Summer 2019 tour setlist seriously?

[FoolofaTook]

[Shadaloo]

Originally Posted by NovaFritz

Sort of sad they chose this approach to BTBT when they could have done a MII or Arizing version...
Then again, maybe it was cool but the available audio is bad. Just seems really slow.

Yeah, I'm kind of surprised they went with the MI version. Figured if we ever heard it again live it'd be Arising.

He's probably angling for what he thinks most people remember.

[T&T]

FYI guys, according to the torono SUN interview, billy considers these set-lists to be proficient.

Is this the best incarnation of the Pumpkins we’re seeing live?
BC: I think musically right now, we’re very proficient.

[fuzzyroes]

Lol what the hell's Cluckett talking about? Smash Mouths Monkees cover came out after Walking On The Sun and All-Star. It didn't "skyrocket" them to success haha

[smashingjj]

That's what i mean. You didn't even know that the drum vid of Jimmy existed. I am getting tired of this. This will be my last reply. Fuck this shit. You can all thank people like houseofglass. No more leaks from me.

Admins: Please delete my account.

[FoolofaTook]

You heard him, Patj264! Get on it!

[kevinjboconnor]

I saw the SP Darien Lake show. The only song I was really into was Blue Skies Bring Tears.

The rest of the setlist if kind of garbage. The band sounded "OK"

They gave Jeff too many solos and I could barely tell that James was in the band.

[Slurpee]

Originally Posted by patj825

This is a Summer tour, so naturally it will have more hits. If you look at the 17 songs they played last nights, it's about half hits/half others + a cover. And not a bad mix in my opinion. Any show with Superchrist, Blue Skies Bring Tears & Aeroplane Flies High sounds great to me.

Today
Zero
Eye
Bullet With Butterfly Wings
Disarm
Ava Adore
1979
Tonight, Tonight
Cherub Rock

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Solara
Knights of Malta
Superchrist
Tiberius
G.L.O.W.
Fire and Rain
Blue Skies Bring Tears
Aeroplane Flies High

Took me a while, but I figured out what bugs me about this setlist and the idea that it must have the hits. That approach, while typical for Billy, ignores the best songs of the Pumpkins. We all know what those are, the ones that are always at the top of fan polls:

Muzzle, Drown, Starla, Mayo, Ruby, Porcelina, Soma, Geek, By Starlight, Hummer, Pug, Behold, SIYL, and yes, TAFH. I could go on but I might get a little more controversial.

They played many of these on the 2018 tour. And it was the best in many many years. Not a coincidence. The Pumpkins' biggest strength is this amazing array of powerful songs that anchor their albums, not their radio hits. The latter was a vehicle for the former, in the minds of the fans who want to pay $$$ over and over again for these shows.

To me, those epic, core Pumpkins songs are the "real" hits, and to play sets that ignore them, and thus neglect the musical legacy of the band in favor of its commercial history, is madness. That's why I'm not inspired at all.

[T&T]

Originally Posted by Slurpee

Muzzle, Drown, Starla, Mayo, Ruby, Porcelina, Soma, Geek, By Starlight, Hummer, Pug, Behold, SIYL, and yes, TAFH.

These are the deep cuts billy is saving for the deep cut 500$ ticket shows.

[Ram27]

Hey, Billy I know you're reading this.

Fuck you.

It wasn't until earlier today, after reading this thread, I really took a step back in perspective looking at those insta stories. This fucking millionaire rockstar is bitching on a fucking instagram story that fans need to pay more for tickets so he can strap on his fucking favorite Gish guitar and play Tristessa. Go fuck yourself. Maybe Everett True was right.

Originally Posted by Everett True, Melody Maker, September 4th, 1993

Let’s examine the evidence. What do we know about the Pumps? Hmmmm. That they’re sensitive, that the complacent, constipated and pasty-faced Billy Corgan has the soul of a poet. Right. Maybe he should stick to poetry. Anything, rather than regale us with more of his dreadfully over-expressive, chest-clutching falsetto and beefy register.

Sensitive? Fuck! The first five minutes into the set tonight (the second of three nights in an “intimate” setting, ostensibly to reward their fans – more obviously, to be filmed for future use on MTV) are sick-making in extremis. A local radio jock introduces the band to screaming, while Billy looks more smug than I’ve ever seen smug before. Sensitive? Fuck! That would explain why their major label wanted the Pumps to release a record on an “indie” before the real “push” – anything to help that extra-sensitive credibility, right? There’s nothing like honesty, eh, Billy?

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by Ram27

Hey, Billy I know you're reading this.

Fuck you.

It wasn't until earlier today, after reading this thread, I really took a step back in perspective looking at those insta stories. This fucking millionaire rockstar is bitching on a fucking instagram story that fans need to pay more for tickets so he can strap on his fucking favorite Gish guitar and play Tristessa. Go fuck yourself. Maybe Everett True was right.

Billy's truly just an outspoken jack-ass. That's why I liked when he was going off on tangents on shows like Alex Jones, it was Billy in a moment of truth, expressing his authentic self.

Even Courtney Love once said, Billy's truly just a grumpy man.

[croPUMPKINS]

could never understand why some of the best songs have been ditched for many tours now -

-Gossamer, Tear, Once upon a time, Beautiful...

Hell, Zeitgeist had some great tunes that have been played rarely or never since the tour -

Doomsday, Starz, Tarantula, USA...

Gossamer might be the greatest tune he has written

[smashingjj]

NUKE CROATIA

[FoolofaTook]

WORLDS BIGGEST SARMA!!!

THANKS YOU VARAZDIN

[FoolofaTook]

Originally Posted by croPUMPKINS

Zeitgeist had some great tunes . . .

Doomsday, Starz, Tarantula, USA...

I have made note of this and it will not be good for you when the GSGE (Greater Serbian Galactic Empire) ascends unto dominion and glory.

[ninsp]

Tarantula is a great song
Fuck you Billy

[croPUMPKINS]

seeeeeriously...2007/2008 was probably the best era setlist in SP history.
Ztgeist era songs, Adore, MCIS, SD era. Stand inside your love..
Long gigs, setlist kept changing.

Good times/bootlegs

[enthusaroo]

Originally Posted by croPUMPKINS

seeeeeriously...2007/2008 was probably the best era setlist in SP history.
Ztgeist era songs, Adore, MCIS, SD era. Stand inside your love..
Long gigs, setlist kept changing.

Good times/bootlegs

Man, that was 12 years ago.. it's all been face first downhill since then for Billy co.