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Old 06-28-2015, 03:17 AM   #1
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Default Cardinal Rule (new song)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO6C...outu.be&t=6346


Full show:

Pantages Theater, Minneapolis, MN
June 25, 2015



FLAC link (Cardinal Rule):
http://s000.tinyupload.com/download....58667153146233

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Old 06-28-2015, 03:37 AM   #2
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thanks for posting this! what is the name of the song they start playing @ 22:30 ?
"Prairie Song"

Here's the setlist:
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/the-sm...-73c95e55.html

 
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Old 06-28-2015, 05:37 AM   #3
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Cardinal Rule is a great song.
It reminds me of Djali Zwan/Chicago Songs.

 
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Old 06-28-2015, 09:31 AM   #4
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I really like the new song.... the problem is how they recorded/produced it...

 
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Old 06-28-2015, 09:43 AM   #5
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... the problem is how they recorded/produced it...
you heard the final album b-side mix or?

 
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Old 06-28-2015, 09:46 AM   #6
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No, I didn't... but I heard all the albums he recorded/produced since Adore....

 
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Old 06-28-2015, 09:52 AM   #7
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ahaha okay, predicting the verdict.

well could be another Burnt-Orange Black - and we'll never hear a studio version
(until the 2020 re-issue cat mix.)

 
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Old 06-28-2015, 10:03 AM   #8
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And that really annoys me, that song got a very positive answer from the public. He's been doing that for a long time now... it's like he goes online and check all the fan faves and never record them. Gossamer? As Rome Burns? Circular Change? Make it Happen? Emerald Green? All those Djali Zwan songs... Jaysus! It feels like he is dumbing down his songs trying to reach some kind of popular success.

 
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Old 06-28-2015, 10:13 AM   #9
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I find it funny at this point. it's a running joke.

"hey the crowd loved dream-machine? ahahha, let's leave that one out.
they loved burnt-orange-black? out! cardinal rule, too? hehehehe, leave that one out, too."

hilarious, really.

 
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Old 06-28-2015, 10:40 AM   #10
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yes, whenever Billy premieres a "new song" live nowadays, I just assume we'll never get to hear a recorded version of it.

 
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Old 06-28-2015, 11:55 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by amoergosum View Post
Direct link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO6C...outu.be&t=6346


Full show:

Pantages Theater, Minneapolis, MN
June 25, 2015



FLAC link (Cardinal Rule):
http://s000.tinyupload.com/download....58667153146233
Damn, they cut out the 'thank James Iha' part after Mayonnaise

But yeah Cardinal Rule sounds really good. The lyrics have a real summery quality like the Djali Zwan songs

 
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Old 06-28-2015, 01:02 PM   #12
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sounds great!

 
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Old 06-28-2015, 04:16 PM   #13
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But yeah Cardinal Rule sounds really good. The lyrics have a real summery quality like the Djali Zwan songs
Are you able to transcribe them? I only got the main line "come find me, come find me summer".

 
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Old 06-28-2015, 09:13 PM   #14
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One of the best shows since 2007.

 
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Old 06-28-2015, 09:58 PM   #15
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I only got the main line "come find me, come find me summer".
yea I fail, too. anyone?




half a world of winter light
half a world of summer
but I don't know what to g(r)o(w)? for right now
?
come find me
come find me, summer
x2

half a world of bliss /this?
is half a world of you
you say I'm ?
it's true
but I say every ?
is you
won't you

? reaching out to someone
half a world's next to you
don't you know the reasons for such heartache
was you

come find me, summer
come find me


 
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Old 06-28-2015, 11:05 PM   #16
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half a world of winter light
half a world of summer
but I don't know what to g(r)o(w)? for right now
my love is strange
come find me
come find me, summer
x2

half a world of bliss /this?
is half a world of you
you say I'm strange
it's true
but I say every lover that's strange
is you
won't you

lover reaching out to someone
half a world's next to you
don't you know the reasons for such heartache
was you

come find me, summer
come find me

filled the blanks

 
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Old 06-28-2015, 11:27 PM   #17
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Ha he's really beating that "love is strange" thing to death isn't he

 
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Old 06-29-2015, 01:50 PM   #18
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half a world of winter light
half a world of summer
but I don't know what to g(r)o(w)? for right now / but I know but _____ right now
my love is strange / but you know my ______ (summer?)
come find me
come find me, summer
x2

half a world of bliss /this?
is half a world of you
you say I'm strange / you'll say every _____ (___ them all) is true
but I say every lover that's strange / but I say every _____ them most
is you
won't you?

lover reaching out to someone / (a butterfly) reaching out to someone
half a world's next to you / half a world is none next to you
don't you know the reasons for such heartache
was you

come find me, summer
come find me
That's what I can actually hear.

 
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Old 06-30-2015, 02:32 PM   #19
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Good performance. Billy needs to start releasing soundboard quality recordings of shows like this, digitally if nothing else.

I'd slap down £7.99 on iTunes for this no problem, there are enough fans I'm sure he'd make a fast buck.

 
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Old 06-30-2015, 03:38 PM   #20
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Old 07-12-2015, 01:37 PM   #21
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Old 07-12-2015, 02:01 PM   #22
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Yeah that's really really nice. No way it's going on the album.

It reminds me of the acoustic Zwan stuff.

I'd love to hear Jimmy jazz it up a bit too

 
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half a world of winter light
half a world of summer
but I don't know what's wrong from right now
cause you don't know my summer
come find me
come find me, summer
come find me
come find me, summer

half a world of bliss
is half a world of you
you say everything you want is true
well i say everything i want is you
want you

ooh ooh ooh oh oh
ooh ooh ooh oh oh
ooh ooh ooh oh oh

like a butterfly i'm reaching out to someone
half a world is now next to you
don't you know the reasons for such heartache were true

come find me, summer
come find me
come find me, summer
come find me
come find me, summer

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Old 07-12-2015, 02:36 PM   #24
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Yeah that's really really nice. No way it's going on the album.
guess another song would have to go down for it. can't be that the teargarden cylce ends up with 45 songs - that would be numerology/tarot card blasphemy!

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Yeah that's really really nice. No way it's going on the album.
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guess another song would have to go down for it. can't be that the teargarden cylce ends up with 45 songs - that would be numerology/tarot card blasphemy!


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Old 07-13-2015, 01:08 AM   #26
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Billy (latest Periscope clip):
"I think Cardinal Rule is one of the best songs I've ever written..."

 
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Old 07-13-2015, 01:55 AM   #27
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blatantly untrue, but it's a nice sounding song. he needs to sing it better, though. his current singing style is not doing it any justice and i know he's capable of going back to his older voice if he really tried.

 
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Old 07-13-2015, 02:03 AM   #28
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probably, but he probably doesn't have much stamina in his voice anymore. the less strain he puts on it the better- especially for a tour that just started.

 
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Old 07-13-2015, 05:38 AM   #30
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Billy (latest Periscope clip):
"I think Cardinal Rule is one of the best songs I've ever written..."
why would he leave one of the "best songs he's ever written" off the album? weirdo

 
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