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Old 01-15-2019, 08:18 PM   #1
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Angry Let me tell all you worthless hacks something (Adore appreciation thread NO HATERZ)

It's not Adore that's aged poorly.

It's YOU, ya fucking losers!
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:20 PM   #2
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:22 PM   #3
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Adore is really good.

 
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:24 PM   #4
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:24 PM   #5
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songs on Adore that score 10/10

To Sheila
Daphne Descends
Once Upon A Time
Crestfallen
Behold! The Nightmare
For Martha
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:25 PM   #6
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songs on Adore that score below 7/10:

Annie Dog
Appels and Oranjes

 
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:27 PM   #7
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I like Annie Dog and don't like Crestfallen

well Crestfallen is pretty good

there is something clunky about it though does anyone know what I mean, it's meandering

 
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:32 PM   #8
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Adore would be perfect if all the lame electronic songs got dropped (ava adore, pug) or reworked into acoutic ballads (perfect, nitemare, tear) and if lmgtwty, czarina, and once in a while were added. that shit would of been better than mcis. just imagine:

To Sheila
Czarina
Perfect
LMGTWTY
Daphne Descends
Crestfallen
Tear
Once in a While
Dusty
Nitemare
Shame
For Martha
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A dark, subdued, haunting album. Yes!

 
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:33 PM   #9
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I like Annie Dog and don't like Crestfallen

well Crestfallen is pretty good

there is something clunky about it though does anyone know what I mean, it's meandering
you can like whatever you want as long as you aren't here to be a hater. I don't hate Annie Dog, I just think it's the weakest track on the album.

Crestfallen feels light and airy to me, like a dream. I can see how a lot of these songs came from taking MDMA and mushrooms in Courtney Love's hot tub

 
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:34 PM   #10
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I love Crestfallen!

 
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:35 PM   #11
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Adore would be perfect if all the lame electronic songs got dropped (ava adore, pug) or reworked into acoutic ballads (perfect, nitemare, tear) and if lmgtwty, czarina, and once in a while were added. that shit would of been better than mcis. just imagine:

To Sheila
Czarina
Perfect
LMGTWTY
Daphne Descends
Crestfallen
Tear
Once in a While
Dusty
Nitemare
Shame
For Martha
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A dark, subdued, haunting album. Yes!
Adore wouldn't be right without the electronic elements. They are as much a central part of the album as the acoustic or piano aspect. Czarina is nice but I think it's a lesser song than most on Adore, as is Once in Awhile. They just don't have the emotional heaviness that defines the album. LMGTWTY... well I dunno if this is popular or unpopular, but I honestly think the Adore era version sucks.

The only way to improve the album from my perspective would be to cut a few of the weaker songs to make it slightly more concise. It just drags a bit too long by the time you get to the end. But in actuality, it would be very difficult for me to imagine Adore without even Annie Dog.

 
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:36 PM   #12
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Annie Dog is one of the best tracks on Adore, if not the best

Mostly because it doesnít suffer from shitty and now outdated production

Adore was the first album where I listened and though ehhhh something is not quite right here

When it came out, I was listening to Airís Moon Safari and PJ Harveyís Is This Desire? quite a lot, and both of those are quite exquisitely produced, and made Adore sound like contrived and out of date trash, except for Annie Dog

 
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:39 PM   #13
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I don't get the production complaints whatsoever. Adore is gorgeous and lush. The production washes over you like a bitter winter wind, whistling down from the trees. The separation is superb, the mix is phenomenal, the instrumentation on most of the songs is impeccable. And on top of all that, it's by far the best produced Billy's voice has ever been. Just stunningly beautiful production.

Adore production > MCIS production, and I say that in 100% seriousness. MCIS was fucked up until the remaster.

 
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:41 PM   #14
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I guess in isolation from other music of that time, it can be heard that way, but as someone who was 18 in 1998, at that time, with things like Mezzanine and OK Computer in the pop charts, Adore sounded like shit to me, I dunno what to tell you :/

 
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:44 PM   #15
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There was so much music that was mind blowing from the first listen that it was too much to ask, to have to crane your brain this way or that to appreciate Adore as lush rather than a cheesy poor imitation of early led zep mixed with outtakes from the pet shop boys

 
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:47 PM   #16
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imitation of early led zep
what the fuck are you smoking

 
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:48 PM   #17
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And then buried within it there was respite from all the poor taste, a raw glimpse of the loneliness and hollow victory of fame, the ability to see those around you for who they really are, so sad and used up now that theyíre approaching 30 and beyond and no longer have the glow of youth

Zevon-esque bard special, and all left alone from the Marty Highschoolerís first try with Fruityloops

 
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:49 PM   #18
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something like Pug feels like the music B Corg was always meant to make

I think Adore doesn't sound like other albums of its time

I've listened to Massive Attack, they're not even a comparable kind of music to what's on Adore

 
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Yeah in the sense of storytelling and theatrics and guitar solos that nobody was really asking for, I dunno, thatís just what springs to mind tmwhen I think of how I heard it then. Specifically early led zep crossed with pet shop boys outtakes = an unholy union

 
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:52 PM   #20
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I've said this so many times also, but from a songwriting and guitar perspective, Adore is a very minor departure from any of Bill's previous music. Most of what changed was the aesthetic and the sonic atmosphere. Instead of sitting in the backseat, Robert Smith's essence got to ride shotgun this time.

 
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:53 PM   #21
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The mono mix of Adore ownz.

 
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:54 PM   #22
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Yeah in the sense of storytelling and theatrics and guitar solos that nobody was really asking for, I dunno, thatís just what springs to mind tmwhen I think of how I heard it then. Specifically early led zep crossed with pet shop boys outtakes = an unholy union
You heard multiple guitar solos on Adore? Not sure we're listening to the same Adore.

 
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Massive Attack isnít comparable music, but Mezzanine came out that same year, so in terms of production, I listened to Adore in amongst other albums that sounded a lot better

 
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You heard multiple guitar solos on Adore? Not sure we're listening to the same Adore.
I guess the abomination on For Martha tricked my mind into thinking there were a lot, because that one epic turd = 5 or 6 normal bad guitar solos, I dunno

 
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Massive Attack isn’t comparable music, but Mezzanine came out that same year, so in terms of production, I listened to Adore in amongst other albums that sounded a lot better
I suppose

just think it's weird to compare a trip hop album to a rock album in terms of what sounds better in production

because what you're looking for from the production is ideally different

 
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I think we all just have PTSD from Adore. It really was Billy’s first instance of being woefully out of step with the public and his fans. And we all know where that journey led him.......

 
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taking MDMA and mushrooms in Courtney Love's hot tub
oh god, there's an image I didn't wanna imagine

 
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his vocals do sound very good on Adore and they don't sound like he's leaning on the nasal or various tricks

what's up with that

 
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I think we all just have PTSD from Adore. It really was Billy’s first instance of being woefully out of step with the public and his fans. And we all know where that journey led him.......
did you really want Billy to always give you what you want though

who's the artist here?

seems the real problem is after Adore he became super hurt it wasn't as well received by jackass buttrock fans who would be listening to Limp Bizkit by the end of the 90's or whatever else dumb fad

Machina was good but it was the start of being obsessed with capturing the MCIS level of fandom again

 
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