, but i LIKE it!!

 
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Old 03-11-2019, 11:16 AM   #28
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doubt he "chose" jack bates "over" madm. 100000% she was not interested.
didn't she say something about being open to it

maybe that was just Zeit era

after which i'm sure said openings were firmly closed!

 
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I literally gasped when I could make out what you were wearing

Talk a little about your thought process in getting dressed that morning
didn't really have a thought process, just kind of wore that shirt as my "costume" to every SP/Zwan/BC related thing i went to. pretty cringeworthy to think about now, but yeah, that's what it was.

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Oh shit, hi. This was taped off the initial east coast broadcast, so maybe they let it ride out on the west coast? I can’t remember. Either way I was actually just thinking about you when I was uploading this because I totally remember you getting up there. So I must have seen it somewhere. I just convinced myself it must have been another performance. I remember you getting online shortly afterwards and being like “I was that kid. I was trying to play Cherub Rock.” In any event, I’m glad you found this thread.
if i recall, the live broadcast was longer. i live on the east coast and i set my VCR to record at the time it was supposed to air and it definitely had the extended outro. when i tried to record subsequent airings for better quality, they always cut it short. but yeah, i was trying to play cherub rock... trying.

so happy that a full recording of that finally surfaced a few years ago.

still looking for a rip of an online exclusive Q&A with SP and fans after the show. it used to be on MTV.com (The Smashing Pumpkins pull kids on stage in the MTV studio
From @MTV Week), but obviously, that RealVideo stream doesn't work anymore. probably lost forever... might be for the best though.

 
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Young B0lly,

 
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